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What if tomorrow, STEEM was at 10$?
Keep that in mind as I am talking about the power of upvoting the comment section of your blog...
As a blogger on steemit, your number one asset is your followers and the people who engage with your content. This is why I make a point of upvoting good comments. As I mentioned in my previous post, some smartass started front-runing my upvotes on my comment section for a profit (and therefore making extra reward...which is awesome).
Now, I want to draw your attention to how much a simple $1 upvote on your comment can actually be worth to you.
Imagine if you only accumulated the rewards in SteemPower during that time
I have absolutely no doubt, with how things are going, to see STEEM get to $10 per unit. It could take a year or two but it's bound to happen.
That means that every $1 made during that time would actually be worth $10.
Since I try to write 5 times a week, that $5 a week would actually now be worth $50... only to have commented on my posts during that time.
What's in it for me?
For those who leave a thoughtful comment that adds to the discussion, I am more than happy to upvote for $1, $2 or even $3. It makes sense for me to make an incentive for good conversations to happen.
But in the future, what will it mean for me as a blogger?
Once STEEM is at $10, YOUR voting power would have multiplied by 10X! That means that someone with 1000 STEAM POWER will be able to reward $1 per vote when they are at 100% voting power.
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Okay, let's break this down:
If STEEM is at 10$
- The value of the rewards you have received from commenting would be worth 10X more
- My 5% upvote then will be worth 10$. (I would love to upvote $10 on good comments)
- Anyone with 1000 SP will be able to upvote a post at 100% and give a reward of $1.
- Someone in a poor country could live off the money made by commenting on my blog
Isn't it crazy to think about that?
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The tough part in regards to Steemit from the perspective of a new author is gaining exposure while wading through the shit pond of garbage posts in order to gain a following. There are so many junk articles out there it can be off putting to find your solid effort in writing an engaging and detailed post swallowed by a sea of bullshit articles consisting of regurgitated links and unoriginal thought that are for all intents and purposes spam.
I find it particularly frustrating when the aforementioned bullshit articles are nothing more than an aggregation of links copied and pasted from various sources such as Google news on a topic. It reminds me of Magpie, the old content aggregation code that we would use to vomit key word relevant articles into a feed on a site in order to move of the SERP and game the Adsense system.
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This unfortunately creates a situation where talented authors or those that have the requisite grey matter between their ears to write solid content must debase their character and engage in link spamming comments or whale posts in the hopes of getting some love.
I’m not quite sure what the solution to this issue is. Perhaps a category of up and coming should be created where new authors are featured based upon a ratio of positive feedback relative to posts; though even that would not work as it again fails to address the issue of initial exposure in order to gain the needed positive feedback. Perhaps a metric needs to be applied to number of words vs. links, or number of words total. Longer more engaging articles would receive a multiplier based on the likelihood of them containing good content. Whereas posts of aggregated links would receive a penalty as they likely contain nothing of substance.
This may even address what I as a new user have come to see as “lazy whale syndrome”.. I’m a whale, I made it.. I’m just going to post articles full of links with the mentality that the legion of dung beetles following me will upvote in the hopes of gaining curation manna the turd I just produced.
I’m not sure what the actual solution is so I’ll just keep lurking in the shadows ambushing whale articles with link spam until I’m all grown up and can venture out on my own.
Well i am sure that once everyone is commenting more than "vote you / you vote me" and once most whale-ish authors start doing as @cryptoctopus does and vote comments that are worth it.
New comer bloggers will see a source of rewards for quality comments while they develop their follower base
Curators, can keep an eye on the authors whose comment got so highly voted as it indicates potentially good content will be coming from that author...
To express it mathematically = (Win / Win)^n
HODL STEEM !
Pump pump pump... Never dump!
This is the future of our platform!
We are making the market laws...
When the BTC bag is full, whales entice us to move deeper inside, smart new comers can help play the game by surfing the pump wave, this is normal as is needed so increase the stake and build the don't panic wall!
I have been looking at it and the bubble is not being bursted, it is just moving, slowly deflating, the scammer might be having fun, but you can see the way the market moves, that some whales beleive in the future and the adopters and beleivers just need to follow their path to help create equiality and wealth...
Usually the ones trying to convert this into Wall Street 2.0 either get big bags of $$ and go away or fall to the good whales, it is the financial battle of good vs evil!
I consider my duty as new comer to trust there are others like you and me that are convinced this is the future, we shall become another wave of whales this time to join ranks with the ones doing the pumps and easing the dumps so the whealth is distributed and then go and build that money wall of trust because crypto just went LIVE man for the humanity we are te gateway and steemit has a really important role!
I have learnt and understood so much this last few days... either that or o got really scammed... in a few months time i will be able to tell!
For now i trust and beleive, and as soon as i'm strong enough I will take part into building that wall, because it is our chance to show things can be done in an ethical way!
Steem is currently at number 34 in market caps with a value of $347,280,180. The current price is $1.41 so the market cap would have to move up to about $3 billion which don't seem unrealistic. There are other coins/tokens that are much less likely to succeed than steemit.
I would argue that the entire crypto market is going to grow by a multiple of 10 in the coming years and steemit will grow by a multiple of 10 with relation to the entire crypto market. With this being said, I wouldn't be surprised to see a $140 steem (or much higher) by 2020. Further, if there are any serious outbursts of problems in the financial system or the USD starts falling, then we could even see much bigger numbers than that.
If steemit reaches Twitter level usage (which it looks like it is heading there), then steem should have a somewhat equivalent market cap as Twitter which is valued at $15-22 billion. Further, steemit has the power to do so so much more than Twitter.
Technology grows exponentially so the value could start shifting the decimal places ($1.40 -> $14.00 -> $140.00 -> $1400 -> ...) very rapidly.
I look forward to seeing where this is heading!
Ya, it's true ; v ;)
A common thing I see, is people say we should post on Steemit instead of other sites, because we make money...
But, the interaction I get on other sites tends to outweigh the amount I make on Steemit. At least I know that people on other sites really like my stuff, what they like, and why they like it.
The lack of interaction on Steemit just makes me feel like I'm talking to myself, out in a void. It's really lonely and discouraging ; v ;)"""
So I can make money off Steemit. So what? If people ignore me, I just lose interest.
I am happy though that it seems like there's more comic style artists on here lately, so I think maybe there's more people with common interests to me, now. I've been trying to keep sociable as much as I can - I figure if I leave lots of comments, even if my votes aren't worth much, I can help encourage people to keep posting <33 💕💕
It's not crazy, it's inspiring!
I just checked and I made exactly $1 today from all my comments in total. I thoroughly enjoyed my conversations this morning - a lot of back and forth with people, same as yesterday.
But it's not even only the $1 I earned, but sometimes these conversations also spark ideas for new articles. I actually made over $6 today from a post, which I would have never written, if it hadn't been for a conversation with another author here.
Currently, at 625 SP I can give 6¢ @ 100% @ 100%.
It is nice to be able to give my commenters a 2¢ vote.
I remember when the voting curves were different, and my low SP couldn't even move the value.
@Cryptoctopus is correct, the more you vote, the more your vote will improve. It tends to be a maddeningly slow process, but you continue growing your community, and continue accumulating SP and cryptos continue to go up.
I found that 1MVest was the point at which voting became much easier for me. Getting curation rewards often and being able to use a slider for vote percentage.
1 Million Vests is about 487 SP
I am a lot more optimistic about the time that STEEM hits $10....St Patricks Day the latest.
As for the article, brilliant. I just wrote a post about how the curation/reward system is not broken, that it is working exactly as intended. Wealth is being shared and transferred from the hands of a few to the rest of us. A big part of that is people using their allotted 20% daily of voting power. That is where the force lies. When people upvote others, it puts more SP in their wallet which is more VP. Those who keep coming back to vote your stuff up will have more VP to give to you. It is a wonderful cycle.
It is easy to fret and moan about things being broken yet few take the time to learn how the system is actually working and how to partake in it. I think you for posting this and reminding me to upvote all my commenters (which I do anyway).
I just commented with a guy who said he was having a tough time getting people to his blog to read his content. I looked at his page and he has 200 posts..he joined in September. If one does not get involved, how is anyone going to know that person.
I guess it is easier to blame the reward system out of either jealousy or laziness. I am sure many attack simply because they are jealous that someone else is having success. Others simply dont want to put in the effort.
In 3 months on here, I made over 5200 posts (most of which are comments)....less than some, more than most. And they are mostly legit comments not the nice post thanks stuff.
That is what enhances an ecosystem...true participation. Do that and, over time, the system works.
Amazing isnt it?
Damn that might be fodder for another post. LOL
Yes I can understand that.
I noticed the once commenting to pinch votes.....
I tend to upvote everything in one of my posts...I go through later when my SP is up...but many of the posts are junk...nice post, great info, yadda yadda yadda.....
That doesnt add to the conversation....
Oh well....most of them are desperate so what the heck....if a few cents is really worth it to them whereas a well thought out post of even a few sentences would get them double or triple that without a thought...
People are always looking for short cuts in that regard.
That last comment really puts things in perspective for me, someone could actually live off of Steemit. Not just the ones that make it big, but a regular joe, could make a decent income in a poor country just by commenting. I upvote most of the comments I get too as I want to give back to people who take the time to engage with my content.
My only concern would be how much of that would be eaten by fees before it was converted into their currency. I've found it very prohibiting to convert to my currency because of local bank fees etc on top of the taxes demanded by the state. I don't think we're moving all that fast towards an entire world where you can pay with steem when you buy gas, groceries or pay a mortgage with it, but wouldn't that be wonderful?
That's the way to do it :) I am doing the same (only on a much smaller scale) if users I resteem via @welcoming are replying and starting a good conversation. For now it may just be 10 cents per post - But hey, if we think like you, that could grow a lot!
I also think it is important to motivate new users that way - growth of the platform will a) make it harder for other platforms to catch up (network effect) and b) let the value of STEEM rise in the long run!
Obviously I have no clue if you have heard of my new project with @welcoming (there is a recent post in my profile), but if you ever want to look for some curation of promising new users, try @welcoming's blog to find them without having to dig through the spam!
I don't know if you see this comment as upvote-worthy or not - But if you do, please don't upvote it and upvote one new user with 1$ instead :)
Have a nice evening!
You make a really good point. I have thought form the very beginning that I feel we are missing something in Steem and that it is comments.
I often see written on Reddit that the real jokes are in the comments. And I think that is true. Reading comments on people posts in Reddit is usually much more interesting than reading the actual post.
I think we have an issue in Steemit where comments do not matter as much as the actual posts. Yet, if I am correct, we have a separate reward pool for comments.
My question is, do we need to change the way in which voting for comments works? If we have a separate reward pool for comments, can we create a separate VP for users so that they are more inclined to upvote quality comments?
On Steem, we all know that collaboration is really what is going to make us grow. Could pushing people to comment actually help us grow faster?
>Reading comments on people posts in Reddit is usually much more interesting than reading the actual post.
100% true. That's always been my experience. Sometimes i would just scan the post for context and then read all the comments.
> a separate reward pool for comments.
It's all the same reward pool. Everybody distributes reward (or penalty) according to their votes, and can choose whether to reward posts, comments, or both.
I personally agree that steem will keep rising in value, unless bitcoin crashes. The part that I am not certain if I agree with is the idea of treating steemit like a method of making money. While it is definitely possible to do so,I would say that steemit shouldn't be treated as an income due to the unpredictability of it. Maybe if you managed to get a whale to come and upvote a bunch of your posts and became possible, but for the vast majority of active users, that becomes really unlikely (I mean if you go by steemitboard there are only 38 whales to thousands of redfish, minnows, and dolphins)
I like the idea of steem raising to $10, but I am not to keen on the perpetuation of making everyone think that steemit is a main income (I know that isn't the point of your post but it is easy to see how it could be comprehended that way)
Just WOW!
Thats why I got in all that blockchain content it might really change our world to a better place!
I want to believe in some
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Earning on the content of others, the ideas, the companies and that by every single person no matter how "small" he/her feels he/she is.
As a begginner in crypto I introduced one of my friends to this new world but he was like "I can´t do this, I won´t understand, I don´t understand english enough etc. etc."
I convinced him to sign up on steemit (currently waiting for validation) and post his "failed life" as he sees it. I want him to share his story to get a food in this new possibilities.
I'll do my best to keep him along on this way.
As we have both little experience on how to start a bio at all we might just introduce him to you out there :)
Will love to share more!
Live long and prosper
The FAQ discusses how much percentage goes to Author vs. Curator:
https://steemit.com/faq.html#What_determines_how_much_of_the_curation_reward_goes_to_the_author_versus_curators
What determines how much of the curation reward goes to the author versus curators?
The rewards are allocated so that 75% of the payout goes to the author of the post/comment, and 25% goes to the curator.
Of the 25% that goes to the curator, that portion will be split between the author and the curator if the curator votes within the first 30 minutes. The split of the 25% between the author and curator during the first 30 minutes is calculated linearly based on the time the vote is cast.
If a post is upvoted the moment of posting, 100% of the curation reward goes to the author.
At 3 minutes, 90% goes to the author and 10% to the curator.
At 15 minutes it's a 50/50 split.
At 27 minutes, 10% goes to the author and 90% to the curator.
If a post is upvoted 30 min after posting, 100% of the curation reward goes to the curator.
If a post is upvoted immediately by the author, then they collect 100% of both the curation and author reward. However, by not upvoting immediately, it gives incentives for another potential curator to upvote. That potential curator could have a lot of steem power to give a big payout that might outweigh receiving the 100% curator reward yourself. You might not get that upvote if that article is self curated. Correct me if I am mistaking.
I studied all the 3 minnow’s advice posts.
Very interesting to read the earlier days of steemit; way back... back.. very back... May 16. You are absolutely correct in mentioning that do not bother about curation rewards or post rewards. It took me 4 months to understand that I can earn rewards by commenting and now I earn more rewards by commenting or replying than my own posts. The post I take good pains get 4 or 5 votes with no reply. But a funny YouTube copied video gets 45 votes. I think it is no use of finding logic. As you said sheer luck. But i keep going on posting, commenting, replying up voting. When I see your 72 rating I get inspired.
Second post gives good suggestions to minnows like me. I studied 3 times. Seriously planning to start on those grounds. I liked your suggestion “If you do what most people do, you are going to get what most people get." so I feel, time for me to do that core 10% can do. Thanks for the suggestion.
ha... ha...ha... "Post pictures of their cats and have fun" true I see them hundreds every day. I spend at least 4 hours on steemit site... getting new tips day by day.
Your third post gave me some more clarity. I am on that now... seriously. Your guidance is very valuable for me.
Fantastic suggestions and great 3 posts. I am taking it seriously. Till now I was wandering in a dark jungle with little lamp. Thank you very very much. I understood that you really mean what you said in your post: "The virtuous cycle of upvoting your comment section..."
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@cryptoctopus this is one of the things I have been thinking about how everything is affected when the price of steem goes up, and you just explained everything and it goes with what I was figuring out.
The vision of @dan for the steem blockchain and steemit is happening right now, and lets imagine about how the freedom, and enpowering people and giving us the control again that is were it belongs to, will be once the price starts climbing to 5x then to 10x, and then when it will be at $100 1 steem. It will be amazing how people around the world will be able to make a living with the platform. With steemit we are all contributing in a free government/banks community, with our own rules, and things happen spontaneously, and people help other people, and the positive circle of helping, collaborating is gaining more and more power.
@utopian-io from @elear just launched on the right time, creating the market and economy to fund open source projects in a way never thought of a few years ago. See visionaries like @elear and @dan that are crazy enough they can change the world, they actually do it. And we will get to see the biggest transfer of wealth of all times, once the money flows from bitcoin (unable to support the transaction increase demand) to the big 3 (steem, eos and bitshares). Just upvoted and resteemed. Thanks for sharing this powerful information to the steemit community.
Regards,
@gold84
Yes, for me, your article seeems cool, but I'm not pretty sure :
What steem (monney) do you speak about ? SBD ? Steem power? Because if it's SBD money, the creators of steem have mentioned in their whitepaper that Steems is aim to stay at 1$ / 1 Steem, if it goes up, it will go back to 1$; if it goes down, it will come back to 1$ too.
I quote the white paper :
"If the debt-to-ownership ratio is low and SBD is trading for less than $1.00, then the interest rate should
be increased. This will encourage more people to hold their SBD and support the price.
If SBD trades for less than $1.00 USD and the debt-to-ownership ratio is high, then the feeds should be
adjusted upward give more STEEM per SBD. This will increase demand for SBD while also reducing the
debt-to-ownership ratio and returning SBD to parity with USD."
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Sorry, I haven't read all the comments above, maybe it was already mentionned. Can you tell me what is your point? Am I wrong about this?
Thanks for this interesting and enlightening post. When I first became active on Steemit, I started producing quality content in the hopes that I would earn some quick Steem or SBD. Of course, that was not to be.
But over the past few months, I've come to realize that the future holds much potential – to such a degree that we can hardly comprehend it now.
Therefore, I first worked only at producing quality posts, but soon started to focus also on developing a solid community of followers who have a similar focus.
As you point out, it's clear that any SBD or Steem earned now will be much more valuable in the future. And any community that you develop and support now will also be more "valuable" a year or two down the road.
Thanks for doing the math and presenting it to us in this post.
Yes, it is crazy, and let's keep thinking about that and working towards it.