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 --- A GOPHER-LIKE INTERFACE FOR HIVE BLOCKCHAIN ---

Hive Ledger application submitted for official review

BY: @engrave | CREATED: Nov. 9, 2021, 6 p.m. | VOTES: 409 | PAYOUT: $286.75 | [ VOTE ]

[IMAGE: https://i.imgur.com/PUTrz31.png]

Just a quick note: I have fulfilled all the requirements and submitted Hive ledger application for official security and functional review.

It usually takes about a month for Ledger Team to review the app. They process submissions in order of priority based on several criteria such as market cap and exchange support. We're not in CMC top100 but we're pretty high and I believe Hive application will be processed soon.

During that time, it should appear in Ledger Live as an "unaudited application in developer mode". If that happens - it will be much easier to install and test it (current process is too complicated for most users). Will post an update when that happens.

Next step

Because of Hive nature (multiple roles of private keys and username instead of public addresses), it is much more complicated to associate the account with Ledger device than most other blockchains. To make it easier, I've designed a new wallet dedicated to Hive Ledger application.

[IMAGE: https://i.imgur.com/JIR0niK.png]

The design is finished, covering all use cases for cold storage and governance (proposals and witness voting!).

Because using hardware wallets is safe, this piece of software will be available online without the need to download and install anything. I want it to be a good-looking and easy-to-use wallet for Hive. Especially for newcomers. I believe this should increase our adoption rate.

Now we wait

Now we need to wait for the review results and during that time I'm going to spend even more time on the new wallet.

Support me with your witness vote. Click on the image below

[IMAGE: https://images.hive.blog/DQmUghvic5TCPPvVkB4iB7eXmgQ3RQ4L8jkVizvuCBW8RMT/banner_engrave%20100.png]

TAGS: [ #hive ] [ #ledger ] [ #hiveprojects ] [ #witness-update ] [ #hivedev ] [ #engrave ]

Replies

@dalz | Nov. 9, 2021, 6:35 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Amazing job!
Hope ledger deliver on their side.
Vote you for witness a long time ago :)
I encourage others to do it as well!

@engrave | Nov. 9, 2021, 6:56 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks a lot for your support :)

@xmauron3 | Nov. 9, 2021, 6:49 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome! Can’t wait to start using it

@emeka4 | Nov. 9, 2021, 6:59 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This is amazing. Keep up the good work

@stayoutoftherz | Nov. 9, 2021, 7:14 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Great, but I don´t get why would someone transfer Hive off from the Hive wallet? It is quite save there, and as HP you get the inflation and rewards! Why store liquid Hive elsewhere?
It would give some visibility, yes. Is this the main reason?

@engrave | Nov. 9, 2021, 7:22 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

>It is quite save there

Until you compromise your key by pasting it into a comment or somewhere by the incident. Check out @keys-defender to see how often people lose their assets because of this.

And there is no such thing as "transfer funds to hardware wallet" - consider it as a key manager (it can be compared to the Hive Keychain). You might keep your assets on your current account, just replace your owner key with the one derived from a device. You won't compromise it because you will have zero knowledge of your private key.

@stayoutoftherz | Nov. 9, 2021, 7:43 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I see. That is smart!!

@urun | Nov. 9, 2021, 10:49 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

keychain works :) But yeah I think for ledger users love to use it for everything. Opens the door for the ledger only community :)

@engrave | Nov. 9, 2021, 10:56 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

I'm using keychain on a daily basis and it is great. But it is definitely more difficult to compromise your owner key when you can't see and copy it ;) I will change my owner's keys for sure. Better safe than sorry ;)

And yes, it should open some doors for "ledger" people. It will be much easier and safer to keep Hive as cold storage.

@urun | Nov. 9, 2021, 11:02 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Should be also difficult to compromise the owner key if you store it on whatever place :) and use only keychain with posting/active

@engrave | Nov. 9, 2021, 11:07 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

It is infinitely harder to compromise it when you don't have your private key ;)

@urun | Nov. 9, 2021, 11:13 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

On keychain is also encrypted with sha256 right? But sure for some people, it has a huge advantage, special if hive becomes more mainstream.

@engrave | Nov. 9, 2021, 11:19 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

It is encrypted, but there is a significant difference: for Hive Keychain you need to store your private key somewhere to be able to import it. You need to write it down or copy it from your notepad or key vault, or whatever. You're using your private key in a digital form somehow and you might be a target for some digital thefts. When using a hardware wallet you never receive your private key - it never leaves your hw device. The device stores it and use it to sign transactions.

@urun | Nov. 9, 2021, 11:30 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

True.

It is very useful and good to have it as an option on hive.

@manniman | Nov. 10, 2021, 1:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Dummy Proof. Can the Ledger then be used as a PKSA for HAS of @arcange?

@arcange | Nov. 10, 2021, 9:40 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Yes, it could be used as a PKSA.
The main problem is that you currently have to manually confirm each transaction.
If this is not a problem when there are actually some financial transactions, it is different for the social aspect of the platform. It would be extremely tedious to confirm every comment or vote.[IMAGE: https://i.imgur.com/XsrNmcl.png]

@manniman | Nov. 10, 2021, 12:36 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

That sounds logical, but some upvotes are tremendous and I'd like to confirm a 50bucks upvote for sure (if I had one) :))

@manniman | Nov. 10, 2021, 1:37 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Interesting 🧐, then that's the way all chains do it? 👨🏻‍💻

I didn't know that.

@acidyo | Nov. 9, 2021, 10:43 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Will delegation transactions be possible as well? Could be big for investors to reap in daily returns from delegations while holding their hive wallet on ledger and their safety measures.

@engrave | Nov. 9, 2021, 10:46 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]
@acidyo | Nov. 9, 2021, 10:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome!

@urun | Nov. 9, 2021, 10:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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Wow very nice. Many people love ledger so it would be nice if we are in that club :)

@engrave | Nov. 9, 2021, 10:50 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

We will get to the club ;) The app is ready, source code is clean and covered with unit and integration tests, manually tested etc. Pretty sure it will be accepted and published ;)

@urun | Nov. 9, 2021, 11 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

GM!

@quochuy | Nov. 9, 2021, 11:01 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome effort and work. Thanks

@poshtoken | Nov. 9, 2021, 11:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://twitter.com/oAcido/status/1458204708611502084
The rewards earned on this comment will go directly to the person sharing the post on Twitter as long as they are registered with @poshtoken. Sign up at https://hiveposh.com.

@theycallmedan | Nov. 10, 2021, 1:21 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome news, this is going to be very cool stuff to get on Ledger wallets. Opens up lots of doors for us. Cheers and thanks again for everything you've contributed!

@iptrucs | Nov. 14, 2021, 5:19 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hello @theycallmedan, for several days you have been downvoting my posts. What is the reason and what should I do? Thank you for your response.

@theycallmedan | Nov. 14, 2021, 9:38 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hello, it's nothing personal. I was following spaminator's trail, but it should stop soon.

@iptrucs | Nov. 14, 2021, 10:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

ok thanks because i was wondering why i was being downvoted. good night

@tomlee | Nov. 14, 2021, 9:26 p.m. | Votes: 13 | [ VOTE ]

Hello @theycallmedan

You recently downvoted my 700+ words original blog post....

https://peakd.com/hive-101690/@tomlee/2021-football-season-the-indomitable-reds

I'd love to know why. The fact that you have more money to invest in HP doesn't mean you should oppress others who don't have for no reason.

@keys-defender | Nov. 14, 2021, 9:26 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

https://images.hive.blog/DQmPBnnNpXeKBheDKYwAj7fB8338Bv79miQPuKSDQP1FrQT/image.png    

tomlee is a hacked account ❗❗ [1], [2], [3]
@theycallmedan please do not click on any links it may post. More info: 1 | 2.  Sincerely, @keys-defender.
@tomlee recover your account using your recovery account: https://hiveblocks.com/@tomlee > "Recovery account"
Comment 10% downvoted to make it less visible. This message is self-voted to be more visible among others.

@tomlee | Nov. 14, 2021, 9:27 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

My account is not a hacked account.

I don't understand

Where's all this coming from

@keys-defender | Nov. 14, 2021, 10:36 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Someone in the hivewathcers group put you in that blacklist. Will check what's going on

@tomlee | Nov. 14, 2021, 11:19 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Please do and I'll really really appreciate.

I want to go back to engaging on the platform but this downvoting issue is really discouraging.

I'll appreciate your assistance

Thank you in advance

@keys-defender | Nov. 17, 2021, 2:49 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

is it still going on or did it stop?

@tomlee | Nov. 17, 2021, 8:16 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

The @spaminator downvoting is still on

@keys-defender | Nov. 17, 2021, 8:44 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

that is not in my control

@hivewatcher | Nov. 20, 2021, 9:20 a.m. | Votes: 19 | [ VOTE ]

The account was removed from the spaminator 4 days ago.

@theycallmedan | Nov. 14, 2021, 9:37 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hey. Nothing personal, my account is currently following spaminator's trail, but should stop soon.

@tomlee | Nov. 14, 2021, 9:58 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

And why would @spaminator be trailing me. I don't spam nor plagiarize. You could look up my blog.

It's just draining and saddening receiving a huge downvote for a post that took me time to compile.

If there's any you can cut me off the @spaminator trail please do. I want to blog and engage more but this downvote thingy is discouraging and annoying..

I equally got a reply from @keys-defender that my account is a hacked account.

I don't just get it😭

@keys-defender | Nov. 14, 2021, 10:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hey, I'm following hivewatchers trail too. You must have been put in a blacklist. Will check what's going on..

@tomlee | Nov. 14, 2021, 11:20 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hivewatcher trail?

How come?🤦🤦

@tomlee | Nov. 14, 2021, 10:01 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

On another note, what happens to my $-34 I incurred because of your downvote on my post.

It's not everyday one gets upvoted by OCD community and now, it's gone because of some downvote.

Very sad

@theycallmedan | Nov. 15, 2021, 12:13 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Hey, sorry about that. I can help you recover what was lost. Please contact @eddiespino on Discord (eddiespino#2240), and he will be happy to help.

It seems that your account was spreading a phishing link some months ago, and that's why it has @spaminator downvotes. I suggest you contact @hivewatchers to tell them that you have control over your account.

[IMAGE: https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/theycallmedan/23tRxWiu3NwaGG8LiEqKwuuZKPfBC9gxgSGxR4S23iDwYgB4ZcE75w4TmZYcYGURJkHNj.png]

[IMAGE: https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/theycallmedan/Eo6D7EkJeyXD9pEFc7KJv6f1FVjgVcXL8qufCCYiio9iLJJaRiJUrZokBmVBHAbjeXM.png]

https://peakd.com/@tomlee/comments you made a lot of comments.

@tomlee | Nov. 15, 2021, 11:59 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This explains it. I'll contact those you have mentioned. Thank you.

@hivewatcher | Nov. 15, 2021, 11:15 a.m. | Votes: 13 | [ VOTE ]

Hi Tom.
Please come to speak to us about it in Discord:
https://discord.gg/V9CdZHHd

@tomlee | Nov. 15, 2021, 11:57 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Alright.

@tomlee | Nov. 15, 2021, 11:58 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Invite expired

@hivewatcher | Nov. 15, 2021, 8:27 p.m. | Votes: 12 | [ VOTE ]

https://discord.gg/mxxYGyf

@tomlee | Nov. 16, 2021, 11:53 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Please can the link be set to not expire?

Just seeing this and it's expired

@hivewatcher | Nov. 16, 2021, 12:17 p.m. | Votes: 20 | [ VOTE ]

It must be some Discord bug. I set the link to be infinite.
I will give you our main server link. Maybe it will work.
https://discord.gg/p9DN3D5
Please look for channel #phishing

Also, please change all the keys!

@tomlee | Nov. 17, 2021, 8:18 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Still invalid!

I did change all my keys.

@hivewatcher | Nov. 17, 2021, 10:01 a.m. | Votes: 21 | [ VOTE ]

I have just checked. The link is definitely working.

@onwugbenuvictor | Nov. 10, 2021, 5:51 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This is nice

@codingdefined | Nov. 11, 2021, 1:33 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome, it's great that the review happens and we can say we are officially a coin which can be supported on ledger. Great work.

@omarrojas | Nov. 19, 2021, 9:21 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Dear, I am very grateful for always positively evaluating my publications on Yoga, which motivates me to do it better every time. I wish you many successes. Sincerely @omarrojas from Venezuela.

@blockchainyouth | Dec. 14, 2021, 12:42 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

WICKED - can't believe I missed this - any updates?

@engrave | Dec. 14, 2021, 12:48 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I'm in contact with the Ledger Team and it's under review. Will post an update soon.

@blockchainyouth | Dec. 14, 2021, 1:11 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Wicked. Have not been posting as of late but am getting involved now I've sorted my life out a bit so am doing a bit of the rounds on any news and bits I may of missed, appreciate it

@daltono | Dec. 15, 2021, 7:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Any idea how this will work in tandem with the announcement of Ledger's new Crypto Life Card?

@engrave | Dec. 15, 2021, 9:06 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Don't know tbh, will make a research on the topic

@daltono | Dec. 15, 2021, 9:39 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome. I’m hopeful as are many others I’m sure.

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