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Tell us how you really feel... I can only assume you're not one of the mundanes?

Next post you'll probably tell all us the Earth isn't flat and hollow. The reptilian overlords are watching..

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> I can only assume you're not one of the mundanes?

Being a mundane is like getting lazy and fat. Anyone can do it.

Well, unfortunately, you are incorrect, by a very obvious fact.

Group A remembers it one way.
Group B remembers it another way.

If it was, like you stated, a lack of accurate memory, then there wouldn't be any groups, it would be a splatter graph around the "correct version".

But, that is not the case.
That there is a very large group of people that distinctly remember something different is entirely out of probability that it was error.

Now, the stupid penny...

Coins, to most people are meaningless chunks of metal.
No one knows or cares what is on them.

If they did, people at the FED and the mint would be up on serious charges for crimes against humanity.

Further, the image you gave from the psyche book, several of the images are correct... as long as you weren't specific on the year. So, you are asking something only a numismatist would even know.

Lastly, one more piece to disprove your suggestion that it is all a failure of memory.

In many of these cases, i remember two sets of pasts.
Yes, you read correctly, i remember what group A is saying, and i remember what group B is saying.

And so, let the understanding of multiple universes commence.
Science will just have to throw out their books and start anew,
on a new frontier.

Hi, builderofcastles. Nice to meet you. This is going to be fun.

> Well, unfortunately, you are incorrect, by a very obvious fact.

> Group A remembers it one way.
> Group B remembers it another way.

> If it was, like you stated, a lack of accurate memory, then there wouldn't be any groups, it would be a splatter graph around the "correct version".

The great majority of Mandela examples aren't in the format you just described. There are no groups. Instead, it's like this:

Step 1: Introduce a common misconception.
Step 2: Point out what will be found on verification.

1. Do you remember Berenstien Bears? 2. Berenstain Bears?

Alas, I remember it being not an easy word to pronounce, one that everyone seemed to correct me on no matter how I pronounced it.

> But, that is not the case.

As I've just pointed out, it's not the case as you just described. Did you just teleport in from another universe? lol

> That there is a very large group of people that distinctly remember something different is entirely out of probability that it was error.

Or that a specific monkeywrench is responsible for it. There's a metric assload of ways to screw with memory, but as with all things related to memory you can group the monkeywrenches according to the process they screw with: encoding, storage, and/or retrieval.

> Now, the stupid penny...

> Coins, to most people are meaningless chunks of metal.
> No one knows or cares what is on them.

The fact is that we humans aren't very observant as a whole. Most people don't study things to make sure we create an accurate mental representation.

> Further, the image you gave from the psyche book, several of the images are correct... as long as you weren't specific on the year. So, you are asking something only a numismatist would even know.

Only a coin specialist would know what a penny looks like? Is it too much to remember the placement of less than 10 words within a circle, especially given that pennies are extraordinarily common objects every one of has seen thousands of times?

Given that you have just admitted that you can't remember the details of something you've seen thousands of times, it's also logical to admit that your memory is terrible.

> Lastly, one more piece to disprove your suggestion that it is all a failure of memory.

> In many of these cases, i remember two sets of pasts.
> Yes, you read correctly, i remember what group A is saying, and i remember what group B is saying.

You can remember as many different ways as you like. It's not like there's a magnetic tape that stores a specific memory at a specific time and that is the only one true memory of any event you will ever have. With a bit of hypnosis, you can be made to remember that you were a knight that saved a beautiful princess, and also that you were the princess being saved.

> And so, let the understanding of multiple universes commence.
> Science will just have to throw out their books and start anew,
on a new frontier.

That'll teach your inaccurate preconception about "science!" You tell it like it is to your imagination! :)

:: imaginary high five :: yeah!

Thanks for ignoring what i said, belittling what i said, and just doing your best to tear down each line.

Your mind is made up, and you do not want to learn more about the universe from other people's perspectives.

I will tell you that EVERYTHING i LEARNED IN SCIENCE CLASS IS WRONG.
All of it.

So, who do you believe?
Newton, Einstein and some guy in a wheelchair or
Tesla, Kozyrev and Weber?

Choose one.

> Thanks for ignoring what i said, belittling what i said, and just doing your best to tear down each line.

I directly addressed everything you said. What you probably perceive as belittling isn't directed at you (most likely :) ). For example:

> That'll teach your inaccurate preconception about "science!" You tell it like it is to your imagination! :)

I'm more commenting on how people tend to personify this thing "science".

> Your mind is made up, and you do not want to learn more about the universe from other people's perspectives.

Your head is stuck up your .... in the clouds. I have no problem learning about other people's perspectives. In fact, that's how I learn more about people, as what someone believes says more about them than "the universe."

> I will tell you that EVERYTHING i LEARNED IN SCIENCE CLASS IS WRONG.
All of it.

Did you learn anything at all in science class? :) (couldn't resist.)

> So, who do you believe?
Newton, Einstein and some guy in a wheelchair or
Tesla, Kozyrev and Weber?

> Choose one.

I don't believe anything. I'm a reasoning kind a guy with a bent towards the pragmatic.

>> So, who do you believe?
>> Newton, Einstein and some guy in a wheelchair or
>> Tesla, Kozyrev and Weber?

>> Choose one.

> I don't believe anything. I'm a reasoning kind a guy with a bent towards the pragmatic.

I didn't ask what, i asked who.

So, here we have two groups of people, with opposing views on the universe.

The current colleges, teaching modern science, teach only one group, and never bring up the other.

One is based on observable facts, the other is based on facts that a select group in a government organizations "have verified".

Which have you chosen?

You seem to believe yourself that someone must believe some kind of authority. If you can't think outside of the "must believe someone secondhand" paradigm, then I'd say that I believe Richard Bandler, The Great Zimbardo, B.F. Skinner, William James, etc, etc. Keep in mind, though I'm only saying that because you are arrogantly forcing that frame.

I'll put it this way. People like me value FUNCTIONAL and PRACTICAL UNDERSTANDING. For example, the original Candid Camera show was a collaboration between Phillip Zimbardo and Peter Funk. This video is a great illustration of The Great Zimbardo's work..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgRoiTWkBHU

Notice how Zimbardo's application of social conformity doesn't require anyone to believe in it.

> The current colleges, teaching modern science, teach only one group, and never bring up the other.

I'm self-taught. Besides, in order to state this you must also believe that there's two competing ways to see the world, as if worldviews are something manufactured by other people and must be chosen "off the rack" as it were, at the same time completely discounting that anyone could think for themselves or that there's anything beyond mental masturbation.

It's worth noting that you also seem to believe that all of "science" is physics. Spoiler: it's not.

So, who do you believe?
Newton, Einstein and some guy in a wheelchair or
Tesla, Kozyrev and Weber?

Choose one.

Scroll up. There's another comment up there. Respond to it.

Do you know who Tesla, Kozyrev and Weber are?

I think I misfired a comment.