I'm with you on this. It's crap and if I see it I will remove as much as I can from it. Sheer lazy farming

It is becoming a big problem. I suspect some rather prominent people are using some variation of this for a while now.

Yes, I do too. What I think they do is put a prompt in then tweak the text of the results so it looks slightly less AI.

It is still quite obvious to see as these people are invariably lazy as well as not hugely bright :0D

I am willing to adjust rewards just on the basis of suspicion, because the posts I am thinking about are grossly over-rewarded anyways. I don't need any other reason usually.

Quite rightly too, it's not as if they would admit it. Or if they did it would be worth done day caveat that they used it as a tool and only took bits of it or some such tosh.

I"ve heard of 'big name accounts' doing this, and I'd sure like to know who - I'm soooo curious!!!!!!

Hahaha, they are clever but you can spot em if you go a looking hard enough. ;O)

And if you're literate 😂

If a post is not very formatted but perfectly written and makes very few personal statements, that is a red flag for sure.

Makes me wonder more and more if we as a community should have a digital ID to verify us. No KYC or something like that. A novel digital Hive-based ID to create deeper trust.

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I think I saw livinguktaiwan write something similar to this at the end of last year just before the holidays.

In my opinion, it’s easier to identify original works since content written from the lives or experiences of others can not be AI written and so have lesser chances of being spun by AI or anything like that.

intuitively it is easy enough to identify still, but that is only because the user haven't spend enough time and effort into it. There is a potential that it can get worse rather quickly

Makes sense. People who will spend a bit more time polishing up the AI crap to make it look less AI might be more likely to evade detection.

Yeah, 100% behind that. A couple of thoughts of which I'm not so sure.

What do you think of smart curation bots who leave an AI comment instant of what we are used to right now with !LOL or !BEER

What to do with AI writing tools, I have a strong idea that those will be as comments as word correction pretty soonish and they will phrase/rephrase for us. Shouldn't we endorse those to increase the level of written content?

AI Pictures & AI Art seem uncopyrightable as intellectual property. Now people claim they modified the left cheek and now it's their original art, well I find it difficult to argue, but of course, The Alien Art Hive Community is doing that for years already. Any thoughts about those?

My last thought would be, that I wanted to see an AI Dev Community popping up on Hive for a long time already. Most of that ppl aren't Software developers but rather run a rented server or have a potent system to play with and add some scripts on a shell. It should be fine for them to share their progress under the correct taggings.

AI-enhanced or completely AI written Content has been on the Chain for more than a year at least. When I started calling out accounts, none seemed to care. In my opinion, the Downvote and Reputation system "as a system" has miserable failed us, but there will be AI Content Attacks on Hive and we might want to get in a position to see them coming and use the tools we have.

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lots of questions here, and if I do justice to all of them properly that will be several posts, but let me try. This is my personal opinion obviously:

1. Curation bot comments: I don't like them. I think they are spammy and they make my contents comment section ugly. That said, I don't vote them. Since hive is decentralized I can't control them either. So I have decided not to care.

2. I am against AI to assist text writing in general as they are not original

3. Art is a difficult subject. As you have said AI art is "uncopyrightable as intellectual property". This has been decided. So people can use it, even without citation, and there is nothing wrong or unlawful about it. Again, to be it is all about reward, do I vote such a post that only has AI art in it. I don't. If it is mixed with some original content, depending on content I might. I often do.

4. I am aware of AI developers. At hive, as a content generation tool I personally do not support them

I will not further inquire, since you've been forthcoming and answered all of my questions.

Ha, we're at the front line, aren't we? We're going to find out first if and how it's possible to fend off AI 'attacks'.

I don't like them. I think they are spammy and they make my contents comment section ugly.

My opinion is:

It let's me track if someone is misusing curation project that are under my management. We are building a better alternative like tipu but till then spamming comments looks like the option to track. (Your post has been curated by "curator name")

Example:

25 people can vote from an account then how to track who voted what? Who broke the set standards?

Also, we already have a solution to "click to reveal" for comment curations. Don't seem like high priority. Personally IU, Discovery-it etc comments are muted by me.

> Shouldn't we endorse those to increase the level of written content?

Hive is about people, and stories - not how good they are at grammar.

> When I started calling out accounts, none seemed to care.

I do! And would have, had I seen it. IN my community, I'm quick to mute anyone who isn't writing original content.

Hive is Blockchain, the Hive community is about a bunch of things. Original Content OCD Style is the most significant part looking back? Not sure.

The most significant parts are the communities themselves and Splinterlands so far. Meanwhile, the communities are 98% of the time in Discord.

Just giving you a reality check here. We're all part of these ideas surrounding Hive. People and their stories shared in an old-school blog format are one of those.

I'm open to arguments, representing my very subjective pov.

> Meanwhile, the communities are 98% of the time in Discord.

Plenty don't do Discord. Plenty. Or, they use it minimally to attend to admin matters. Used to use I all the time and run a massive community there. I don't anymore and avoid it like plague. Many believe Discord is a waste of time and we should be on chain. Threads is a good part of making that happen. I hope.

Interesting stat, 98 percent. Where did you pull that from?

Speak to any curator on Hive, who form a massive part of how content is supported and rewarded here, and they'll tell you original content is everything. Gaming and other ways to earn on the Blockchain are separate from blogging. Of course OC blogging is only one aspect of HIVE, but that's the part curators of blogging content are concerned with here.

I'm not sure what you mean otherwise. What are you trying to say here?

I'm not anti AI. Just anti it being abused to milk the system.

What I'm saying is:

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The Hive Blockchain is not a webapp, what web2 access point are you using for these comments? PeakD?

Here's the latest post of dalz:
https://peakd.com/hive/@dalz.shorts/comments-on-hive-are-up-durning-a-bear-market That's a lot of comments, I can't do the footwork and compare it to all the Discord channels in action. It's very unlikely that 98% is anywhere close. For some very active Hive Discord users, it's closer to 99.9% and for people such as you, it's the other way around.

Fair is fair, do Hivers exchange 35 million Messages per Month in Discord to create the 98% ratio? That means 13.5 Messages per Second across all the Discord Channels. Wow, well, it's not impossible but highly unlikely, very very unlikely.

Oh so you are saying a lot of a activity isn't actually blogging? Sorry, having trouble understanding what your point is. Yes, that's true of course.

Yes, Peakd.

Sorry I'm struggling to see how this relates to reward pool abuse by using AI to write majority of blog. My bad.

Yeah exactly. Money can always be broken down to trust. Hive Value = Trust in Hive. So the way to interact via Blog was obviously the first entry point. But there's more to it.

It's obvious to me that if the usage of AI helps users to strengthen their bonds and interactivity, the community will become stronger and the Hive Coin Value will therefore rise. That's me and I is only subjective, but the argument against AI-improved content feels to me like a Disney Movie - but the animals can't speak to each other. A chat room full of people from across the world and the admin turns out the auto-translate to English, because of maybe valid reasons. Instagram deleting all Filters for Human Portraits, because it's inauthentic. Do we sacrifice to the holy lamp or are we still cooking?

I can't answer that yet, also I don't have to, because I'm not a community leader. Different Communities will take different paths and in two years, we will be able to compare by looking at objective truth. That's part of the human experience, the Future is speculation, and the present is a very thin layer tainted with subjectiveness, the truth can only be found in the past.

I'll get back to this later - going for surf to clear head after hot night.

Nice, have fun!

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There is no objectivity in the past, either. By nature, we see the world, present and future and past, via a social and cultural lens.

I understand you are trying to make it clear that any view is a personal and subjective one, that's clear, but it obfuscates your actual point, which appears to be that we can't make blanket rules about AI without consideration of broader implications and nuances of AI use, which is also a given, and something curators and community leaders are also well aware of.

However, the nuances aren't the issue. The purposeful, dishonest, blatant use of AI to write content with clear intent of gaining rewards is.

Most curators believe that if that's the kind of person you are, there is no place for you on Hive. This helps protect the integrity of the chain, as we don't want outside users looking at Hive and saying 'oh it's all AI content' just as we have tried for years to curb shit posts and plagiarism for same reason.

I will not allow myself to go that definite, because I don't bear any responsibility but for myself.

A helpful mind game would be to make the transfer to video and audio. Would I want to curate audio and video content that is mostly AI generated? No. Therefore I pledge to never watch a Marvel Movie again (or at least not pay for it). Funny enough that is where I am with those anyway :D

Would I watch South Park if it were completely an AI product, BUT with the exact same content? Questions.

I think it's very far-sighted by Azircon to state his stance, that is what I would expect every Community leader to do, please. And if people break those barriers right in his face, well, get fluffed.

Btw. my debate opinion is very open to AI tools, while personally, I think it's a bad idea to use them. If I want rotten fish, I'll catch one and put em into the sun myself. What's the purpose of publishing AI content if not harvesting unearned yield? So don't make me ruler over Curation Land. I'd nuke the living hell out of people and empty the chain in six days. xD

The abuse part is not what has to be discussed, the very definition of abuse has to be adjusted. From word correction by Grammarly to AI rephrasing your written Blogpost down to getting full posts from Bing AI and just rearranging for personal preferences. What is abusive and how can we detect and fight it?

Do we all want to get rid of malicious actors who try to abuse us? Hell yeah.

I think the curators are pretty clear on what AI abuse is. I've been talking to them in Discord to confirm 😂😂😂

It's actually more black and white than you think.

Grammarly isn't really the issue.

Case in point. Guy write a post about how to grow lettuce. Used AI photos of lettuce, non attributed. I checked by putting 'how to grow lettuce' in chat gpt. Almost same.

Not original human content.

Guy writes a post about how to grow onions (are you seeing a theme here?). I argue with him for ages about the fact it's AI. No, he says, I used Grammarly. Eventually he admits he used AI but it was his idea. What part? The part where he put 'how to grow onions' in ChatGPT. Sigh.

Curators have to make decisions and take action and I hope they do! Lukestokes, (@)lukestokes on Chain, has been writing about this for years already. I feel like I'm making his argument here.

A being that does work on the internet has a right to exist, doesn't it? In the medium run, we will have AIs generating impossible amounts of content and probably replacing search engines from daily life - while still abiding by a human will.

In the long run, they will go even further and may very well become valid parts of human society / Hive communities. So from here to there, that's maybe two years? Freaky, brace yourself.

I'm braced. But when that happens, I don't see any point in being here at all.

Again, and I am trying to make this clear, there's a difference between AI content pretending to be human and something that is expressly AI. If I vote on a post and think it's human and learn it's not, I feel deceived. If I use a search engine I know is AI, I'm not.

I'm here on Hive for the humans.

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I agree 100%. I don't like AI writing or art...lazy, uncreative, unimaginative and farmy.

We got to keep at it. There are multiple high rep individuals consistently doing this for reward farming.

Yep, it's reasonably easy to spot. I don't think any of us should be accepting of it though, it's misrepresentation.

We need an 'Ai Watchers' comment on them, like Hive Watchers. I'd really like to know who these accounts are. Once, okay. After a warnin g - nooooo.

Smart move otherwise it's going to turn into a crazy spam fest of junk with no one interacting sadly.

As "smart" as people think ChatGPT is it's actully super stupid it's just good at pulling older content from 2021 or later and rehashing it out with filter words etc. The only thing impressive about it is the speed at which it can do it. Besides that it's dumb AF

It's good that it has been introduced. Now, hopefully, people will think twice before casting their blind vote. It would've been a better practice to get to know the author/blogger a bit better first anyway IMO.

As you know very well, there are many AI text (especially low quality AI texts) floating around hive for a while. It is our collective duty to identify them and have a direct conversation.

Well, I don't know if it is many, but I have seen some that made me wonder if this was actually written by the person. The contrast between person and story was too big -from my gut feeling-. But then again, and this is what makes it difficult to accuse someone for copy/pasting AI generated text, if you're running a business, you probably have been thinking about creating (or you already have) a tone of voice for your business. For example, my blog posts on @xposed, they are in a total different writing style than my personal stuff, but when I write about more "important" things, I can spend a lot of time on the wording. And when I start talking, I probably trip over a few words because my mouth can't keep up.

I have been testing a AI-text generator detector out. Surprisingly, its detection is not as accurate as you may think, which sucks ass, as it can point fingers in the wrong direction (and the irony? it can be used to create text to fly under the radar). Just more proof that AI is not to be trusted without DYOR.

We're dealing with people whose native language isn't English (mine isn't either for example), it's probably pretty easy for people to use AI generated text to translate something from their language in another, right? The stupid thing is, copyright can only be given to -humans- and not AI, because it isn't human (lol).

One way to kill users who publish AI generated texts, is to do a duty as curators: get to know the author first before casting big votes. It takes a long time to create an authentic personality on Hive. AI and bots don't stand a chance against authentic behavior. And if we're 100% sure something is AI generated, nuke them.

We do what we can....there will always be things which is uncertain and on the cusp.......but there are plenty of things that are 100% certain. We nuke them.

Found one.

https://peakd.com/@tornad

Nuked

@rubencress can I ask which AI detector you are using? Thanks (PS it's for detecting it in my community) x

>get to know the author first before casting big votes.

That's what I've been thinking myself for some time now. Unfortunately, it's not very encouraging to newcomers. On one hand we want to encourage people to stick around, but because of so many bad players it's hard to trust anyone new...

HIVE is ours and any action to protect our community is welcomed.

I think it is an excellent decision, those AI's have only been created to make humans lazier and less creative (my humble opinion, don't be offended). I think they could be used, but in other ways, other than writing posts or creating images to tokenize them, etc. I really applaud this decision. Although I imagine that there will be many who will not listen and well, I guess that's where the great team of #hivewatchers will come in to avoid curating such publications. Cheers, thanks for your post, very informative.

You are right. It's basically being a freerider in a group assignment. I think most people wouldn't support AI generated text content but this also depends on whether you can tell if it was generated by AI which we might not be able to tell if the Ai was told to make it look like a real person did it? As for the ai generated images I also gree with you there, I think the images are ok as long as they back it up with their own words or maybe used their own drawing originally and AI generated from that ~.

I have a friend who claims he's interested in supporting my work. I think he means well, but every now and again, he says strange things.

He suggests I use AI generated content to "automate" my writing process. I can share more, then earn more, for less of my time...

Maybe because he's a creator, he just doesn't get it. I do it for the art- the respect and the rewards are just consequential of a job well done.

I don't think he'd become a supporter of mine here just yet, but I won't count him out. Glad to know people still value good effort.

Tell your 'friend' that is a sure way to destroy a hive account

Ha. Good thing he probably won’t make one. That’s why I wanna get him to delegate. He’s just not the creatin’ type

The AI is a tool very Useful, but I think that not for Supplant human creativity, or turn it into a cane that does our job at all times.
I am agree with the AI 100 cus it is the future, but always using moderately and with responsibly.

The AI is a tool very Useful, but I think that not for Supplant human creativity, or turn it into a cane that does our job at all times.
I am agree with the AI 100 cus it is the future, but always using moderately and with responsibly.

>Often, a lot of people who are leaning towards AI generated content are not native English speakers.

I’ve noticed a few cases where the post itself is in perfect English, but the title is clearly by someone who has a very limited grasp of English. Easy downvote.

Yes, that’s a relatively easy case

Yeah and comments are similar to the title.

trouble is acid, we don't have enough downvote

I agree completely about the AI writing, but I find the AI art generators really handy, I've never been that great of an artist, so being able to have a visual representation for something I'm imagining is really good. Obviously if the content is centred around the piece of art that's bad, but if it's just being used as a thumbnail it's okay IMO.

The whole AI craze has gotten to a point now where it's seeping into everything, not just Hive. I've been coming across a lot of YouTube channels in the last year that seem to be completely AI made, AI script, AI music, AI voice, even AI videos over the rest. Mad really, but that seems to be the way things are going.

I think in the near future writers and content creators are going to need to do something drastic, like completely miss spell words, and use bad grammer and puncuation to prove that it's real haha by 2040 novels written by humans will be a mess, and the AI written ones will be masterworks in comparison.

But yeah, back to the serious note, it's a problem, especially here. I don't really know if it can be stopped though other than people being super suspicious of everyone elses content and not voting or even downvoting it on the grounds that it could be generated. Ofcourse it would be easy to tell whether something isn't personally written content, I.E no opinions/ life experiences referenced genuinely, but there is plenty of content written here that isn't blog style posts, so that would be harder to scrutinise or judge.

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I usually sign off with them on comments.

I feel they are spammy and I don't see any value on the comments that follows, which are auto-generated.

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I have never been a fan of the downvote function, but for AI generated work ... absolutely. To the language barrier; there are translate apps that allow people to communicate across languages using human generated text.

I am a big fan of downvote. This is the only tool we have to restrict the abuse of the reward pool

This is what I felt when I heard about chatgpt helping content creator...ho eetly the more we are advancing we are leaving behind all the human touch and thought which is not good at all....the day is not far that we becomes machine slave

Glad someone brought this up. I guess we'll soon be flooded with AI generated text and as you say if there is a way to figure out content that is not original we'll be doing Hive and us a huge favour.

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Oh great! Are you going to start a downvoting trail or something of the sorts! I'd love to jump in on that...

I was a little worried about me posting AI generated art but I read that piece at the end.. So I am assuming I am safe... Since I do add my own text content... But it might not be the best 😂😂😂

No I do fully agree, I wonder what's the hype behind this chatgpt... Ive seen it going crazy the last few weeks

I think AI art is okay as long as you say it is and not pass it off as your own freaking photograph, like the post I spotted today.

I agree with your opinion. I've been writing in Splinterlands, and in my opinion, since Splinterlands is very niche game topic, its currently less prone to farmer creating AI generated content. But we won't know for sure in the future.

I could just think some aspect of an original writing: 1) It contains a personalized opinion of the writer; and 2) The writing would use some referral, either a referral link pointing to other paragraph within the posts or link to the writer past content.

I agree 💯

This is a no brainer, dada, posting AI generated writing and trying to get a payout at the end of the week? No integrity. Sadly, I know what you're talking about, and maybe even who you're talking about.

I only use some AI art whenever I can't find a proper image for my writing. You can also be quite creative with AI art; one can only create a good AI image when the text prompts are on point, and that takes quite a bit of time and thought.

I say art is the only form of AI content that is somewhat acceptable. Whether it be on Hive or any other platform, AI art can be used as a secondary addition, to somewhat "enhance" or assist the the main and original content/writing. And of course, it should also be mentioned below that the images were created through the help of AI.

AI art is copyright free. So can be used as a supporting content. I do not vote any picture only posts anyways. Original or otherwise.

As you can see, my decision is immediate and final

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If you see something do let me know. With your reputation pushing 72, you can't ignore your personal responsibility anymore.

Time to give something back. This is NOT a request.

> As you can see, my decision is immediate and final

I understood that as soon as I saw the post, dada.

> If you see something do let me know. With your reputation pushing 72, you can't ignore your personal responsibility anymore. Time to give something back. This is NOT a request.

I will surely keep an eye on the communities and posts. I'm always on the lookout, but I'm not as active as I used to be, but I'll try to be more observant from now on. I'll notify you if I find something fishy.

There are certain communities on Hive, where you can find a lot of AI generated content and it is supported too. There are certain users using AI, who you can spot from a mile. It's enough to question them about what they wrote in the post and you have the proof. I've been downvoting them for a while.

Please let me know the obvious text content that you suspect of AI generation. Publicly. Here, or better, as a post. Let us have a public discussion.

Yes, I understand what happens when 'shit-hit-the-fan'. Believe me, I have multiple prior experiences. And, NO, this is NOT a witch hunt.

@alenazaa, you may want to read azircon's post. You may find the answer to your question. Also don't forget to look at your engagement.

Any way to start dropping account names with AI generated content on here? Or in some discord? I have spot like a handful of those since a few weeks ago...

Yes, it is possible.

I am mostly interested in text and NOT art. As Art is non-copyrighted

Welp, here you go, this is someone who either does covers or AI text + images posts. User: iamdarrenclaxton. All his latest post were checked with GLTR and GPT-2 Output Detector Demo, and it market 99% AI. So... Im gonna just drop it here. And if you have some discord channel, or you are on Hive-dr, it would be good :) as this is just number 1 on an endless pit.

To clarify, his coverts are original content, so Lets just say that he would rather be undetectable if you don't look at him close enough.

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If I catch more people like him, where do I report them? I reported this one on a couple ocations, as he has been doing AI post since weeks ago. But no one did nothing.

Report at the comment section of this post

Well, If Hive-dr and hivewatcher do not give me any heads up, I will. Anyway, good job and see you aroudn :)

They are blacklisting users posting AI generated content, so I suppose you can report them to HW. The punishment is harsh.

I agree AI content should be identified and called out. I follow a few people that have used AI art with their stories or discussed how AI is being/might be used in their professions. It seems clear what is legitimate discussion/use and what is abuse.

Please call out then. AI text only please.

Completely agree, this can cause many problems in the future and give the facility to many people who opt for this system both to perform work of his institute, 100% agree with you friend.

>My personal views are simple. If someone is smart enought to resort to AI generated content and posting for rewards, all they care for is money. In that case all they deserve is downvote.

Oops, well said AI = downvote !

I support this 100%. It seems like another basic detection would be personal pictures.

Yes. That is one of the reason, I suggested personal pictures for PH community. That helps us in two ways. Helps us understand and know who you are. Also makes it hard to generate automated content.

@azircon Hello I just got downvoted on my post by you and I am dead certain I wrote every single word of that post by myself. Can you please look into that?

yes, and I am dead certain, that I do not see any value in that post.

End of discussion.

Great! Fully agree on this. I've heard some news about student made AI plagiarism detector hopefully devs working behind the scenes are making similar one to make Things work fine and same for everyone.

It's a shame, I really do see the value in writing original content, it is a way to express ones thought's and feelings. I will pay personal attention to all posts generated through TeamPH and will support this initiative especially within our community. Thank you @azircon !

Appreciated. That’s the reason I insisted on personal and local pictures + life stories. AI can’t do that

Our community is starting to write more now, even myself, I am trying to reserve posting every day as opposed to every other day to ensure quality content only but always feel like writing. This competition has really had a positive effect, I hope we get a few more entries before competition closes.

Although I do agree that AI-generated text being passed off as original content should not be rewarded (on Hive or elsewhere), I fear that it’s going to be exceedingly difficult to stop.

As a university professor, I’m convinced that there’s no way we can continue relying on essays as a way to gauge student learning and comprehension.

I’ve taken steps to make it harder for my students to rely on AI to write their essays, but it’s an uphill battle that’s only going to get harder.

Even with OpenAI’s classifier, all the students need to do is revise the essay enough to fool the classifier, and eventually other AI tools will do that for them.

We will do what we can. Just like what you are doing for your students. We will make it difficult

I was talking with hubby about this just yesterday. At some point the only way to be sure in schools may be to go back to writing by hand. It seems ironic in many ways, yet it's only really a generation ago that we all hand wrote essays.

I actually had my first encounter last week with a student using ChatGPT to write assigned essays.

Quite frankly, I noticed that the essays were 'too good'. When confronted, the student initially denied using any generative-text tools, but has since come clean.

As I stated in a post about ChatGPT several weeks ago, educators are going to have to abandon essays as a means of measuring student engagement and comprehension (unless the essays are written 'by hand' or proctored).

Finally someone has stated his stance on ai generated contents. Which I will personally use as reference in future. Thank you for this. It's time to go on rogue mode to stop/limit ai generated contents from HIVE.

In this same context, I do have suspicion that This Post is probably generated by AI (I cant prove it though). Additionally, this person has been spamming bit too much for past few months even after I have warned him several times.

Ask him to reduce the post frequency.

This actually made me laugh at first as I thought, "hmm I guess people COULD do that, but why?" Sometimes I'm a bit too innocent for my own good lol. But, for me, why this is sad, is I always say that Hive (and steemit when I started there) was like the glory days of the interwebs when personal blogs were a thing. Pre too much facebook, tik tok, instagram etc I LOVED that it was like a great place to read personal journals and almost like ZINE quality publications by individuals. I LOVE that Hive still had that feeling, Dear Internet GODS please don't take this last bastion of that away!

Soon, we won't even need humans to read anything we'll just have the ai bots do it, filter it and implant what we 'need' in our brain chips...Brave New World eh?
INteresting @azircon

How would you feel about AI generated writing that's edited, i.e., polished and personal7zed/customized. Perhaps generated through the burning of a token?

Don’t know about burning of a token. Not sure what that means. But if there is enough editing then it’s possible to consider it. However then it’s defies logic why would anyone do it. They can just write original post.

Because I'd eventually like to have this service, that tells the heroic details of my splinterlands battles, that I don't have to write myself. Pay a bot to pull hit and miss stats and flesh them out, with me adding tweeks here and there, to direct it, and maybe another bot to create artwork of different scenes within it, and now my blog has an ongoing story about how awesome I am. 😁

Think of it as a bot bard we can hire to sing our praises.

Yeah in that case you don’t need the rest of us on this blockchain. Do you?

I don't understand the question. You're for whom the bot bard sings.

Edit, now I have time...

Imagine, if you will, you're strolling through the Splinterlands with Daria Dragonscale... discussing how brutally to beat a kobold slave when they fail you, or whatever, and you happen across me, in the bushes, with Mimosa Nightshade. Obviously, I'm not gonna want Naga Assassin finding out what I'm up to, on the sly, so I have Mimosa summon up a squad of shut yo mouth to break out, and open up a can o' whoop ass to keep you from loose-lipping me in the ship and you beat me like a red-headed step child. Don't you agree that's a tale in need of being told, with artwork?

Is this AI?

Not sure who will read it. But with enough editing, maybe.

The same people who read season report cards?

It seems like it would be fun whether it's good or bad. If it's good players can get a passive comic based on their happenings in splinterlands and if it's bad it's like watching a puppy gleefully trip over its own big feet.

Nm... I don't think this really relates to what you're talking about anymore, and I'm probably on the bleedy edge of rambling off into Dog knows where, so... NINJA SMOKE VANSIH!!

No no there is a point there.

Daily battle post curated by Splinterlands are dismal. This does have a potential to be better than that. But I just like enough human effort and touch in it

I think it would encourage human effort. A bot will string together a clumsy sentence, but I'd think most people using it would either like the premise and edit it, or post about how terrible it is.

> Sinistry lunched from the bushes, his unlikely chicken wing slashing bravest...

I'm with ya! Being a photographer and not a writer I considered using AI for my posts. But overall it just I just get an icky feeling at the idea. Its not original or you.

I 100% agree on this. It does not promote self growth and is just aimed at extracting value in the system without putting any effort. As for me, I have spent long amount of time researching for a content, customizing images and sharing my individual thoughts for the topic I'm writing and when I finished writing them, I feel a sense of accomplishment regardless of it being rewarded or not and I think I have improved so much for the past 10 months looking at my Splinterlands content alone but I still strive to make it better and better.

permission to ask can we use google translate or can you give an example that includes ai. answer please

full support

Been so busy this week and just came across this post, which I fully agree and support. This whole AI thing is giving me massive concerns since ChatGPT appeared last year, and I know for sure there are more and more AI generated content these couple of months.

At the moment I have refrained from DV them yet, bar one account. Their chances of curation is reduced by what is within my control which is not a lot but sizeable for abusers.

I'm pretty sure as the detection tools become more mature, and I'm confident I can pick out accounts that AI generated content my DV will be there as well. Curators just need to spend more effort to analyse the post instead of just supporting a post that has a wall of well written text and good photos. Sometimes content is just too good to be true.

Hey @livinguktaiwan me too re our Discord convo. This post made me so happy. @itsostylish did you catch it?

Fucking YES. I'm so over it already. A few have been creeping into Hive Garden and I just muted one today. Go dv it for me if you like. And the other day I had an argument with a guy who FINALLY admitted it was AI, and then got annoyed and left the community and possibly HIVE. Do they think we're idiots or something? It's not fair on all the other people here who are trying hard. @azircon, I honestly can't tell you how happy I am to read this post.

https://peakd.com/hive-140635/@whisky2/how-to-grow-lettuce?fbclid=IwAR3kD2slHSA0TW-QJ23cdu6wZZyFoDYDjrHDnS3MSFp-LV-LTAVj9M_3krs

I would have no problem with the images IF he said 'I created these AI lettuces etc' but he's passed them off as his photographs - and the text is clearly AI generated as well. It drives me wild. Hive gardeners are awesome generally, passionate and honest, so when I find one of these I make very clear it's not on.

Yes well said River. AI posts are not original creative content.

💗🙏

Here's another one, same guy. Seems he thinks he's on a winner.

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@whisky2/growing-microgreens-at-home

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@whisky2/love-for-snails-night-smartphonephotography

https://peakd.com/hive-194913/@whisky2/porcini-mushrooms-smartphonephotography-and-some-interesting-info

https://leofinance.io/threads/@riverflows/re-leothreads-6iv71
https://leofinance.io/threads/@awildovasquez/re-leothreads-26r6dhvog
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Yes I agree with you, keep ChatGPT bot posts out of our Hive.

Hi @azircon, I do agree with you that using AI in HIVE which is supposed to be a blog where people should share original content is like cheating. I think the main problem is that as you said:
the fact we are relatively small (anything and everything gets voted, some to obnoxious amounts) .
I see a lot of posts, which are not original at all, or in which people didn't even put any effort at all to write being upvoted by the biggest curators. So the question that I ask, is: are all the curators even reading what they upvote? Of course, this is just a provocation since everyone is free to upvote what he thinks is good content, but in my opinion, since there is not a strict policy on downvotes, this makes it easier to "cheat".
When you give people the possibility to avoid the rules, they will...
I see that a huge percentage of people on Hive put a lot of comments under posts that are generic on purpose since they didn't even read them. Wouldn't it be a good idea to downvote these comments? (and I don't want to be a hypocrite here, I also do it sometimes, simply because it is allowed and no one says anything about it).
To make HIVE a better community and get people more involved I think this is a good starting point.

Hi @azircon,

I enjoy your post and spend time reading many comments here and I like the fact that you mention that is your personal opinion and your approach on this topic and I like that.

I think Artificial intelligence is bigger than articles and in my opinion, we need to pay more attention to those people who just copy/paste an article just to get paid and they did not earn the rewards for that shitty work, but what happened when Developers just do it?

What happens if the developer creates 5 websites in 1/4 of the time?

Did you know that there are AI tools that can edit a video very fast and get give you a high-quality edited video with subtitles, color correction, and new background removed and give you 10 different videos with different formats?

Right now, I'm writing this comment and I have an extension that is helping me with my mistyping called "Grammarly" because I'm not a native English speaker and without this extension, my comment will look like I'm a retard. My comment should be banned because I use AI to help me?

What I'm trying to say is that Artificial Intelligence is here to stay and we need to learn more about this new technology and try to get the best of it. How? I don't know the answer yet but is our duty to find out.

Grammarly is fine. Getting an AI to write entire thing for you is not. Most curators can tell difference.

I couldn't agree more, AI-generated text is not original content.

100% right and this should be the rule as there is no grey area with this type of behavior.

Just collided with and though I don't use AI to write, I use it to generate images that go with the pieces I have created. Is that wrong?

I don't decide right or wrong. If I see something that I don't like, I typically downvote it

I want to assume that I haven't tipped over that bar yet then but I prefer it over free images as finding such to match my words has been a task. Thanks for the reply.

That's really needed. We all wanna be connected by emotions and feelings. No AI can replace these things.

@azircon Here is another. This is over 90 percent but I suspect he has a few more.

https://peakd.com/hive-163772/@forthefree19/new-zealand-the-dream-of

there is not much rewards, but whatever was there, I removed them

Thanks. More about stopping further abuse I reckon sometimes. I have my injustice nerve tweaked now and am on the hyper lookout.

I've tried to clean out the AI content that I've seen as well and left a few comments to the author that was posting them, to cut it out as I and many others don't feel that AI content deserves rewards. Thankfully they seem to have stopped at least for the time being. I don't know if they have other accounts, which they likely do but the more we can stamp out on the AI content front the better.

I'm interested in the methods used to detect the AI content but only in the terms of the community I own. I don't think there is any AI generated content in it but it would be nice to have someone pop in there occasionally to check it out and clean out a post or two if it's detected. The Rant, Complain, Talk community.

Given the nature of the Rant community though, with it being largely people needing to vent, I'm thankful that all of the content I've come across is genuine human content, to my knowledge. It wouldn't hurt to have one of the proof readers give it a look though!

Personally I would consider accepting AI generated content if properly market and explained what tool was used. Using AI may be an important skill and we can't become like journalists who are offended by reality changes

Lets be honest here.. Only folks who haven't been actually paying attention are just starting to panic about this shit..

AI shitposting has been a thing on HIVE for well over 2 years at this point. Only fucking non-technical normies are panicking about this shit and noticing it now that it's going mainstream.

If anyone is deluded enough to think that small bands of rent a cop type users on HIVE is going to be able to do shit about AI genn'd content wave incoming.. Then you're higher than I am, which is impressive.

The fact people are witch hunting long time users that have done plenty of good for the chain because they tested an AI shitposter when ya'll haven't noticed the shit increase the past 2 years prior to chatGPT becoming mainstream says a lot.

Pro-Tip: Guys that test out tools and admit it right away aren't the fucking issue.

I am not sure if I have come across such content, maybe I have since you well explained that the authors are not native English speakers. Also, they won't be able to communicate any emotions since it's AI. If I do come across any, I'd just ignore such posts.

It just proves that the author has a very low self esteem that makes him think he can't produce any good content worth upvoting.

Thanks for the enlightenment.👍

Your thinking is very much logical,,, due to Ai generated text our own talent doesn't implement properly 😌

I support the move human written content here. It will help us to retain a huge part of our human intelligence and emotional expressions

Understood 💯, it's better to share personal experiences, imaginary stories are allowed too, just vibe on hive 😊

Yeah I'm fully in support Ai should be banned from hive

Seriously, I totally support, I think people should just write however it comes to them, once it's original and communicates, I think it's cool

If you do it, that will be the end of your hive account. I will personally take care of that.

@azircon No you mistaken my point, I said I totally support the writer and people just just write however, once it's original