DLive was the first project that tried to follow DTube's ways that I didn't resteem. Why? Because they had a D in their name, but their website was centralized. They were (and still are) running a GraphQL database to serve all their content. They haven't ever used the trending or hot features of the steem blockchain. The only thing they used in the steem blockchain, was the rewards mechanism.
Then they took a community-made DTube logo (which we ended up not using), painted it purple, and called it their logo.
Then they begged for delegation, because they knew it was achievable after seeing other real decentralized projects getting it. And they got it, because in the end Ned doesn't care that something is decentralized, as long as it uses Steem for rewards... ok.
Then they started competing on the video market. That was a particular dick move because video upload was already possible on steem. Oh and of course they decided to put the fees at the extreme minimum of 0%, just like furion did with his view.ly shitapp when I released DTube. The idea behind that, is that of course this way you grab more users, and you can make other apps that try to generate revenue from their work look bad.
Then they started paying their 'staff', which were all recruited from the steem community. Some devs coded for them, some marketers did marketing, and all were paid out of the delegation... I have no idea how much money that represents, maybe some of the people who worked for them can enlighten me?
Then they added more centralized tools. Facebook login, Google analytics, and much more. They tracked you, while giving your data to big corps, and perfected their marketing techniques until you believed their lies good enough.
Then they started collecting your emails, with the innocent excuse that they want to alert you when a new stream that you follow starts. And you gave them your emails. And now you're getting spammed.
Then they quit the STEEM blockchain, so now I can finally make a ragepost about their project without looking like a greedy competitor who is mad about the turn of events.
Now, the truth has been revealed. We know that DLive has always been part of a larger project called LINO, which got funded in Febuary 2018 for $20,000,000 USD by a Chinese investment fund, on the concept of making a 'decentralized youtube'. Rings a bell?
So it all makes sense. They weren't trying to make money and pay for servers, or hire a team, and build a project. They already had all that. What they wanted to grab out of STEEM, was a community, while testing and building their UI. They already had $20M in bank, and slaved good-willed STEEM users to work for them for upvotes. They deceived Ned by making him think they needed money when what they wanted was attention. Their plan was to leave Steem, since the start of their project. They even said:
Our experimental simulation on the Steem blockchain
in March 2018 in the lino official blog, as if they were having good fun with it.
Now, I'm not sure if this post will get a lot of visibility or not, but tell me guys, why did you trust these liars despite all the warnings the good users gave you? Why did you work for them for upvotes? Why do you believe any lie you see? Because you are GREEDY.
You are all crying now because your dear DLive is going to their token after having provenly raped and lied to the STEEM economy for months. But as usual, you should just have listened to the same people who have been doing good and promoting STEEM, not a few random chinamen who registered 1 week before publishing their project, and who hadn't done anything before that.
I'm glad that this cancer is off of STEEM, but sadly the bigger cancer is still there, and they will keep on lying to you and promoting shitty projects. If you don't feel confident in your judgement, and if you used DLive in the past especially, here are the recommended steps to avoid getting used by the manipulators inside this network:
- Follow your friends and people you truly appreciate reading or watching videos of
- Follow me (should already be done if you followed first step)
- Use the feed (its the steem homepage if you are logged in)
- Never click Trending/New/Hot/Promoted categories
- Dont ever go on the profile of a user you do not trust
- Mute all the bots from the comments
Bonus content:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492495023091220482/492508604918661132/UmAj31.png
If you upvoted this comment of mine, I'm sorry I ruined your DLiver career :D
Update content:
Few hours after this post was published, someone started sending scam emails to random people pretending to be noreply@d.tube, trying to sell life insurance stuff (??). DTube will never send automated emails to you, we only use the @d.tube emails for business emails between our staff and partners. Also we can't even send you emails because we don't know what are your emails, and we don't want to know.
It's very likely that they are doing that after reading up on my post which analyzes and details their full intent and premeditation of their scam from the start. Being the script kiddies they are, they didn't find a better way to annoy me.
I don't know if you blame us for this but I'm starting to get used with anonsteem accounts talking about our delegation...
So I could say sorry for working 18h per day to create value on Steem and getting rewarded like 80$ per week to survive..., when a normal company would pay me 10k per month, but I really prefer to say that :
Can you give me any alternative? Because I searched for it for a long time, and until we find investment or release an app with an economic model (which is on the way), I dont see too much possibilities.... except taking fees on our Founders.. which is pretty the same problem in my idea, since most of them are for the benefit of Steem too. Why all witnesses are not helping to do that? That's also a good question. Except some guy like ausbitbank they are just taking benefit of Steem without doing anything or helping others... and I don't know now how much produce a witness in the top but I'm pretty sure that he get more Steem per week than the whole Fundition team....
As I said we have many projects on road, not only Fundition, you can check them here https://steemit.com/steemit/@futureshock/futureshock-and-steem-the-future-is-yours and most of them have a big potential but unfortunately, even if we are allways looking for sponsors and investors, finding them takes much more time than expected... and mostly because a simple conference cost in average 2000$. If not you can be sure that I do my best to get in and promote Steem and our projects to everyone in a good way ;) By the way if you pass in Strasbourg (France) the 10 October you can see that in live.
https://www.meetup.com/Crypto-Alsace/events/254829756
And if today we are taking benefit of the reward pool with our self-upvotes, same stake holders should think about who's creating value over Steem, why they are doing it, and with which mind. We do it as an incubator, and I believe by creating useful apps and free tools for everyone. While there is many ways to take benefit of that "pool" we prefered to choose transparency with our rewarding system. Btw like unother app, I can say that we never cheated with upvotes and voted "our friends", we mostly did only useful and logical things (at least in my opinion) while in our team, we do weekly report to ensure an equality of work/reward. And the last thing that I can say is even the guy who receive only 1 upvote per week in our team is doing 10x more work than he get paid, for the health of this blockchain, because FutureShock is building non-stop and Fundition is helping many other platforms to grow or to become alive.
So I can totaly understand what you say, since I took many time to think about that system before doing it, and the only thing that I can ask from people is to trust in our work. And if not, I suggest them to downvote our commentaries, that's how Steem works.
Because even if Steemit Inc. did a misstake this time too, most of DApps which are supported by them are still used by many stemians and became an habbit for them. DLive is a pity case and as an old Dtube dev I really wish to see the platform getting developed and taking back its place.
Finaly, everything would be different if we had some real support from most of stakeholders instead of suspicious commentaries, because some of us are willing to improve steem... everyone is not holding 20M$ and planning to move somewhere else ;)
First of all thank you for your article @heimindanger
I'll try to share with you my position on DTube and DLive, then you do what you want with it but know that I'll be honest in my comments.
Personally I love DTube, the interface is clear and similar to Youtube which is good to try to get out of the very GAFAM YouTube :)
Well on the other hand there is something wrong and that's why I only posted one video and this to have my own opinion. A large majority of the videos on DTube do not load, they are infinite loads it is VERY frustrating, there are so many exclusive videos that I would have liked to see unfortunately they lost it forever. It is sad to destroy the content of authors, they spend a lot of time there, it is not to "erase" them.
So yes personally although I prefer DTube, I post the majority of my videos on DLive because at least low of the time they were there our videos FUNCTIONAL and this in a sustainable way.
Now, always in the spirit of transparency with you, I will react to your comments.
"Now, I'm not sure if this post will get a lot of visibility or not, but tell me guys, why did you trust these liars despite all the warnings the good users gave you? Why did you work for them for upvotes? Why do you believe any lie you see? Because you are GREEDY."
So as I told you above, it's the fact that the videos that some people probably spend hours or tens of hours creating are non-functional, a bit like when Youtube blocks videos. So we should think together to ensure that NEVER content is DEATH out of respect for the author.
"If you don't feel confident in your judgement, and if you used DLive in the past especially, here are the recommended steps to avoid getting used by the manipulators inside this network:"
"Never click Trending/New/Hot/Promoted categories"
Including New in it is like attacking newcomers and ignoring them, I find it despicable when we know that motivated creators no longer post because they feel ignored despite the quality of their posts. But then, if no one goes to New anymore, how will the new ones get hearing?
That's it, I shared my feelings at the time, I did it on the spot with emotion, but the intention is there.
In any case I don't think the Steemians follow DLive, for my part they can go fuck themselves:)
Sorry for my english, sometimes I have to translate some things that I don't really know how to explain or understand.
