https://www.cmlocals.com/wp-content/uploads/1-year-Thai-Visa.png
source
For many years living in Thailand was pretty straight-forward and easy: Don't break any laws and you can stay pretty much as long as you want to. There were ways of making each individual visa longer in duration but no one who wasn't wanted by the FBI or Interpol was denied visas. It all seemed to be working wonderfully for everyone: Thailand enjoyed the influx of foreigner money and investment and the foreigners enjoyed being able to live in a country where it is never cold and is generally cheaper than Western countries. Those days are far behind us.
These days it is exceptionally difficult to acquire a visa for any sort of long-term stay without a work-permit... and getting one of those is an entirely different and incredibly difficult journey.
People who have lived here for many years are getting fed up and leaving, and taking all of their assets with them. I truly believe that the Thai government will eventually regret this decision as their actions are already seeing negative results such as a "reverse housing crisis" that is already beginning in Chiang Mai (Chiang Mai is about 10% expats and there is a mass exodus going on at the moment, resulting in thousands of rental properties becoming vacant at once.)
[IMAGE: https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/gooddream/37CMnh32-800_e9bb595afe43dc58900a5731be82fde8.jpeg]
source
Whatever, i've already talked about that in great length. Let's talk about the new workaround that people who want to stay are pursuing for the time being and this too will almost certainly be a door that will quickly get closed.
The Volunteer Visa
Sounds innocent enough right? Who wouldn't love to do some volunteer work for a good cause right? I know that I would certainly be down with doing that and of course do so for free - which is what they expect of you - it's actually criminal for payment of any sort to be offered to people doing this.
https://www.cmlocals.com/wp-content/uploads/Thai-1-Year-Non-O-Volunteer-Visa-1.jpg
source
The idea is that you will work for poor schools teaching English or perhaps even donate your time to things like Habitat for Humanity type projects. Fantastic ideas abound until you take a look at the massive amount of paperwork that needs to be completed and then you have to pay for the visa as well and all of this is fine.
However, the "not-so-fine" aspects of this visa exist as well: Not only do they want you to work for free, they expect you to pay them for the privilege. The amount can vary, but as more and more people pursue this visa, the "rates" keep increasing. My friend just went through the process that was so complicated he hired an agency to do the process for him, then they wanted money "under the table" or what they call "tea money" for officials in order to approve his documents.
All in all, his volunteer visa is going to cost him more than $1000. Then he will finally be allowed to travel (on his own dime) to rural schools to go and teach English for 6 hours a week. I suppose that isn't that bad but by making the process so difficult they are discouraging people out of actually doing this.
There are also reports in the past of volunteers turning up at these "poor schools" only to discover that the children are all being dropped off by parents in brand new cars, some of which are luxury brands like Mercedes. The schools were never poor to begin with, but the corruption exists on both ends of this situation.
[IMAGE: https://files.steempeak.com/file/steempeak/gooddream/NTm0LxJo-corrupt-thai-society.jpg]
Dont want to pay the "tea money?" Well, a lot of people have had that attitude and a vast majority of them end up getting their visas denied.
More and more people are ending up with the same opinion as I now have: I've had enough and although it makes me sad to have to leave the country I have called home for 15 years in the rear-view mirror, I don't really want to play anymore.
This post about Thailand reminds me of what happened to me.
Visa Extension Block
I was trying to fix my Vietnam visa for two years from 2015 to 2017. Long story short, I was in Vietnam for five years from 2012 to 2017.
English Teacher
So, I went there and taught English.
American
I came there from the United States with a passport and visa.
Extended Visas
I would extend my visa again and again. After that, I went to Cambodia in 2013 to make a new visa and come back and extend that again and again.
Cambodia Visa Runs
In 2015, I went back to Cambodia and made a new visa and extended that again and again. And then, out of nowhere, a travel agency said I couldn't extend my visa.
Blacklists
They said I either was or might be on a blacklist. So, then I asked around and found other agencies that claimed they could help. So, I give them my passport. 2 weeks later, they say they can't.
Tried Fixing My Visa
Then I went to another one and then another one. I went to the embassy. I went to the immigration department. I went to many different places for months. Different people gave me different kinds of responses.
Two Years of Failure
Eventually, I was able to extend my visa, after two years.
Detained in America
So, after that, I returned to America and was like detained for hours at the airport in San Jose, California, USA. They looked through my bags. They looked at all of my things. They questioned me while others walked by me.
Terrorist Joey
They treated me like as if I was a terrorist or whatever. Long story like I said, I would try to study Vietnamese law. I think they gave me the wrong type of visa.
Different Visas
While living in Vietnam, I had different kinds of visas. I remember asking them for the right kind of visa. I think they ended up telling me to get a different kind of visa. Legally, it seems that they were required to tell me which kinds of visas I might be eligible for in the first place.
Justice
So, I wanted justice. I wanted them to be sued or whatever. They could possibly argue that I should have tried harder to only pay for the kind of visa that I originally asked for. I keep a blog on Steemit. I've been writing about some of these kinds of things for years now. So, I always have a lot to say about visas and everything.
Blacklist?
I do not know if I was actually on a list or not. I was told that I was on a list. Like I said, it's a long story.
Can I return?
I don't even know if I could go back into Vietnam or not. I was in Vietnam for five years. I left Vietnam twice and came back.
Two Times
See, they let me back into Vietnam two times. I was almost not allowed back into America. I was not able to extend my visa.
Extend Without Leaving
Now, I would extend my visa inside Vietnam and not outside of Vietnam. Yes, some people leave the country to make and extend visas. I would extend my visas inside Vietnam. I am thinking about trying to return to Vietnam someday to see if I can return. I was unable to extend a visa in 2015 in Vietnam. So, I was in Vietnam at that time.
Unable
So, I failed to extend my visa inside Vietnam.
Didn't Leave Vietnam to Extend
So, I did not leave Vietnam. So, then I went to different places to extend my visa inside Vietnam. So, I was in Vietnam for two years with no visa. I had no visa while living in Vietnam. I used to talk to a lot of people about this. It is very simple. What I'm trying to say I assume other people understand.
Simple
However, when I would tell people this, some people seem not to understand that you can extend a visa without leaving the country.
Travel Agency Deception
Now, some travel agencies may lie to you and say that you have to leave the country to extend the visa. Some travel agencies make new visas for the tourists. You do not always have to make a new visa.
Differences
There are differences between the visa stamps and the visa papers that they glue to the passport pages. They tend to tell you to do the more expensive one as they're trying to make more money from the travelers.
Residence Not Required
I was able to extend my visa a few times even without an apartment. I say that to say that residence is not always a factor when extending or renewing visas. It sometimes depends on the kind of visa.
Extend vs Renew
Oh, by the way, there can be differences between extending and renewing visas. Like I said, all of this is a long story. Some of this can be complex if you haven't lived through it.
Pinocchio
And even if you have lived through it, you still may not know everything as many travel agencies tend to lie to their customers it seems at least to some extent, generally speaking.