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Bounty 20 Steem: Should we fix SBD?

BY: @knircky | CREATED: March 12, 2018, 3:28 p.m. | VOTES: 1126 | PAYOUT: $421.27 | [ VOTE ]

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I've been thinking about SBD lately and how we should deal with it. Clearly the intention in the white paper of a stable currency that reflects the USD price is not working.

As a recap directly from the white paper:

"....Steem Dollars were designed as an attempt to bring stability to the world of cryptocurrency and to the individuals who use the Steem network....."

Assumption

So I am going forward with the assumption that SBD is to be a
- Stable currency, pegged to some other currency (in this case the USD)
- The purpose of such is to protect users from price fluctuations (i.e. money earned should not have to be sold to protect its value)
- there is a bigger vision for steem than just blogging and SBD are to be useful as cryptocurrency to entire industry and not just steem content creators

A design flaw that makes everyone money

There has been quite some debate about SBD on Steem in the past and it will likely be hard to change anything at this moment.

The reason is that any price of SBD above the $1 brings value into the ecosystem, without any direct cost (other than the loss of SBD utility). Everyone that gets any sort of rewards in SBD has been overpaid dramatically. Specifically content creators have had their rewards multiply.

This money basically is coming from the market. As people on the market overpay for SBD people who earn and sell SBD benefit. So in a way this is free money flowing into the Steem ecosystem paid for by traders/investors. That makes steem grow at no cost. No wonder everyone loves this idea.

High SBD is good short term and bad long term

Because the value that is flowing into steem from the high price of SBD is really good for content creators this is really good for growth of new users and keeping existing users active. it also helps with wealth distribution. So this is simply fantastic.

In the longterm however the objective of SBDs is stability and without it they have no utility. Even worse the advantages that they are supposed to bring are not available to users. So while the there seems to be no cost for not having working SBDs there clearly is one. It is just not as noticeable in the short term, while the advantages of high sbd price is clearly felt by everyone. Immediately.

But imagine how great it would be if you could trust that SBD's are stable and one could use it to park value. Essentially the entire value of TUSD could be captured by SBD and flow into steem. If that were the case the steem blockchain would be more than twice as valuable.

Fix it in the long term and in a way that increases the price of steem

So I would suggest to let SBD go on as it has right now until its value comes down to its peg or at least close. Then however I would suggest to fix the design flaw that it has and make sure a volatile SBD price cannot happen again.

Allow people to create SBD

One of the great things of Steem and SBD is that the debt ratio can never be more than 10%. As such there is no problem creating unlimited amount of SBD. Therefore we can come up with a solution like @timcliff suggested

How this would increase the value of steem

If the utility of SBD would create lots of demand for it, the price of steem would increase. At first price of SBD would go up, this would then trigger arbitrage opportunities, which would increase demand for steem, which then would increase the price of steem.

Imagine the entire crypto market using steem as stable currency instead of USD, this would catapult the price of steem. I think the value of a stable currency is still vastly understated by most people in the space. In the end no cryptocurrency is money or currency as the most important attribute of such (that most often is omitted) is stable value. As such steem could be the only real currency in the space, if only we would get it right.

I think it is better to fix a faulty design than to forget a good vision. SBD are essential for making steem more than just a simple blogging site but a whole financial system that can change the world. In order for that we need working SBD.

Bounty

I am sure many of you will have interesting ideas about this so I look forward to your thoughts. In order to encourage you to share them I have put a 20 Steem bounty on this post, which will be shared among the top level comments, depending on how much upvotes you will get from me (80%) and from the community (20%).

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Replies

@steem-bounty | March 12, 2018, 3:30 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

A bounty of 20.000 STEEM has been set on this post by @knircky!

@shahidalikhan | March 13, 2018, 11:27 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I cannot help but appreciate your content. I am new in the community, and I will apply the information you've shared.
I also read an article about the principles on how to be successful in Steemit. First, is to create a content that adds value to other people lives. It's your personal perspective. It should be Authentic, honest, open and sincere. . Second, It is a network with like minded creators so that you can work together and what was that enable you to do? It enables you to create content that adds value to other people's lives and so we have this positive feedback loop and follows and upvotes which are basically SBD. In my opinion, If you pursue this two principles that will help you become successful in Steemit.

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:13 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Stop pasting this everywhere you moron. You are sucking up to a bot you goddamn idiot.

@kongen | March 13, 2018, 2:26 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

okay.. im ready for it! :D

@hanief | March 12, 2018, 3:33 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Honestly I have no idea about this. Sorry about that. Though I want it climb right now, I want to power up steem

@drayhazz | March 12, 2018, 3:35 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

> This money basically is coming from the market. As people on the market overpay for SBD people who earn and sell SBD benefit. So in a way this is free money flowing into the Steem ecosystem paid for by traders/investors. That makes steem grow at no cost. No wonder everyone loves this idea

Could this be the reason why SBD as fall apart lately?

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 4:02 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@moniristi | March 12, 2018, 3:36 p.m. | Votes: 7 | [ VOTE ]

Having the SBD price high is a huge benefit for authors, a huge opportunity for visibility on exchanges, and consistently puts buying pressure on Steem which is very good for all of us. We might be unwise to try and force the price down because "we think it should be lower" while most of our community is very excited to be where it is. After reading this post I am going to ask both witnesses biasing feeds to remove the bias.

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:44 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@dobartim | March 12, 2018, 3:37 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@rejoiceavl | March 12, 2018, 3:37 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

The price of sbd is not stable lately, I agree with you, we should fix sbd.

@shihabieee | March 12, 2018, 3:38 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

exact same thing has happened to me their wallet was on maintenance they had temp disabled deposit/withdraw but then later or warning went away and they were accepting deposits on SBD so i went ahead an deposited by SBD to poloniex and boom they just like forgot about and and funny thing is they actually now have auto response to u saying wallet is under maintenance if it is then why have they allowed the deposit in first place?
secondly i can clearly see the transactions happening in their wallet both in and out and even some SBD were sent to others from poloniex so what is it? as far as i know if wallet is under maintenance it should not be used right?
i have a whole post written about it check it out if u can with pictures and stuff! thanks. goodluck to you and me both lol

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:15 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

What the fuck are you talking about? This is totally irrelevant.

Are you on drugs?

@travellingwomen | March 12, 2018, 3:40 p.m. | Votes: 7 | [ VOTE ]

I strongly agree with you and thanks for informing I already think about this that where this money is come from so you explain it well I appereciate you you confrm about my this question and i agree with you that the real way to increase the value of STEEM you explained it well
I also appereciate and agree with you that Fix it in the long term and in a way that increases the price of steem
So I would suggest to let SBD go on as it has right now until its value comes down to its peg or at least close. Then however I would suggest to fix the design flaw that it has and make sure a volatile SBD price cannot happen again.

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:07 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Have you ever considered the use of the period?

It is a very friendly piece of punctuation.

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:31 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@shishiristi | March 12, 2018, 3:40 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

SBD must have to be stable. We have steem that is not stable.

Why don't we do something that will increase the steem price

It's a pure game of supply and demand, that will increase or decrease the price. You have pointed that by collateraling steem we can increase steem price.

@hafez | March 12, 2018, 3:42 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Good point you are making. Yet I think the amount SBD in circulation is in fact what is needed to create all the steem and steem power. The lack of SBD maybe because most are in steem power, not steem. Therefore it is not possible to move steem into SBD or else its making a collateral on top of another collateral. I can be totally wrong on this. Your thoughts?

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@trendo | March 12, 2018, 3:43 p.m. | Votes: 8 | [ VOTE ]

Yes, the higher SBD price is definitely great for content creators and it's making this blockchain much more popular, I'm sure of it. But I see that it's not doing us any good in the long run. I think it's best if we wait until SBD comes down to 1$ on it's on, and when this happenes, it's time to fix it and make sure it never goes up like that again.

Sure, it's nice to have those big rewards. But it's always better to go with the long-term plan that will make this blockchain the best one there is!

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:31 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@aflatunnisa | March 12, 2018, 3:47 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

I agree with you, how SBD are actually created. Let's think this through:
SBD price goes down further
People start to use "convert" instead of selling into the market
A week later, they get STEEM
Steem are sold
The market cap of Steem goes down
Less SBD are created from posts (because the market cap went down)
Less sell pressure due to SBD sell-off and convertion due to less amounts available
Meanwhile people start to understand the implications of SBD (free instant micropayments, interest)
Buy Pressure for SBD starts to build up again
Meanwhile the network grows and demand for SP grows aswell
People buy into Steem to get SteemPower to obtain more VotingPower and higher rewards
Marketcap rises
Rinse and repeat until sufficient market traction slows down the process

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 4:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@bibby | March 12, 2018, 3:50 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

>I think it is better to fix a faulty design than to forget a good vision. SBD are essential for making steem more than just a simple blogging site but a whole financial system that can change the world. In order for that we need working SBD.

I think the best way to grow the SBD value is to grow the steemit community. If we grow the networks of people on the steemit community we will invariably have a better value for SBD @knircky.

@brettcalloway | March 12, 2018, 3:58 p.m. | Votes: 29 | [ VOTE ]

I can see how a stable SBD would attract resources that just want to be parked for a period of time without the extreme volatility. The crypto market is in desperate need of more stable options for sure. But, is stability the unique mechanism the STEEM ecosystem is trying to offer? For me, I don’t think so. Cash flow is STEEMs unique mechanism. Selling dreams of cash flow is much more attractive in my opinion then stability. I didn’t get into crypto for stable prices. I got into it for big gains and cash flow. The way the SBD is currently “broken” creates the most amazing opportunity for income growth I’ve ever seen. To change this and opt for stability would be a huge mistake from where I’m sitting today. Over time my mind may change, but for now I want the highest levels of cash flow possible without much weight being put on stability. Thanks for the post and getting this important conversation started! Resteem

@zohraka | March 13, 2018, 9:56 a.m. | Votes: 8 | [ VOTE ]

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@sunnyofoz | March 13, 2018, 10:52 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

It takes time . You have to keep reading and studying.

@bosslui | March 13, 2018, 11:50 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@yost69 | March 13, 2018, 1:53 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@solmama | March 14, 2018, 12:33 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@yost69 | March 14, 2018, 12:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@itraaj | March 14, 2018, 1:24 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@squallzz | March 13, 2018, 2:35 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

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@jassennessaj | March 13, 2018, 3:20 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Correct. We're still at our infancy stage for me and we need more and more sustainable income. If steem attracts more people joining the platform (including big whales/players), then that's the time a fork or change needs to happen.

@prlndra | March 13, 2018, 4:46 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

So I'm admittedly new. But why would new people on the platform mean needing some sort of change? Maybe a better question of why specifically a fork or other change in case of growth?

@idmi | March 13, 2018, 11:58 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

This comment right here. The two trails of thought I'm seeing sum up cryptocurrencies perfectly atm. On the one hand we have those seeking a useful tool (a stable currency), and on the other we get those looking for the next big thing in investment. This is why the chaos we have coming from so many different currencies is actually a really good thing - just like with many other things, there is not one method to suit everybody, so I'm just glad that we do have so many (in time the ones with true value will stick around). In the context of Steem, however, it would make sense for SBD to have a stable price - this would boost the price of Steem greatly over time (and, I imagine, quite reliably because, as it's been said, stability is a genuinely useful commodity that we need in the crypto market), and in this way benefit both investors (those looking into Steem could simply invest and know safely that their investment will grow as more people join this genuinely great website) as well as those looking for that stability to make sure that the money they spent a week ago doesn't suddenly become worth all of what they own now or anything like that. Just my thoughts as a crypto newbie :3

@theorealist | March 14, 2018, 4:42 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I'm new to steemit, and steem in general, like some of the commenters below. I read this post and replies with interest, and I appreciate the reasoned discussion from both points of view. I don't yet have a good enough understanding the system to have an opinion, but hope to be able to offer useful input soon.

Thanks for your work in developing this community!

@elite.skeete | March 14, 2018, 12:36 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Well put Brett! I was going to put in my 2 cents about this but you have taken the words right out of my mouth so all I will say is... Ditto!

@neddykelly | March 14, 2018, 1:17 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nicely said Brett I'm agreeing with you

@tikafadilla | March 14, 2018, 1:39 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I totally agree with your opinion👏👍

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 1:46 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Forcing the peg back is anti-free-market and pro-regulation. It's everything crypto is against.

Witnesses arguing for a repeg should be unvoted. They are literally attacking your wallet while printing 100+ Steem a day.

@dimagogroup | March 19, 2018, 11:39 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@darth-azrael | March 12, 2018, 3:58 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

I don't think there is anything wrong with SBD. Given the ratios rewarded in the 50/50 split, this is a self correcting problem. It may take a while but it will correct itself. In any investment when the number of investors are relatively limited (like with steem/sbd) there will be volatility. It's unavoidable but will also be self correcting if and when the community is large enough. There is already a market for buying and selling sbd built right into steemit.

It isn't clear to my why SBD rose so much in value but I suspect it happened in large part due to the fact that it was generally encouraged that people power up 100% instead of taking the 50/50 split. Maybe then the "fix" is simply to not even allow this as an option? If users want steem for their SBD then they have to use the currency market to convert it. More SBD means a lower price for each SBD after all...

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:08 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]
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@eroche | March 12, 2018, 4:04 p.m. | Votes: 19 | [ VOTE ]

I am in favour of a pegged SBD asset and exploring alternative proposals for achieving this peg. I welcome your proposal for further discussion and it may be a solution but there are some risks and additional dependency on Witnesses which I think adds an extra burden on the system.

Existing Mechanism

My understanding of the current mechanism is
* Witnesses only need to intervene when the value of the SBD is below the 1 dollar peg. They intervene by increasing the interest rate payable for holding SBD.
* If SBD goes above the peg the market will (in theory) drive down the price of SBD as it makes rational sense that more SBD will be printed so that people active posting on Steem/it will choose the SBD option and increase the level of SBD in existence.
By market law of supply and demand will drive down the price.

This second part of the stability mechanism is what is not working at the moment. In my view the reason this is not working is because the supply of SBD is so small at the moment. i.e. Liquidity is the issue.
The current design should work if there is better communication over the design as well as more liquidity in the market. The latter will come in time if nothing is done now. The former we can be proactive on.

> the objective of SBDs is stability and without it they have no utility

I completely agree with this statement and if the decision is to not in any way maintain a peg, or seek to maintain a peg, or change the peg then SBD has no utility. If that is the case what is the point of it all and should it be removed from the protocol?

The proposal you have outlined carries with it some risks and puts more control in the hands of witnesses, in particular over what to do with the SBD. Burn it etc. Is this an extra burden that is being put on witnesses shoulders?

At the root of the issue here seems to me to be a lack of understanding of what SBD is in the community at large and what the long term goal for it is. I would like to see consensus achieved on what SBD is and what its purpose is before tackling the question of how to fix it.
* Is it a speculative asset?
* Is it a counterparty free pegged asset?
* Is it a mechanism for varying the amount of liquid rewards paid out via the reward pool?
* Is it a mechanism for inflating the Reward Pool (Dollar Value) on an ad hoc basis?
* Is it a tool for bringing in dollar investment from unknowing people on 3rd party exchanges?

Before we get answers to some of these questions and achieve consens on what it is intended for the path forward is not clear.

Just one last point I would like to add to the conversation

> The reason is that any price of SBD above the $1 brings value into the ecosystem, without any direct cost

This is the view of the majority of people who I have seen discussing this on Steemit but I would make the case that there is a direct cost. The current lack of a peg allows people to extract a larger proportion of the dollar value of the post payouts in liquid assets immediately. i.e. the payout effectively is no longer 50:50. I see this lock in of value for a period as a huge asset to Steem and a major design strength. Of course if people power up their rewards it doesn't matter.

@kkkkkl | March 13, 2018, 11:32 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

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@solmama | March 14, 2018, 12:43 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@writesbackwards | March 13, 2018, 1:07 p.m. | Votes: 11 | [ VOTE ]

Is this something we should really leave to witnesses? Can the blockchain not handle what is needed without their intervention?

@shuvosarker24 | March 13, 2018, 3:08 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@yost69 | March 13, 2018, 1:51 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@cryptotax | March 13, 2018, 2:18 p.m. | Votes: 8 | [ VOTE ]

This was a good read.

Let me lead with - I wouldn't use a silver dollar at McDonald's on the dollar menu because, even though the tender is intended to represent $1 USD, the melt value is much higher.

It's worth nothing, upvote bots may have some role in lack of pegging to $1 USD. By sending 1 SBD to a upvote bot, the return right now is approximately 1 SBD + $ 1 USD worth of SP under a stable value scenario (before curation's cut). The reality is of course, there is a likelihood of ending up with less SBD than sent to the bot originally, this is due to fluctuations in market price during the seven day period and timing of when upvote bot lands on the post. However, when I use these services, there is some reasonable expectation of receiving most of my SBD back under stable 7-day value, receiving some Steem, and the value of inherent post promotion.

Let me know if you agree or disagree, but it seems like pegging the USD value would be difficult when the upvote bot rate of return on 1 SBD is so attractive.

@millz | March 13, 2018, 6:03 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I agree with this~

While I do like pegging it. I also like the returns from bots, even if its just for the SP.

@luck21888 | March 14, 2018, 4:28 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@eroche | March 14, 2018, 12:02 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

The value can go up or down and your taking a risk when you you use an upvote bot. So even if todays value gives you return of $1 you may or may not get that and the one dollar is the fair reward you get for taking a risk. I see this is a slightly different phenomenon than the pegging of the SBD asset.

I agree that voting bots have a role to play in the pegging issue but I don't see them as a cause. People are exploiting the voting bots to maximise how much they can extract in daily rewards from the $ denominated reward pool.

@cryptotax | March 14, 2018, 1:59 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the perspective.

@shuvosarker24 | March 13, 2018, 3:08 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

very help full post . https://steemit.com/altcoins/@shuvosarker24/goldman-sachs-bitcoin-has-potential-to-drop-below-february-low-of-usd5-922

@davidike | March 13, 2018, 5:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Very nice point of view sir

@steemingmark | March 13, 2018, 6:43 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

down side is when steem goes down so does you post value!!

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@batmanvenezolano | March 13, 2018, 9:51 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

un entretenido aporte

@jerry2007 | March 13, 2018, 10:04 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

uwu

@bitcointip | March 13, 2018, 10:25 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I am very glad you are talking about this because I believe your voice is likely to be heard. I know others have talked about this in the past, but I don't see this being taken as seriously as I would like it to be.

@geekorner | March 14, 2018, 6:16 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Witnesses don't have to do anything when SBD is below $1 USD, because you can just trade it within the system for $1 worth of Steem. They currently disabled the system because people were using it to lose SBD/Steem...

@knircky | March 14, 2018, 7:37 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

In addition to the cost you outline, which i agree with is the non function sbd and therefore lack of its utility. Again I feel this could be a 1b fuckup at the moment but likely even much higher. What do u think is the value of a stable currency in a 400b market?

@eroche | March 14, 2018, 12:13 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Not sure I follow the question exactly but this graph shows the daily Volume across different coins with market cap gt 1bn

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*full size image

The big blue dot in the middle is the daily volume on USDT which clearly shows a large appetite for a pegged asset.

The issue with SBD is the market cap is around 30m with a daily volume of close to 10m (today). I wouldn't me surprised if it was just downright manipulation keeping the price high. Steem volume (the underlying asset has a 14 million daily volume, that doesn't add up). If SBD had a market cap in the 100s of millions then I am speculating that it would be more stable. But it's never going to have this until we have some way of trading it outside of the Steem System. We need wallets and ways to spend it.

At the moment part of its utility is supposed to be as a trade-able liquid asset but you can only spend it on Steemit with the exception of using it to speculate on exchanges.

@underground | March 14, 2018, 2:34 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

You have a much better grasp of the Facts of the Matter than the writer of this article. UV ;)
Here's what I added in my buried comment way down there LOL
> measures that ARE being carried out to "normalize" the SBD prices. I started watching this in mid December of 17 and the SBD in circulation was roughly 6 million units. It is approaching 11 million now. Steemit INC is inflating the SBD supply. Clearly the rate of inflation has been accelerated, nearly Doubling the supply in the last 3-4 months is an increase over what was done in the first 2 years. So STINC (steemit-inc) IS doing something about it.

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 1:52 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Again, you do not understand how SBD works. SBD inflates NORMALLY, nobody is "doing something about it." You're just seeing the payouts from new posts, derp.

@underground | March 15, 2018, 2:18 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

What's with the derogatory statements? I'll be the better man here and let you take the low road, I have other points to take you to task on. Below...

@prameshtyagi | March 15, 2018, 2:41 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

U are more knowledgeable than the author of the post. I agree with u more than author. There is no need to change anything. Design is perfect - market forces will make it correct.

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 1:52 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

"This second part of the stability mechanism is what is not working at the moment."

ORLY???

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Do you normally ignore facts before posting? Or is this a special case as you have some agenda?

"SBD has no utility"

Except allowing us to cash out from posts without waiting 13 weeks. Just that tiny little utility.

"I see this lock in of value for a period as a huge asset to Steem and a major design strength."

Oh, well, there's your problem. You like market controls and think an asset that forces you to wait 13 weeks isn't screaming from the rooftops how weak it is because it literally needs to FORCE YOU TO HOLD IT.

@eroche | March 15, 2018, 2:32 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

SBD is going to 0?

For the record I have no agenda other than promoting the growth of Steem.

@underground | March 15, 2018, 7:49 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You are taking him almost completely out of context with the "SBD has no utility" pejorative... Here's the context:
> | the objective of SBDs is stability and without it they have no utility
I completely agree with this statement and if the decision is to not in any way maintain a peg, or seek to maintain a peg, or change the peg THEN SBD has no utility. If that is the case what is the point of it all and should it be removed from the protocol?

That entirety changes it all up, but you do make a good point about "not needing to power down" which is a 13 week process. If we dispense with SBD and "the peg" to U$D then our 50/50 could be Steem and SP I suppose.

@knircky | March 16, 2018, 12:51 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Steem provides this utility. Ie if there is too much SBD in circulation the blockchain pays rewards in SP and STEEM. So that is not a utility of SBD. What SBD provides right now when it trades above $1 is higher rewards. But the intended utility of sbd is non existent when the peg is not working.

@underground | March 16, 2018, 1:05 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Agreed, but I still think that the embedded market control system of SBD issuance is slowly bringing about the "peg" that would show STEEM is a stable and marketable cryptocurrency. The ballooning supply of SBD is bringing down prices faster than any other moves and as explained by your boi @lexicomical, this is simply from the higher post rewards. Looks to me that the system is working rather well. I'd just be interested to find out if this is by original design or a result of HF19 or a prior hardfork.
@knircky

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@weirdgoose | March 12, 2018, 4:05 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

To truly create a stable currency, SBD included, it needs to be backed by something or multiple somethings that are stable...more stable than USD. If SBDs were backed by a portfolio of gold, silver, Carbon, Bronze, oil and other natural resources across the globe it would be stable and could be used as global store of value. The systems holding it would also need to be secure (NO HACKING!), easy to use and accessible by all.

@upcyclist | March 13, 2018, 6:31 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

> ...it needs to be backed by something or multiple somethings that are stable

Ding ding ding! An asset will not have stable value just because you want it to be stable.

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:29 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@soan55 | March 12, 2018, 4:07 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

I am officially offering a 500+ SBD bounty. The 500 SBD is a set amount that will come from my own wallet. The "+" is because once this idea becomes reality, I will do a promo post about the tool and give all the liquid SBD/STEEM from the post payout to the creator of the resource.

@thabiggdogg | March 13, 2018, 8:28 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@millz | March 14, 2018, 12:32 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Ok, Go on. . . . :D

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

What the fuck does this have to do with anything?

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@masud91 | March 12, 2018, 4:08 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Really make a steady cash, SBD included, it should be sponsored by something or different somethings that are stable...more stable the USD. In the event that SBDs were supported by an arrangement of gold, silver, Carbon, Bronze, oil and different assets over the globe it would be steady and could be utilized as worldwide store of significant worth.

@masud91 | March 12, 2018, 4:13 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

50 STEEM bounty

Very few participants for now for the 50 STEEM bounty! If you think you can successfully help me attract new users to the extension, please write your proposal in the comments of this post.

Overview of features
Available on Steemit and Busy
Voting slider for minnows (you do not need to vote at 100% anymore!)
True value of your account on your wallet (calculated with current SBD and STEEM market prices)
Delegation button in your wallet (with list of delegatees and undelegate button)
One click switch between Steemit and Busy (Shift+Alt+B) and Steemit and Steemd (Ctrl+Alt+D)
Available on Steemit (and mspsteem)
Feed+ : Filter your feed by tags, resteems (hide, show, blacklist, whitelist), reputation and sort it by upvotes/date/payout
STEEM/USD and SBD/USD values in the user dropdown
Option to add beneficiaries to your post (you can say that 10% of your post payout will go to one of your friends for example)
Cool badges on user profiles show their rank: Plankton, Minnow, Dolphin, Orca and Whales

@crypto-punks | March 14, 2018, 12:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

These are interesting UX changes. I'm a bit concerned about reputation filter, because it can increase a gap between whales and newcomers and de-motivate new authors, but other changes seem great.

When and how are you planning to implement these features?

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Fuck off with your off-topic spam.

@jerrybanfields | March 12, 2018, 4:16 p.m. | Votes: 9 | [ VOTE ]

You might remember our post announcing a huge 20 steem bounty for what seemed like a little, easy to fix bug. Many people suggested to use multi threading to deal with discord. py API's problems, and while I was hard at work trying to make it happen, someone submitted a pull request with a much easier, better fix, which also made the bot much faster.
It was no other than @mys with his contribution that handled the issue by... refusing to use python-steem API. Turns out, all of the big websites ditch JS, Python and PHP APIs in favor of api.steemit.com. He made use of that, and with a simple json request use made the bot not only magnitudes faster, but fixed the infamous freeze that was stopping SockoBot from ever being deployed to big Discord servers. This solution (along with a new look for our response message you can see above!) has now been merged into the project and is the official solution to the issue.

@mys | March 12, 2018, 5:17 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Thank You for remembering me!
That was about 3 months age when all the python-based bots just stopped working.. Sometimes it is better to search for an alternative than trying to workaround bugged part :/

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:07 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

What the hell does this have to do with anything, you fake-accounting ID thief?

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@jerrybanfields | March 21, 2018, 4:42 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

thank you sir

@tts | March 12, 2018, 4:22 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

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@manoloeldelbombo | March 14, 2018, 10:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Really useful!
Is there a way to call it any post?

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@remlaps | March 12, 2018, 4:56 p.m. | Votes: 9 | [ VOTE ]

I don't disagree with your proposal for addressing it, but I would add that even in the short term, it seems to me that the only stakeholders who really benefit from high SBD prices are authors. I think other stakeholders are harmed in both the short and long term. I wrote about it from a stakeholder perspective a few months ago: About those high SBD prices.

Two questions that no one seems to be asking:

i. Does restoring the SBD peg reduce the whale self-voting/voting-clique problem?

ii. For a healthy platform, what are the desired ratios of voters/authors, investors/authors, and even readers/authors?

Authors are the ones with the megaphones, so these discussions usually assume that every Steem user is an author, but is that really the way the platform works best? It seems to me that the platform would be healthier with many more voters, and investors than authors (who have the smallest incentive to hold steem). The high SBD price does nothing to encourage that dynamic.

@s2000 | March 14, 2018, 7:47 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Correct me if I'm wrong but is this platform's Intention to be used as simply another form of open and free social media? If so then it is in the hands and interests of all users to Inherently become authors by Posting content they find meaningful and being rewarded for doing so. Given the underlying intention of creating a community of meaningful content via rewards.

Refocusing on the intensions of the coin produced and witnessed on this block chain network, If it has been define as a stability seeking method should be not strive to maintain that original purpose?

@remlaps | March 14, 2018, 3:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This is in the whitepaper (page 27):
https://steemitimages.com/DQmQvXv4nyF2auQiJa91H5ZJFtk5TdeNet4cynFjBucjR1n/image.png

So yes, anyone can earn rewards by posting content, but voters are needed too, and you need many votes per post (on average) to achieve effective curation. High SBD prices tip the balance in the opposite direction, reducing the relative value of voting, since curation rewards are paid in SP.

And yes, if I understand you, I agree with your second point. SBDs were designed with one purpose in mind, to have a stable value. If they're not doing that, then they are failing.

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 1:56 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

The whitepaper also has 52+ week power downs and exponential whale voting.

The repeated appeals to it are fallacious appeals to authority.

@remlaps | March 16, 2018, 2:32 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

> The whitepaper also has 52+ week power downs and exponential whale voting.

Actually, it doesn't. The copy I pulled that from was rewritten last year to match the current state of the block chain. The link is here - https://steem.io/SteemWhitePaper.pdf

And it says:
> Users are able to commit their STEEM to a thirteen week vesting schedule, providing them with additional benefits within the platform. STEEM that has been committed to a thirteen week vesting schedule is called Steem Power (SP).

And
> When users vote on content, their influence over the distribution of the rewards pool is directly proportional to the amount of SP that they have.

And even if it had been obsolete, that wouldn't change the thrust of my comment which is that high SBD prices incentivize authors at the expense of voters and other stakeholders in a way that discourages quality content discovery.

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@tangerinetravels | March 12, 2018, 5:36 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

The system as a whole is still very young. I think we've experienced more time when SBD has been trading below $1.00 than above and I suspect that we will see it go back down to the $1.00 level again.

Until systems are widely used and markets are extremely mature, I think you'll see a ton of price volatility.

We could introduce something like you mentioned that allows for arbitrage opportunities not only from SBD to Steem, but also from Steem to SBD. Providing these arbitrage mechanisms won't keep the price exactly at $1.00, but it will probably be +/-10% of that almost all of the time.

Having a stable currency could provide a huge long-term boost for the Steem price as merchants and communities around the globe adopt it. However, I still find myself in the category of let's just let it be and see what happens.

I think we should let it play out for a few years and see what happens.

@pagli | March 12, 2018, 5:41 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Sure, it's nice to have those big rewards. But it's always better to go with the long-term plan that will make this blockchain the best one there is!@knircky

@lordzugg | March 12, 2018, 6:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Do we need like steem tokens that can never increase in value?
Alot to think about in this post, no easy answer.
Thanks for posting

@uwelang | March 12, 2018, 6:36 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Du musst mir nochmal Details zu Eurer Witness verraten offline. Thema ist wichtig - SBD peg langfristig. Hätte gerne nur einen kleinen Mega Pump kurzfristig und dann runter auf 1$

@biruplastik | March 12, 2018, 7:05 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I come from a country whose culture is a belief is the key to success ..
I am confident in what I am living now, all the effort and time that I spend, I believe someday steem will rise again.
Honestly I rate your post very interesting, every writing that you create invites people to not bored reading it .. good work my friend

@cflclosers | March 12, 2018, 7:46 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Im happy you did this because I want to follow the comments. I think the perspectives shift depending on when you joined steemit. I for one don't want to see my earnings fall but if SBD gets pegged and because like a "real" Tether type product it will be worth it for me.

I think the important thing is to not let this conversation die as new people enter the ecosystem because it is hard to wrap your head around the concept as a newbie.

@paulag | March 12, 2018, 7:54 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I have seen this discussion come up a few times and i have also been told some witnesses are removibg witness votes because of disagreement on the same.

Let me ask you a question, how is it financially possiple to peg SBD to USD? And following a regulated and controlled currency, could we not consider something else?

@digitaldruid | March 13, 2018, 9:33 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Possibly a crypto-index weighted value? This would build on the support for cryptos in general and would provide a way for developers to get paid for their work if conversion fees were implemented.

@travelwithus | March 13, 2018, 5:26 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

good post dear @knircky. I would like to suggest that we have more options by posting. Not only the common 50/50 and the 100% SP. It will be great to have more options there.

Design improvements are not that much important as the system improvements. I can see that they did a update with the design buttons on top right side. But better they will put the effort into the other more important ways to improve steemit. ....

It will be as well fine to have multi upload with images. I am getting every day crazy by uploading every image separate. :-)

@elmadriles | March 13, 2018, 7:53 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Follow you and also vote for you as a witness

@knircky | March 14, 2018, 7:19 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you!

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@beautypics | March 13, 2018, 8:06 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

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@boomerang | March 13, 2018, 8:12 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This post has received a 75.63 % upvote from @boomerang.

@farq | March 13, 2018, 8:44 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

On one hand, I do think that a pegged SBD would be better - but it needs to be managed so as to not affect the holdings that people currently have.

If it got announced that SBD would all of a sudden be going down to $1USD then everybody holding SBD loses out. They should offer the opportunity to swap SBD for STEEM 1/1 (which is pretty much the current rate).

They then need to put in a proper long term strategy as to how SBD will remain at $1USD. It would need to be a very dynamic approach that is not susceptable by whale manipulation to bring the price back up (or down) again.

If SBD does find a way to properly peg, this would add a new dimension (as I'm sure was originally intended) to make STEEM a more usable cryptocurreny in our every day lives.

@jarok | March 13, 2018, 9:01 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

thanks......it is good post.......

@postpromoter | March 13, 2018, 9:01 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@rasel49 | March 13, 2018, 9:03 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you for your attention

@mdmahmudulhasan | March 13, 2018, 9:07 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for your amazing share about of SBD.

@ivonne | March 13, 2018, 9:14 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

For new steemit-community-members like myself it would be a very comfortable situation, if SBD will notice much higher than STEEM. For this situation I'm still waiting. I have placed some orders on the internal market. If SBD will rise up I could buy more STEEM with my autor-rewards to POWER UP the STEEM on steemit and increase my voting-value.
Best regards from Germany.

@spurss | March 13, 2018, 9:15 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]
@generation | March 13, 2018, 9:19 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Brilliant! Amazing people with smart ideas continue to emerge from this community and I am loving it :)

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@graciousrecipe | March 13, 2018, 9:25 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

For sure! We need stable SBD.

@hashclub | March 13, 2018, 9:41 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I have voted you.

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@jsweeps | March 13, 2018, 9:41 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great content and awesome post. I am new to steemit and really have enjoyed my first browse of the website. Keep up the great work.

@arykurniawan11 | March 13, 2018, 9:46 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@elear56 | March 13, 2018, 9:52 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]
@tarik143 | March 13, 2018, 9:57 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@georgeetukudo | March 13, 2018, 10:06 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I believe steem is more stable, but it will always fluctuate with other cryptocurrencies.

@steemlota | March 13, 2018, 10:16 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

really steemit is a stable platform

@runicar | March 13, 2018, 10:22 a.m. | Votes: 13 | [ VOTE ]

There is no reason to intervene now as we don't have any bussineses or projects running that would benefit from a stable 1$ SBD. Leave it as is and it will just serve as a jet engine propelling us forward.

It will go back to 1 on it's own when steem goes to 100 after SMT and HF 20 are successfully implemented. It will balance itself back to 1 as a ton of new SBD will be created every day.

@mindtrap | March 13, 2018, 10:40 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Yeah but when?you think it will go down to 1$ just like that. People don’t understand that SBD is only mined in this platform. And only by authors. steemit is actuve 2 years now and we have only mined 10mill sbd. The number is really small. AAnd I don’t think that anyone can interfere in the protocol just like that. If it was so easy we could also change the circulation supply of Steem which-i don’t know how many of you have noticed- but out of the 269mil we are standing at around 253 as we speak. And judging by how quickly it escalates i assume within 4-5 months there wont be any more steem for mining.
At that point things will take their way. Steem will roll while sbd will return to the price it was originally designed

@onthewayout | March 14, 2018, 2:07 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

> ...judging by how quickly it escalates i assume within 4-5 months there wont be any more steem for mining.

Steem does not have a hardcap, from page 26 of the White Paper:

> Starting with the network's 16th hard fork in December 2016, Steem began creating new tokens at a yearly inflation rate of 9.5%. The inflation rate decreases at a rate of 0.01% every 250,000 blocks, or about 0.5% per year. The inflation will continue decreasing at this pace until the overall inflation rate reaches 0.95%. This will take about 20.5 years from the time hard fork 16 went into effect.

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 1:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

"It will go back to 1 on it's own"

It's already doing that, even while other top-upvoted comments in this thread "lie" and say that it's price isn't normalizing.

Literally, many of the top comments in this thread are boldly lying about SBD not reverting to normal from normal market activity.

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Derp? Which way does the line go? I think it goes from $12 to $2 (83% loss) in under 3 months.

Bueller?

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@h-max | March 13, 2018, 10:22 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Nice piece

@xuegao | March 13, 2018, 10:33 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

it is very useful to me ,thank you for your sharing.

@theaverageman | March 13, 2018, 10:34 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I won't make out that i understand all the technical stuff However i agree that throwing out a good idea rather than fix the problem is a bad idea.
A stable currency is a must and its the single thing in my view that puts people off crypto currency.
I'm new to steemit but can already see what a great platform it is and has the potential to be even greater..
When i vote for a witness, what am i voting for??

@minsoenaing | March 13, 2018, 10:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I like steem. Thus I am glad for high SBD for you say.

@ambriya11nov | March 13, 2018, 10:48 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@barne734 | March 13, 2018, 10:50 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

I am not 100% sure what should be done, but something needs to be done to help sustain this project, because right now there is just to much spam

@bluewinter | March 13, 2018, 10:50 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

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@ayoplenty | March 13, 2018, 10:54 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

It is a good idea if you want/wish to, but fixing the SBD wont it get affected on the blockchain

@markkujantunen | March 13, 2018, 11:04 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

The idea go let the value of SBD float until it hits somewhere close enough to the peg is probably the best compromise. I'm in favor of keeping it stable after that.

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@belleabuel | March 13, 2018, 11:17 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I cannot help but appreciate your content. I am new in the community, and I will apply the information you've shared.
I also read an article about the principles on how to be successful in Steemit. First, is to create a content that adds value to other people lives. It's your personal perspective. It should be Authentic, honest, open and sincere. . Second, It is a network with like minded creators so that you can work together and what was that enable you to do? It enables you to create content that adds value to other people's lives and so we have this positive feedback loop and follows and upvotes which are basically SBD. In my opinion, If you pursue this two principles that will help you become successful in Steemit.

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@henryndunka | March 13, 2018, 11:22 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This will be more or less like price fixing. Anyway, it will obey the law of demand añd supply. If this will be a long term economic solution to this fluctuation? So be it.

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@yunikamar | March 13, 2018, 12:08 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@viraldrome | March 13, 2018, 12:31 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I just think back to the the 12 dollar SBD days of December and I miss them. Pegging it might be good for stores using them but I am not sold on the idea being great for everyone.

@theinsideout | March 15, 2018, 3:59 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Yeah, for bloggers, more money is better than less money. If Steem INC. is increasing the supply of SBD to drive the price down, I sort of feel pumped and dumped. I mean, I understand the promise of a higher Steem value in the future, but those are just predictions.

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@kormyname | March 13, 2018, 12:56 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@zohraka | March 13, 2018, 12:57 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@maulidar | March 13, 2018, 12:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

SBD prices do not work. how people respond.

@shorif4174 | March 13, 2018, 12:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

hi my name is SHORIF, i am a newcomer in steemit. I hope we can establish relationships and help each other. thanks.

@psychgurl | March 13, 2018, 1:03 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Its a nice initiative.I wish i could benefit from it but i do not even have sbd yet.

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@somejasonguy | March 13, 2018, 1:14 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@bdmillergallery | March 13, 2018, 1:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@mysearchisover | March 13, 2018, 1:24 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I think we should leave it. I think problems will eventually work themselves out.

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@outofsteem | March 13, 2018, 1:25 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Comparing SBD to USD is an Apples to Oranges Comparison

The problem with the system is with the utility of SBD, not the price. The US government can print more money to cause inflation to devalue the dollar if needed because the dollar is used to buy EVERYTHING. There is an infinite demand for the dollar and a limited supply, so printing money causes the price of the dollar to go down.

The same is NOT true for SBD. SBD is only used to pay bots and buy Steem. Therefore, creating more supply when the utility is not there does not solve the problem.

My 2¢

To address this problem, you need to fix the utility problem. By leaving the problem to the open market, you let the price fluctuate. To me, I'd rather have SBD than steem because I can buy upvotes which will give me steem and steem power. If you can get a 2x upvote with your SBD, then (after accounting for curation fees) you've profited from the payment which means your SBD is worth more than a dollar.

To fix this problem, you need to create an infinite supply of $1 SBD. On Steemit, the defacto conversion system is blocktrades. If blocktrades permanently values SBD at $1 and any conversion through blocktrades used the $1 price instead of market price, you are removing the incentive for anyone to price SBD at anything other than a dollar. Why pay $1.10 for your SBD when you can get as much of it as you want for $1? As long as blocktrades is supplied with enough SBD to meet all the demand, the price should be pegged to $1 or at least very close to it

@danvillani | March 13, 2018, 1:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good point! An infinite supply and demand at $1 should peg the price to $1. Backing SBD by any asset will fix the supply of SBD and we will run into the same problems the US government ran into when the dollar was backed by the gold standard. You just can't scale to where you want to be if there is a fixed supply.

@intrepidphotos | March 13, 2018, 8:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

The problem is that it is backed by Steem (thats how it gets its floor) . So an infinite supply creates stability issues for Steem when people want to get their 1USD which can bring Steem crashing down and SBD with it.

@outofsteem | March 14, 2018, 12:01 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

SBD shouldn't be backed by anything. It should just be a flat $1 currency. Steem tokens can be backed by the blockchain and can get market rates for its value

@intrepidphotos | March 14, 2018, 12:20 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You cant have a fixed 1$ valuation of SBD backed by nothing; SBD are by definition exchangeable (aka backed) to Steem at 1$ market value thats what gives it its floor value. Otherwise its just another coin floating freely on the market. It seems there is little understanding in this debate of how market pegs for a currency actually work. The only people that can unilaterally issue 1$ of true USD currency is the US reserve. The SBD peg (its really a floor) to the USD only works because its convertible to 1$ worth of Steem regardless of the steem price. You can think of it as a financial derivative of Steem. A limit is kept for SBD's issued at 10% of the Steem market cap so Steem could go in theory go down 90% before the SBD conversion liability would almost double the total market supply of Steem (and all things being equal halve its price on the market). Falls far beyond the 90% become dangerous as they can risk the collapse the entire value of the steem blockchain if there is a run on SBD (ie when the Steem price tends towards zero you need exponentially more steem to hit the market to generate the 1USD required per SBD, as this in tern comes on to the market it lowers the value of steem further initialing a downward spiral asymptoting at an effective value of zero). I wrote a more detailed comment below which might help explain further.

@outofsteem | March 14, 2018, 1:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks, @intrepidphotos for your response. I have a very good understanding of market pegs. I welcome debate but please keep the debate to the facts instead of whether or not one side understands economics.

I can tell you that no asset, priced to the USD stays constant in value. Look at oil, gold, and anything on the market. The reason for this is because the market value of the dollar changes as well as the market value of the asset priced to the dollar.

"all else being equal" statements are not reflective of the real world. They are textbook economics answers that reflect how the should world work instead of reflecting how it actually works.

If you want to peg SBD to always be worth $1, creating an infinite supply and demand at $1 will maintain the price. Any fluctuations in price will be arbitraged back to the $1 mark. If you price a free market asset in terms of another free market asset, you will not get a fixed price, regardless of how much you manipulate the SBD supply.

@intrepidphotos | March 14, 2018, 4:08 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I welcome the debate as well; I am not trying to offend anyone, I am simply referring to the fact there is not a good understanding on this forum that SBD is a financial derivative of Steem, its not a primary currency like Steem. And to peg anything to a fixed value, it needs something to underwrite the value.

The simple fact is that one can't simply create an asset that has a price of 1USD out of thin air unless you can print USD themselves (ie the US Fed). If you want to attempt to tie the price of one good (eg 1 SBD ) to another good (1USD) you need to have a mechanism to do that, which requires something to underwrite the price (ie you can always exchange good A for a variable amount of good B equal to a fixed amount of good C - this links A to C though the market value of B) . There is simply no other way to do that. You cant just create "infinite demand " of an asset as you suggest. If that was the case one could just ICO a new new currency to themselves and fix its price as one ounce of gold . The obvioius issue here is without any demand at the fixed price no one will buy my new currency from me no matter how much I insist its worth an ounce of gold per token. The only inherent value SBD has comes from its algorithmic underwriting by Steem, in that it converts to 1SBD worth of Steem at any market price of Steem. If you have infinite supply of SBD (which is in your control unlike demand) then it will collapse the value of Steem to zero and essentially break the algorithmic link. This is why they cap it at 10% of the total value of Steem.

Lets look at a comparison between SBD's and treasury bonds. Both are a potentially interest bearing derivatives of a primary currency. If the government issued an infinite number of bonds and then there was a run on the bonds they could always just print money and pay all the bonds back. This would lower the currency value relative to other currencies but not necessarily collapse it as their liability is held in the currency that they have control over and can print.

Now lets compare that to the situation with SBD. The SBD mechanism would be equivalent to if the US government issued interest bearing bonds that were redeemable not in a fixed amount of US dollars but in a variable amount of US dollars linked to a fixed amount of a currency they have no control over such as Euros. So to make that clear the bonds would be redeemable not in a fixed amount of USD but by a variable amount of USD that was equal to the amount of Euro at the time you purchased the bond ( just like 1SBD is an interest bearing derivative of Steem that is redeemable for a variable amount of Steem equal to the 1USD at the time of redemption). In our analogy this would let European investors by US bonds with a direct hedge to the euro and take no currency risk. Similar to what SBD tries to achieve in eliminating fluctuations in the underlying asset though a peg to an external asset.

The issue if the US prints a large number of these bonds relative to the size of the total money supply it creates a stability risk for the underwriting asset which in this case is USD. When the price fluctuates down and some people start to want to redeem their bonds the US Fed will have to pay the bond holders back in an increasing amount of USD. This is due to the conversion of the bond to an amount of the underwriting asset (in this case USD), to get the fixed amount of Euro that the peg was against. So they can simply print more USD as that is in their control, then they sell it on the open market to buy Euro (in the same way the Steem block-chain can produce more 1USD worth of Steem on converting a SBD which can then be sold on the open market to obtain the physical 1USD). The issue here is that this lowers the price of USD relative to Euro (or Steem relative to USD) as more supply comes on, so the next bond holder that wants to convert they would have to print more USD to redeem the same amount of Euro (or issue more Steem to create 1USD).

This is not an huge issue if you only have a small amount of these financial derivatives outstanding relative to the money supply from which they are derived (which is why SBD are capped at 10% of the total market value of Steem). However if there is a large amount this quickly becomes a self reinforcing downward spiral where the price quickly asymptotes to zero.

If you have a look at my other post in these comments list it might be a little more clear.

@intrepidphotos | March 14, 2018, 4:09 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I have pasted my primary comment from this forum below so you don't have to find it

"People don't seem to understand that you can't have it both ways. You can't hold a fixed 10% limit of SBD/Steem and then hold the peg. You could hold the peg temporarily if you had unlimited ability to print SBD, but as a debt instrument if you printed too much then after some downward movement if everyone called them at once for conversion to get their 1 USD worth of Steem , it would collapse the value of Steem. A hard pegged SBD is a stability problem for the instrument which has to underwrite the stability. This is why it was designed as a soft peg in the first place with a limit on supply as a % of the market cap of Steem. SBD goes down interest rates can bring it back up , in contrast if the SBD goes up it will increase author rewards value and increase conversion of user SBD into Steem, which in turn as the steem price goes up further increases the supply of SBD in payouts up which puts more downward pressure on SBD.

Fixed pegs just don't work; unless you match them directly with the underling asset (ie this would involve banking one USD in an fiat based account for every SBD , just look at the conjecture about Tether and if they are actually doing this). You can't just print money on a real world pair without having something backing it (just look at the relative value of a USD denominated bank account in Zimbabwe held with the new USD pegged Zimbabwe dollars) . Financial systems have to be stress tested for extreme fluctuation so the whole system does not collapse. The recent price spike and subsequent increase in supply of SBD and lowering of the price of SBD is a system that is working, not broken. This is how it was designed to work. Stability in currencies comes from having large stable GDP being transacted in that currency. Its the incredible volume of regular nominal monetary transactions and flows which creates the stability. You can't create a stable currency then invite commerce. You have to bring commerce to the currency, then when the nominal transaction based flows dwarf the speculative flows you will end up with a stable currency. So unfortunately its a little chicken and egg, and simply takes a long time to develop those transaction based monetary flows."

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@shuvosarker24 | March 13, 2018, 1:30 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@hjavid | March 13, 2018, 1:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@indrakasa | March 13, 2018, 1:42 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@dynet | March 13, 2018, 1:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@paulravensky | March 13, 2018, 1:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@furn01 | March 13, 2018, 2:14 p.m. | Votes: 11 | [ VOTE ]

Personally, I believe whatever is best for Steem then that should be the option moving forward, I dont think we will see it drop to $1 in the short term.

Although looking at BTC it could happen sooner than expected if the price continues to fall.

Can I ask - Do you think new people to the platform actually understand that the payout that is shown in a $ value is wrong?

I had no idea when I first joined, and many people I speak to don't either.

It was only after watching many videos and looking at articles that I started to understand this.

Conclusion - Long live Steem and Steemit :-)

@prlndra | March 13, 2018, 4:49 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I had a suspicion the displayed $ value couldn't be accurate. Do you have any references or could you go into as to how that is calculated versus what the returns really are?

@furn01 | March 13, 2018, 5:18 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

@prlndra I use this online tool - http://steem.supply/rewards

Just make sure you change the Steem price and also SBD to the actual price and it will show you your earining per post.

@asrafulw16 | March 13, 2018, 5:37 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Very good

@prlndra | March 13, 2018, 5:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

What is the best place to track the steem/SBD prices? Within the steem platform itself or an external exchange?

@furn01 | March 13, 2018, 6:15 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I use Coin Market Cap - https://coinmarketcap.com/

On the righthand side is a search box - Type Steem or SBD in there and it will give you the price.

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@theinsideout | March 15, 2018, 3:56 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Basically, 1/2 is paid in SBD. The other half is paid in enough Steem to equal the USD value. So, if you see that your post pays $2.00 in rewards, you get ONE SBD. and one dollar's worth of Steem.

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@furn01 | March 19, 2018, 5 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@knircky | March 19, 2018, 11:14 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

We are still testing and will announce more soon.

@kevinizundu | March 13, 2018, 2:15 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I'm new to this platform and reading through this post got me a little confused. I hear things like sbd, crypto. Please can someone help me. Thanks

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@serge.kalash | March 13, 2018, 2:18 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

So as we've seen in the real world so far only one currency had been able to sustain such a peg to the dollar and that would be USDT.

1 they only were able to do so because they claimed that they had the equivalent in USD sitting around in a vault.

2 they caused much controversy, are getting audited, and everyone is sketched out over it.

What can we learn from This?

1 basically if we cannot keep the reserve of cash on hand to match, we have only the option to allow SBD to play in the market until such a time as the whole of cryptocureency calms down and stops being so volatile

2 we shouldn't try to force the free market to do our bidding.

3 if we claim to have usdt in a vault we will invite skepticism, audits, and mistrust from the crypto community.

what options does this leave us?

1 let the free market do its thing and allow the platform to mature how it likes

2 open up the voting on the currency to have consensus from the whales to only sell their SBD at $1 USD (won't happen)

3 actually have the whales or whomever wants to build the vault and peg it 1:1 ratio to USD.

4 simply wait for #1 to mature and if the platform survives it will eventually be a stable currency.

@kongen | March 13, 2018, 2:20 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I think the flaw in the coding should be fixed either way if it is to be fluctuating or maintained at a fixed rate.. But I vote for fluctuating so we can have some extra earning potencial as writers! Im totally new here, just got verified.. Please follow and help me get started. Im from Denmark. Amazing to finally be able to write here with the account! And great article! Great to be able to read from you insiders / developers / long time followers here, about the workings. I dont understand it that well still.... :D

@mamunbd | March 13, 2018, 2:20 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I would like to request you all to help me. Because I am a new user.........Please help me...........

@kamboj | March 13, 2018, 2:24 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I hope SBD will 2x-10x in 2018............

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@nahrulhd422 | March 13, 2018, 2:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@clickbaster | March 13, 2018, 2:26 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@dennygunawan | March 13, 2018, 2:29 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice post brother.

@faisal1650 | March 13, 2018, 2:33 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

a stable sbd is needed

@long888 | March 13, 2018, 2:34 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Actually, when I power down after about 5 months with #steemit I did buy SBD with STEEM but since I do need the money I end up cashing it out.

I’m not sure if by doing so (the buying thing) had actually helped although I’m pretty sure if I just keep my SBD in my wallet that would be something beneficial for the platform.

>But then again considering the amount of SBD I used to get being a minnow somehow would not have any effect at all but I believe with the collective effort of a number of steemians will have a substantial influence that could help the whole community as a whole.

Personally I would really want SBD to be stable at a considerable value, that way we won’t be waiting for it to rise up drastically in order to withdraw some cash, perhaps if that would happen more people will hold their SBD for a longer time with the thought in mind that the value won’t go down that much.

>Moreover, people won’t be thinking much about money, or earnings on #steemit won’t be the main purpose anymore, I mean as #steemit would say earnings on this amazing platform is supposed to be considered as a bonus only.

A stable SBD would somehow lead to more people enjoying blogging or writing quality contents and eventually be able to share relevant information or ideas to the readers than purely having huge earnings in mind as their first priority.

@oguzhanbayalan61 | March 13, 2018, 2:36 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

fuck it up dolar . The richest treasure is the heart . ❤️

@rozeliya | March 13, 2018, 2:53 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@joanpablo | March 13, 2018, 2:55 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Wow thanks for sharing very informative

@rose98734 | March 13, 2018, 2:57 p.m. | Votes: 6 | [ VOTE ]

I'm not sure why it needs to be pegged to $1.

Currencies like tether which have a visible peg, need to be backed by dollars. While SBD is just a token that floats.

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@joanpablo | March 13, 2018, 2:57 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@fabianmaria | March 13, 2018, 3:06 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Consideration is key. I bought SBD when it was at $10USD/sbd.... Today it is below $3. My idea of SBD (without looking at the white paper) is that it is the currency used to give out reward in steemit. In trying to change the Ecosystem and driving SBD to 1USD it makes SBD week. In my little understanding of Forex, strong currency shows a stronger Nation. I think SBD should be encouraged to be Higher than the USD. I may just have to change my SBD to Steem.

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@banum | March 13, 2018, 3:08 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

It is not so good. that the steem dollar is so variable. because there are many people who use this platform as an investment tool. They want to hire steem and earn money. I think it is dangerous in this long term. This is a choice. it is risky. it does not come to the investor's job.

@ajiera | March 13, 2018, 3:08 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@angli | March 13, 2018, 3:11 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I am new to this field and doesn't know much about it.Hope that you people help me.....

@mtouqeer4u | March 13, 2018, 3:14 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I think high SBD is good for long term too..

@albertvhons | March 13, 2018, 3:15 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I do understand what the whitepaper pointing sbd to be a pegged asset but sbd fail to be pegged ever since, While for now, sbd is at more than $1, let it correct itself, I do believe in the long run that sbd will correct itself

while if you will force sbd to bring down to $1 without uses and purpose like everyday used, sbd will go even to $0.60 dip.. the market will be flooded and so steem price will be affected.

Only the steemwhales are selling the steem, while the new users are buying the steem to power up. The whales bring down the price of steem by flooding the market.

for me, let sbd correct itself,

@mahamlicious | March 13, 2018, 3:18 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Great 🤘🏻

@gre3n | March 13, 2018, 3:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

In my simple opinion the damage is already done. The system should of been thought out even further before given the ability to withdraw and trade SBD. Since the idea of it was to be pegged, it shouldn't of been given the chance to be traded for more. Changing it now would have major repercussions also. I guess if Steemit - @ned made the call to change something now, it be better now then to wait until it gets even worse.

I had the idea several months ago that SBD should of been left only on the Steemit platform and not able to be withdrawn. A pegged SBD savings account per say on the Steemit blockchain. Steem should of been the only crypto able to be withdrawn and traded on the open market. This in turn gives you choices. You can save your money on the site in SBD and never fear of crazy volatile fluctuations in price. When you want to take some out you would sell or convert it into Steem and then withdraw.

I hope the whole situation gets better over time. I wonder if there will be action taken or it will be left alone. Those are my two cents, Steem on!

@mati19930 | March 13, 2018, 3:26 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Hi all

@muhibbultibri | March 13, 2018, 3:38 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good imformation budy thank very much

@joseluis621 | March 13, 2018, 3:44 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@cob | March 13, 2018, 3:44 p.m. | Votes: 10 | [ VOTE ]

Correct me if I'm wrong but SBD merely guarantees you a dollar's worth of STEEM if you choose to redeem it with the blockchain correct?

So it's merely a price floor. By holding SBD you are guaranteed the purchasing power of a USD. Nothing more!
If traders are driving the price of the SBD up, that's merely a bonus. The instrument doesn't promise you that at all.

Would I be correct in saying SBD has a price floor at 1USD but no ceiling?

@prlndra | March 13, 2018, 4:41 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I'm new to the environment and I think this question right here is one that is helpful for newcomers to understand. I admitily need to look into it more but this entire post sounds intriguing.

@johnrenald | March 13, 2018, 4:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I agree with you, we cannot predict the Market globe that control by trading market. It depend on how many trader use sbd as payment tool. When the moment sbd many use it will up, otherwise when this sbd rarrely use, it will fown. It is system.

@shenanigator | March 13, 2018, 5:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

> Would I be correct in saying SBD has a price floor at 1USD but no ceiling?

Yes, at least to an extent. That doesn't mean it can't trade below $1 for long periods of time. We've seen that happen multiple times.

@knircky | March 16, 2018, 8:18 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Yes. What I am saying is that this is a design flaw relative to its purpose which is to represent USD

@cob | March 16, 2018, 8:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Right. If I had to pic a flaw.. that's the one I would pic! haha.

For Muse, this design flaw is good. Since we need to guarantee that artists and rights holders get the purchasing power to pay their bills to allow them to continue focusing on their music career.

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@christianyocte | March 13, 2018, 3:56 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I cant believe myself to be reading something about money, cryptocurrencies when I dont even take a look at my salary payslips.

Hahaha

@cutannisaf | March 13, 2018, 3:56 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Very greate for this post.

@ibeclinton | March 13, 2018, 4 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Love this so much

@arcange | March 13, 2018, 4:14 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@wizzyflex2 | March 13, 2018, 4:27 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

It's really true. Nice one

@tashfi | March 13, 2018, 4:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Knowledge based post..thank you for sharing..keep going on...

@jumowa | March 13, 2018, 4:36 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

No!

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@farhassenminha | March 13, 2018, 4:46 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Brilliant! Amazing people with smart ideas continue.I believe steem is more stable

@muhammadabid | March 13, 2018, 4:48 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@lindsayybg | March 13, 2018, 4:48 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@luispercussion | March 13, 2018, 4:49 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@vikisecrets | March 13, 2018, 4:51 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This sounds very reasonable, first wait until SBD goes down to 1 USD so that in the meantime we can have the benefits of a high SBD and then really peg it in both directions, which would make SBD an interesting currency like Tether again. I like this plan.

@cassey001 | March 13, 2018, 4:52 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

This was a good read.

Let me lead with - I wouldn't use a silver dollar at McDonald's on the dollar menu because, even though the tender is intended to represent $1 USD, the melt value is much higher.

It's worth nothing, upvote bots may have some role in lack of pegging to $1 USD. By sending 1 SBD to a upvote bot, the return right now is approximately 1 SBD + $ 1 USD worth of SP under a stable value scenario (before curation's cut). The reality is of course, there is a likelihood of ending up with less SBD than sent to the bot originally, this is due to fluctuations in market price during the seven day period and timing of when upvote bot lands on the post. However, when I use these services, there is some reasonable expectation of receiving most of my SBD back under stable 7-day value, receiving some Steem, and the value of inherent post promotion.

Let me know if you agree or disagree, but it seems like pegging the USD value would be difficult when the upvote bot rate of return on 1 SBD is so attractive..
Nice job..
Kudos.. @knircky

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:11 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@good-rudy | March 13, 2018, 4:53 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@cassey001 | March 13, 2018, 4:57 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Correct me if I'm wrong but SBD merely guarantees you a dollar's worth of STEEM if you choose to redeem it with the blockchain correct?

So it's merely a price floor. By holding SBD you are guaranteed the purchasing power of a USD. Nothing more!
If traders are driving the price of the SBD up, that's merely a bonus. The instrument doesn't promise you that at all.

Would I be correct in saying SBD has a price floor at 1USD but no ceiling?
I'm quite impressed.. @knircky

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:14 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Fuck off comment stealing thief.

@trickoash | March 13, 2018, 5:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@rahul.stan | March 13, 2018, 5:25 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

The reason that SBD aren't stable is because it is traded against BTC.
So at the current rate of 0.00025BTC(approx.) the value is around 2.5$. But as the value of btc increases, even if the SBD:BTC ratio is stable there will be price fluctuations.

One way to solve it will be to only have SBD:USD pair at 1:1 ratio if thats even possible.

Or

SBD shouldn't be liquid. The only way sbd should be used would be to buy 1$ worth of steem with it which will ultimately increase the price of steem.

Or

Leave the value of SBD as it is and take into account the market value of sbd when the post reward is sent. Currently when the post rewards are given out, it assumes SBD to be 1$ even when its not.

Or

Just enjoy the higher price :)

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@arslan786 | March 13, 2018, 5:25 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

So price of sbd is down right now but I think that this is good for investors on steemit as they invest less money to get more benefits from steemit

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@vibinmathew | March 13, 2018, 5:26 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

May be we should do better

@veerall | March 13, 2018, 5:33 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

FIX THESE THINGS FIRST:

a) We need good content on trending page, and no 2 liners or only specific content related or of specific members only or just a dinner shot.

b) Bots should review the posts before upvoting.

c) Need genuine Meritocracy, not fake (Give Fair chance to everyone, not just the rich)

d) Meetups/Programmer related should be funded privately, and not by trending, This is not called good content. Need a speprate page for it like an UPDATE or ANNOUNCEMENT page.

e) Or You can remove Trending and Hot page, so people will only look for content they are intrested in, using search bar or tags, & not upvote only for rewards.

f) We also need Reward limits and Posts limit. I guess if we keep max 200$ per post and max 5 posts, that comes to 1000$ per day means 30000$ per month. Which is morethan enough for any one to live life in any part of the world. and obviously you can invest in steem/SBD or other cryptos. This will also limit greed.

g) Also a minimum reward like 50 cents to 1$ (more or less i leave to experts) for every post with a minimum content (bots can handle this im sure) will give a boost to minnows, and will also lead to genuine wealth distribution.

All the above points will eliminate the "Central Banking System for the Rich only" type scenario that going on on steemit.

[IMAGE: https://steemitimages.com/DQmWbFe6pdUojXstiba69fpzybvxKJYDVSC1igBQQCcCbXU/Untitleda-2.jpg]
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@discernente | March 13, 2018, 5:33 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

I favor a SBD 100% pegged to the dollar, it is a no brainer. We already have a volatile crypto that is the Steem and all the others around. We miss a stable coin in the cryptosphere. Monstrous volatility is useful only for speculation purposes, but not for regular people.

@mitsuko | March 14, 2018, 12:26 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You got a 25.03% upvote from @mitsuko courtesy of @discernente!

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Except, it's actually not a no-brainer, because the natural mechanism to fix this situation is already working.

[IMAGE: https://steemitimages.com/DQmPy75sL4FHvh4bkVAWk539zQ3Y4JuVx3rdcX3oJ3fdZT4/SBD.png]

You armchair Keynesians need to sit the fuck back down.

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@ikhlassamudra | March 13, 2018, 5:37 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@darkflame | March 13, 2018, 5:40 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Rather than pegged, it is designed not to drop lower than $1. There is a lot of confusion about this, but what does a USD peg really accomplish? There is more inherent demand for SBD than was outlined in the original paper and it has been purposely vague because this is an evolving platform.

@oyvindsabo | March 13, 2018, 5:48 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I think the only reason SBD is so high is uneducated investors, and I don't blame them. They might have done their research and found out that there are two Steem currencies: SBD and STEEM and that one of them is supposed to be pegged to USD. Then they google SBD and see that the price is way over USD price. Naturally, they will conclude that this is not the currency which is pegged to the dollar. If we just managed to spread the word that SBD is supposed to be worth $1 and keep people from buying overpriced SBD then we could get the price down. It would, however cause a lot of investors to lose money. Another solution would be to simply make a new Steem Dollar and air drop it to everyone who already owns SBD, but give them 3x as many coins if the current price is $3 or something.

@dhouse | March 13, 2018, 7:16 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

>"If we just managed to spread the word that SBD is supposed to be worth $1 and keep people from buying overpriced SBD then we could get the price down"

are you joking?

@oyvindsabo | March 13, 2018, 9:26 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Both yes and no. I don't suggest that we should do it, but I think it might work if our sole goal was to peg SBD to the dollar.

@tolkatore | March 13, 2018, 5:54 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

How would a bunch of money being parked into the Steem Backed Dollar, as opposed to the Tether or United States Dollar raise the price of Steem... did I miss that part or something?

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:02 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

No, nobody here has provided any logic to that effect. They just assume people are going to flock to some no-name, 200-ranked crypto because some weirdos promise to peg it.

@tolkatore | March 15, 2018, 2:20 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hmm, that's what I figured, and thank you sir.

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@tolkatore | March 19, 2018, 5:48 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@sirajulislam | March 13, 2018, 6:19 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@paasz | March 13, 2018, 6:06 p.m. | Votes: 6 | [ VOTE ]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

@luck21888 | March 14, 2018, 4:29 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@lightproject | March 13, 2018, 6:19 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

How about dinamically controlling SBD inflation based on an SBD price algorithm?

> When SBD > 1$ each payout produces more SBD (and creates inflation)
>When SBD < 1$ payouts release less SBD (therefore inducing deflation)

@tspink | March 13, 2018, 10:49 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I didn't see this comment before I posted my response below but this run along the same lines as my solution proposed below. Basically all thats needed is to create an algorithm that can influence the price of SBD according to the monetary price of SBD at any future time point (x). There any many ways in which this algorithm can be written. @lightproject just proposed one and I proposed another in my comment below.

@underground | March 14, 2018, 2:30 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

LMAO
That is EXACTLY what they are doing!!! I've been watching...
> Measures ARE being carried out to "normalize" the SBD prices. I started watching this in mid December of 17 and the SBD in circulation was roughly 6 million units. It is approaching 11 million now. Steemit INC is inflating the SBD supply. Clearly the rate of inflation has been accelerated, nearly Doubling the supply in the last 3-4 months is an increase over what was done in the first 2 years. So STINC (steemit-inc) IS doing something about it.

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 1:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You don't seem to understand how SBD works.

That is normal inflation. SBD in circulation is increasing with every post paid out.

@underground | March 15, 2018, 2:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Built in adjustment. Even Better! Which was totally LEFT OUT and overlooked by the OP.

;)

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@mariannewest | March 13, 2018, 6:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hello, this is first an unrelated comment. I.J. from steemcafe and the creator's conference just gave me your name. He told me that you are a fellow German and suggested to stop by and say hello.

To the theme of this post.

In my opinion, it would benefit all of us if SBD is pegged to a stable value. Then more trading and selling of goods is possible and companies will open the door to accept SBD as payment.
I don't see that as a real option unless SBD is stable which means that we need to exchange to fiat to really use it for daily life purposes.
There will be always some who love the game of investing and trading but for crypto to be meaningful, it needs to fulfill needs for the majority of people.
So, yes, while I enjoy the personal benefits of SBD being worth more than 1 USD, for the longevity of this project, a stable SBD is needed.

@upcyclist | March 13, 2018, 6:41 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

To me, the biggest single issue is not how we try to make SBD stable, but why. The purpose of SBD is to give authors a stable income for their contributions. The problem is that anything based on any current cryptocurrency will be unstable, due to the inherent volatility in the cryptocurrency markets. To repeat a comment I made earlier, you can't make an asset stable just by wanting it to be so.

We already know these things.

The problem is that if you base any asset (whether it's due to the selling price, or the fact that it's awarded on activity) on supply and demand in a cryptocurrency market, you just attached it to a very wild ride.

I appreciate Steem's attempt to bring some stability to cryptocurrency, but I think the only thing that will bring stability is the evolution and wider acceptance of cryptocurrencies in general. Until cryptocurrencies become something other than a land of bleeding-edge proponents and speculators, that simply will not happen.

And if the community accepts that conclusion, then you can either

  1. Remove SBD from the model; or
  2. Stop trying to peg it to the dollar through market means
@cryptomaniacsgr | March 13, 2018, 6:43 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I don't think that we have to fix something that works well..
And if this is not normal based of the way that designed, can't go like this forever.

@alomgir0101 | March 13, 2018, 6:45 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@jademont | March 13, 2018, 6:46 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

If SBD can not be pegged to 1 $, there will be no reason for it to stay. Why don't we just remove it from the whole system? It confuses newbie.

@lemmybe | March 13, 2018, 8:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Lol... Removing it means no stable value for the volatile Steem. That's a good way to think about it but it's impossible. Fixing what is broken is better than throwing away.

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@rubedarioh | March 13, 2018, 6:48 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@raci | March 13, 2018, 6:52 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for your thoughtful and well argued article. You explain many aspects very well that I have been wondering about. I kind of expected that the high SBD price is something that is willingly accepted by the community to create growth and attract users, but it could be very harmful in the long run to everyone. After all, there's no free lunch.

What seems ironic to me is that BitShares, notably designed by Dan Larimer who is/was one of the co-founders of Steem, seems to have a well functioning market-pegged token similar to the SBD, namely the BitUSD. If you look at historical prices, the BitUSD has consistently been around 1 USD worth. Other cryptocurrencies like tether have been even more accurately pegged to the USD.

This really makes me wonder sometimes if the broken SBD peg is just a bug or a willfully made, dangerous design decision. What is your viewpoint on this?

See also :

https://www.steem.center/index.php?title=BitUSD
https://coinmarketcap.com/de/currencies/bitusd/

@mrkstn1 | March 13, 2018, 6:57 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I really am not smart enough in this to offer ideas but know when I hear a good one. I watch the steem and sbd every day and while I don't have much I don't plan on it always being that way. But I like what I read in your post and will follow and watch......

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@dhouse | March 13, 2018, 7:15 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

sbd was an extremely puzzling design flaw. The truth is that at this point there is no reason for it to exist. Why not just use steem? a "stable" coin is a very difficult thing to do and seemingly is tangential to the steem platform.

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@kenzy | March 13, 2018, 7:23 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@fachrurrazyozy | March 13, 2018, 7:30 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@gumilang | March 13, 2018, 7:45 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

will be a debate that will bring a huge crowd

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@hashclub | March 13, 2018, 7:57 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@fubsaon | March 13, 2018, 8:04 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@intrepidphotos | March 13, 2018, 8:11 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

People don't seem to understand that you can't have it both ways. You can't hold a fixed 10% limit of SBD/Steem and then hold the peg. You could hold the peg temporarily if you had unlimited ability to print SBD, but as a debt instrument if you printed too much then after some downward movement if everyone called them at once for conversion to get their 1 USD worth of Steem , it would collapse the value of Steem. A hard pegged SBD is a stability problem for the instrument which has to underwrite the stability. This is why it was designed as a soft peg in the first place with a limit on supply as a % of the market cap of Steem. SBD goes down interest rates can bring it back up , in contrast if the SBD goes up it will increase author rewards value and increase conversion of user SBD into Steem, which in turn as the steem price goes up further increases the supply of SBD in payouts up which puts more downward pressure on SBD.

Fixed pegs just don't work; unless you match them directly with the underling asset (ie this would involve banking one USD in an fiat based account for every SBD , just look at the conjecture about Tether and if they are actually doing this). You can't just print money on a real world pair without having something backing it (just look at the relative value of a USD denominated bank account in Zimbabwe held with the new USD pegged Zimbabwe dollars) . Financial systems have to be stress tested for extreme fluctuation so the whole system does not collapse. The recent price spike and subsequent increase in supply of SBD and lowering of the price of SBD is a system that is working, not broken. This is how it was designed to work. Stability in currencies comes from having large stable GDP being transacted in that currency. Its the incredible volume of regular nominal monetary transactions and flows which creates the stability. You can't create a stable currency then invite commerce. You have to bring commerce to the currency, then when the nominal transaction based flows dwarf the speculative flows you will end up with a stable currency. So unfortunately its a little chicken and egg, and simply takes a long time to develop those transaction based monetary flows.

@onthewayout | March 14, 2018, 2:27 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Finally! Someone who gets it.

@intrepidphotos | March 14, 2018, 3:24 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice to have someone understand what I am trying to say!

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:04 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank god someone with economics knowledge.

I cannot believe how many idiots are yelling about how the SBD "peg" is broken and not working, and it must be forcibly re-fixed.

Yeah, because it's not rapidly doing EXACTLY WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO OR ANYTHING:

[IMAGE: https://steemitimages.com/DQmPy75sL4FHvh4bkVAWk539zQ3Y4JuVx3rdcX3oJ3fdZT4/SBD.png]

Fucking liars, all of them.

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@mexbit | March 13, 2018, 8:19 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I think SBD is working just fine. Take a look at this article, where I analyze why the @steemit account is buying all those SBD's (this account holds 8.5 million SBD's):
https://steemit.com/steem/@mexbit/80-of-steem-dollars-in-the-hand-of-steemit-inc-8-5-million-sbd

@tamwin33 | March 13, 2018, 8:24 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

We should just use the BitUSD model, and allow people to issue steem-backed dollars. BitUSD has tracked the peg extremely well over the years.

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@gomovies | March 13, 2018, 8:37 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Very good post

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@etka | March 13, 2018, 9:05 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Great proposal. I do believe we need some change on SBD, if it's not working as supposed to. Although it seems the problem is due to the irrational, ignorant market. How you would control that I don't know, but whish you the best. Cheers!

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@smidge-tv | March 13, 2018, 9:16 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Pegging SBD to fiat currency that is losing its value is also questionable idea .

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@riskdebonair | March 13, 2018, 9:58 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

The only logical solution to this is to leave SBD as an asset that can beat the value of a QE fiat dollar, and create a new asset pegged to the price of gold. Steem Gold (SG). That way we keep SBD as it is working, and get to have our pegged asset.

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@pacific-yt | March 13, 2018, 10:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I think you make some pretty valid points on why we should keep the SBD price at 1$. While I do enjoy the extra benefits that come with it, if the price of Steem skyrockets, than it would be even more beneficial. Making Steem or SBD a stable crypto will be really good for those in the crypto world because we will finally have a stable currency, as well as put Steem on the map.

@electroneo | March 13, 2018, 10:29 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Actually there are many digital currencies in the market as we everyone knows their behavior depends by ourselfs and backwards, I think the best way way to increse the value of our Steem should be thinking in long term and making more invesment in the market with many areas in the e-commerce.

@tspink | March 13, 2018, 10:33 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Pegged SBD: Long-Term Benefits
Pegging SBD to a currency (USD) would help to create price stabilization in the price/share, much the same way Tether's price is pegged to the $1 USD. This will help to create overall market confidence in the STEEM platform as a whole since the value of the currency won't depreciate below the pegged value. In essence this would serve to protect a users assets to any market down-turn and provide investors and users with a sense of security due to the inherent stability.

Un-pegged SBD: Short-Term Benefits
Un-pegged SBD allows users to increase their wealth due to the financial incentive provided by the price of SBD increasing beyond that of its pegged value and in addition above the price of STEEM. This helps to create wealth distribution as stated in your post, brings in new users, and helps to facilitate the growth of the overall STEEM platform in the short-term. However, as a result of the price fluctuations due to market conditions, in the long-term, this would negate the benefits gained by a SBD pegged system.

Solution
Combine the benefits of a un-pegged SBD with the benefits of a pegged SBD. The way in which this could be achieved is by allowing the price of SBD to rise above its pegged value but placing certain restriction in place in order to guarantee it does not descend below the pegged value. There are multiple ways this problem can be solved. One solution which could be implemented is to create a algorithm for which the amount of SBD created in based on the current price of SBD. This would also help bring stability to the long term as the amount of SBD created would be directly dependent upon the current price of SBD at any point in time (x). As outlined above you could then allow users to covert SBD to STEEM and use the money generated by fees to provide funding for either marketing, distribution, etc., etc.

@aoe | March 13, 2018, 10:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I know one thing for sure, if we force the price of SBD down it will drag the value of steem down while going down.
Plus, nobody needs another copy of dollar when SBD can be a better currency.
There are many countries with their own currencies, I can't see any reason why USD should be the one we want to peg SBD to, and I honestly don't see any reason why we want devalue our currency to keep it at the same price as a failed currency

@schattenjaeger | March 13, 2018, 10:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I'm not interested in your bounty since I personally don't like you. I'm engaging in this conversation for the sake of.

SBD, in its current and broken form, may be a big roadblock in STEEM becoming a mainstream currency. I'm not sure if there is a plan in place right now to handle the broken SBD.

And do note that I appreciate the short term benefit of a broken SBD - but in the long term, it may, and probably will, cause issues.

Imagine SBD hitting 50 bucks, 100 bucks. If there's no clear consensus on how to handle it, and when you finally decide to do something, it's going to be too late and there goes STEEM.

Of course, I could be wrong. It's been known to happen. But I do feel this is the elephant in the room. I bet it's tempting not to take action because people are making more money, but, like I said, in the future it may lead to no one making any money.

And I don't think that's anybody's goal.

@jfitmisc | March 13, 2018, 11:08 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

You are suggesting making SBD "stable" and pegged to the U.S. Dollar; however, what's to guarantee it won't go LOWER than the U.S. Dollar in value. Is there going to be an algorithm that secures this? I think if you tried to restrain SBD that would be a bad idea, that would be like restraining Bitcoin to never raise above $1000 so that people would think it was stable (would Bitcoin have grown as big as it has if this was the case?). I think we should let the market run its course and decide what SBD are worth in the short term and the long term. I thought cryptocurrency was about decentralization. The rules of the Steemit platform have been made and have worked wonderfully, we should be coming up with ways to market the app to go mainstream, and concentrate less on restraining it. This reminds me of the Federal Reserve creating monetary policy and artificially messing with interest rates. I think if we start artificially messing with the Steemit, then that will actually cause it to lose "it's stability" and faith as you suggest it. I believe letting the market decide what SBD's value should be in the short term and long term is what's best. Just my 2 satoshis.

@s2000 | March 14, 2018, 8:09 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

@jfltmisc You bring up a very point. How can this cryptocurrency reflect that of an actual already centralized physical currency and also hope to have a future with in the digital currencies space? What I mean by this Is if theo original purpose and intention of bitcoin is carried out and the collapse of physical money takes place then where would the value in SBD Lie moving forward?

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@yesiruolaide | March 13, 2018, 11:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@punwik | March 13, 2018, 11:50 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@proteus-h | March 14, 2018, 12:02 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I definitely oppose any artificial pegging of the SBD value. Even the best attempts to create a "stable" cryptocurrency like Tether are flawed and require trust. I see no inherent reason to keep SBD at $1: If someone believes in the platform long term, they will convert to Steem. If someone wants stability, they will sell for USD and keep that.

Having a high SBD price helps everyone here with really no downside, other than that SBD can crash at any time. Without high SBD prices, only author who have been in the platform for a long time will benefit from Steem price increases (since Steem is paid out as a USD conversion on new posts).

@fotosedjarah | March 14, 2018, 12:15 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I agree with your idea. The uncertainty is unhealthy for Steem community. What's the point of having SBD if it's not pegged to USD? Why don't we just use STEEM? It's pointless to have 2 volatile currencies on Steem community. SBD and STEEM should serve different purposes.

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@stealthtrader | March 14, 2018, 12:28 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Man thank you I have been talking about this for a long time now.. These are from months ago.

Steem Dollars (SBD) worth over $4.00!??
Steem Dollars worth over $7.00!?
Steem Dollar Update!!
Is there a flippening for Steem Dollars and STEEM?

@gohain | March 14, 2018, 12:30 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@millz | March 14, 2018, 12:31 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I think this is something many in the crypto space have been looking for.
& I see how it could be beneficial, although in practice I don't think its very beneficial to the Steem community specifically at the moment.

Also, gotta love those multipliers on the payouts from SBD to USD! ^.^

@solmama | March 14, 2018, 12:32 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@kyrian | March 14, 2018, 12:43 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Honestly, I personally think you just wrote about the best way to fix this in your post

@inyourdream | March 14, 2018, 12:59 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]
@mvielma26 | March 14, 2018, 1:07 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@tikafadilla | March 14, 2018, 1:36 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice post👍

@anietieudofot | March 14, 2018, 1:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This is so true, I think we should see how we could fix it. The price fluctuations are not helping at all.

@ziaulhaqid | March 14, 2018, 1:41 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@doqspro | March 14, 2018, 1:43 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

nice... very informative

@julisavio | March 14, 2018, 1:46 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Greetings, Knircky

I'm new to steemit and I think at the beginning, it's better to invest in steem power to increase our power and our visibility. Then start to get the sbd.

I would like to ask a question. How do you think steemit will be in relation to the number of people in 2020 and how will this relation between sbd / steem power ???

Thanks for posting. Good evening!!

@mrxplicit | March 14, 2018, 1:55 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

First of all, i am @mrxplicit. I really love this movement. Thanks to you @knircay and your team. The stability of SBD is the future of steem blockchain as @eroche clearly seconded.

Cryptocurrency Stability is the job of Steem blockchain.

Thus, if SBD is pegged,
price fluctuations could be eliminated and its effect will turn steem blockchain as a savings wallet for most users who will not need to sell just to protect the value.
I strongly beleive that steem is far bigger than just making SBDs from blogging by steem content creators

But sincerely, at first, i did not understand this statement;
"High SBD is good short term and bad long term" until i critically go through this post again. And it was then that i got to know what you are actually talking about.
When the price of SBD is high, content creators are generally good, new users and every body is good because wealth distribution is even.
But funny enough just like you sited,
"In the longterm however the objective of SBDs is stability and without it they have no utility. Even worse the advantages that they are supposed to bring are not available to users. So while there seems to be no cost for not having working SBDs there clearly is one. It is just not as noticeable in the short term, while the advantages of high sbd price is clearly felt by everyone". Thus, i beleive its important to consider the STRUCTURE of the steem blockchain that will benefit its users in the nearest future which will even yeild more success for both the entire community and its members individually. It's effect on the community will be noticed as steem will grow stronger in value and acceptance too as "the debt ratio can never be more than 10%". It will make the
conversion from STEEM to SBD the only way to buy SBDs and at a should have a fee, which can be burned or used for marketing or development purposes
Steem used to buy SBD should also be burned. The price of SBDs will go high because the utility of SBD would increase and same for the price of steem.

Its better to delay the gratification of just enjoying the rise in the price of SBD now so that we can enjoy the bigger picture of steem blockchain.

Thanks for this bounty contest.

@gduran | March 14, 2018, 2:38 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Don't people who are into crypto have the idea that the USD will eventually lose all its value and collapse? With that kind of scenario why would anyone want to peg something to it?

@haizil | March 14, 2018, 2:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I am new to crypto currencies but the thoughts that revolving here is worth investing the time and mind.

Plus @brett have pretty much raised it up!

@wattoozaadaa | March 14, 2018, 2:52 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@cloudspyder | March 14, 2018, 2:57 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Since steemit is a social experiment to a free world were there is no central goverment. The price of its utility token sbd and steem might now also going in an experiment.

@fontiaasca | March 14, 2018, 3:24 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@brandonscalera | March 14, 2018, 3:26 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

My opinion is SBD should definitely be pegged 1USD because there’s no such thing as a dollar constantly fluctuating and being volatile 24/7 it’s unpredictable how much your SBDs would be worth, won’t make it as a Steem currency unless it’s stable like USD fiat.

That or just change the whitepaper so people don’t get confused and spread lies to the community that SBD is pegged and promised to be a stable crypto when its not!

Great post!

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

The whitepaper is obsolete. Stop obsessing over it.

What is a "steem currency"?

@brandonscalera | March 15, 2018, 5:39 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

The white paper shouldn’t be obsolete due to it explaining in detail what the company is about. Which for people that are serious in investing/using the platform or crypto like to know.

And “Steem cryptocurrency” same thing.

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 4:07 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@lucky1001 | March 14, 2018, 3:26 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Luar biasa postingan @knircky.selain itu,bagus, menarik dan sangat bermamfaat bagi saya.seterusnya bagi steemian semua.

@lucky1001 | March 14, 2018, 3:28 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Postingan anda sudah saya vote .saya lucky1001 sangat menyukainya.

@aisiva | March 14, 2018, 3:47 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

nice

@fangcan888 | March 14, 2018, 3:50 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Content is the best, the arbitrage model to send some rubbish article greatly affect the readability of the steam and readability, best can realize identify useful interesting articles to increase steam, and useless automatically blocked. Steemit had better be a platform for communication and social, rather than a public money do not pay attention to eat the destination.

@sonofsatoshi | March 14, 2018, 4:41 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

In my opinion, this imbalance between STEEM and SBD has created a lot of opportunities for newcomers to catch up and accumulate some tokens on their accounts. While the current situation is, I think, very attractive for beginners to engage in Steemit, I also agree that we need to stabilize SBD to encourage businesses to engage on this platform.

Here are the ideas that I have:

  1. Automatically adjust the percentage of post payouts if SBD price moves away from the peg. So for example, SBD is trading at around $2.60 today, post payouts must be 100% SBD to inflate the volume and encourage people to power up or buy STEEM. If SBD trades below $1, post payouts should be 50% STEEM, 50%SP to make SBD more scarce. And if SBD is between a predetermined range of $0.95 to $1.05, for exampls, payout will be distributed at 50% SBD, 25% STEEM, 25% SP.

  2. Make a certain rule wherein accounts will not be allowed to transfer SBD n times the SP that they currently have. This will drive more demand for STEEM and SP if people want to transfer more SBD. Thus, any attempt to pump or dump SBD will be limited by the amount of SP in the users' accounts. The problem with this is that SBD can be traded on exchanges. However, it will encourage businesses to invest on the platform through powering up before they can move SBD in and out of their accounts.

@juliemini | March 14, 2018, 5:13 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Your post is nice, i like it..
I just joined steemit, and posted for the first time. please see and check

@ayoplenty | March 14, 2018, 5:27 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice writeup @knircky

@juliemini | March 14, 2018, 5:44 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I just joined steemit, I see your post is very interesting and also an inspiration for me in writing.
I just posted for the first time. please see and check

@spaminator | March 16, 2018, 7:52 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

When you copy/paste or repeatedly type the same comments you could be mistaken for a bot.

Tips to avoid being flagged

Thank You! ⚜

@beeasy50 | March 14, 2018, 5:51 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Steem needs investors. If Steem is going to bring people roi it needs to change the currency structure. Its not going to work SBD need to be abundant and tied down to the dollar is simply not going to attract that crowd.

The question for me is Steem as a cryptocurrency investment would drive the price down I would think, considering there are no changes to the current structure,

Can Steem still flourish if its not attracting invester?

Will need to make a change , I think so. I'd love to converse and gain more insight.

Thank you for this blog post, its appreciated and well done since it brings us together to discuss the issues on the platform we have chosen to be a part of and grown to love.

I like getting a reply. It's exciting to see if anyone will see your post , at least for me, I am organic and I know there are many users.

@pukhtoon | March 14, 2018, 6:10 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Steemit is a social media platform where everyone gets paid for creating and curating content. It leverages a robust digital points system (Steem) for digital rewards.

@fbemall | March 14, 2018, 7:33 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

To my view, stability in crypto market will attract less investors and bring down the market. The competitive grounds we are looking at is the banks and master card users. They provide stable prices hence have great competition with crypto because of big gains. Perfect Money, Skrill have less popularity in the market but very old as compare to blockchain technology.

Again charging fees on Steem to SBD conversion will not make the market attractive.

What will make the market attractive and boost Steem and SBD is to make it more localized and easy exchange with our Local Banks, Mobile Money, and other Transfers. Most people love the idea but it seems more difficult to fund your account as a start up. One have to Fund alternative currency first before transferring it to Buy STEEM/SBD which increase cost of transactions.

Also, Education and marketing is a great key. Education on how to buy STEEM/SBD in a form of video tutorials will increase the market for Steem/ Blockchain. @jeffrybanfield is doing well in the marketing but it should be more.

Steem/SBD market price regulation should be an alternative. This will not makes it fall too bad and raise to high. Moderate price movement will be more preferable. Thank you

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 2:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good thoughts. Why anyone around here wants to compete with Chase Manhattan is beyond me.

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@gratamaster | March 14, 2018, 8:52 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Im new... not full undestand, anyway thanks for info👍

@rizwansadiq | March 14, 2018, 9:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hey bro the reason why Cindicator made the adjustments is because Coinfi has its service at 10000 for level 2 and for level 3 it's also 10000 plus a monthly subscription.
Palm Beach confidential had Coinfi #2 and CND at #1.
So I made the adjustments and hold 100000 of each.
I'm very bullish on both but I believe that CND will be for Hedge funds and Coinfi will appeal more to Wall Street Types.
Certain people call Coinfi the Bloomberg for Crypto.
They are even talking about a channel for Crypto 24/7.
Anyway I would request a Video on Coinfi and it's potential.
Thanks bro and keep up the good content

@sobur112 | March 14, 2018, 11:05 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@sobur112 | March 14, 2018, 11:06 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@martusamak | March 14, 2018, 11:45 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I agree. Of course is greate to have that extra value flowing into Steem and into the Steemians acounts but the cryptocurrency market lacks a more stable option to scure and store value. SBD could be that one. Maybe in the future they'll stabalize, but, as is the nature of the crypto market, the currencies value depends on how much someone is able to pay for it, be it 1$ or 10$. We'll see in the future.
Keep these nice ideas a flowin'!

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:48 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Congratulations! Your submission earned you 0.002 STEEM from this bounty. You have received 0.000 STEEM from the creator of the bounty and 0.002 STEEM from the community!

@blaogao | March 14, 2018, 12:18 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I want to have 1 million SP so that i help more people throught upvoting their post and i work for it

@jwolf | March 14, 2018, 1:42 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You're 100% right. I am not commenting to receive upvotes but to say that we should be proud you're on Steemit.

I hope Steemit.Inc. read your post and will act properly

@csgo.highlights | March 14, 2018, 1:42 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

nice article

@underground | March 14, 2018, 2:22 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You are omitting several crucial elements of this process, and then glazing over entirely other things. Pardon my ignorance, but you did not fill us in on this concept of Debt Ratio, and I have never heard of it. Yet you totally missed the mark on the measures that ARE being carried out to "normalize" the SBD prices. I started watching this in mid December of 17 and the SBD in circulation was roughly 6 million units. It is approaching 11 million now. Steemit INC is inflating the SBD supply. Clearly the rate of inflation has been accelerated, nearly Doubling the supply in the last 3-4 months is an increase over what was done in the first 2 years. So STINC (steemit-inc) IS doing something about it, yet you seem to be oblivious...
I grade this as a B- but I see potential for something good to be started by your work. Plus, using "WE" in the title made me think it might be from a Whale Perspective. It is a "WE" as is US, which is fine, but before you go proposing solutions you need to understand the problems a bit better. Thins are in motion as "WE" Speak, and I am trying to plot a course that will benefit the most from current events. The days of Hyper-inflated SBD are likely gone, barring a set of unforeseen circumstances. I am advising "my people" to usually "DCA" their Steem Purchases for Powering Up (as in use your normal schedule) because it will work out well, most likely, BUT watch for market conditions like I saw recently, SBD rising faster than Steem. But unless it's a big departure, one should just go ahead and buy on their own schedule. Now if SBD were to take off and steadily gain for a few days, then it might be advisable to hold and watch, but no one is very good at analyzing "how much" and "when". That is why I advise DCA (dollar cost averaging) because it all comes out in the WASH lol.

@alacharif | March 14, 2018, 3:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice vote you. Help me vote me

@bluu | March 14, 2018, 5:05 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I hope that you will make Steemit better than Facebook!

@timothyyohanan | March 14, 2018, 5:36 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

@brettcalloway Great insight, and what you’ve stated is the majority opinion on SBD, though I think the value proposition in SBD is largely misunderstood. If we had a truly price stable SBD as a 10% debt instrument of STEEM, it could be used for trade. Imagine if an eBay or Amazon was built on top of Steem because they were confident enough that SBD would always be worth $1. Imagine the skyrocket in STEEM token valuation as a result of this. This is what @knircky and similar thinkers realize and are trying to fix. Making a quick buck off of SBD fluctuations is one thing, sustainable growth is another- a price stable SBD would contribute to a better profit off of this platform in the long run.

@taurus007 | March 14, 2018, 6:53 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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According to CryptoCompare, “Steem Backed Dollars or simply Steem Dollars are stable value pegged assets issued in the Steem.it platform. SBD are pegged to the value of the USD and can be redeemed on the Steem.it platform for about one dollar worth of Steem. When Content creators receive rewards on the Steem.it platform they are made available in 50% Steem Power, which can be redeemed continuously over a period of 104 weeks, and 50% SBD which can be fully redeemed for Steem in a 5 day period. SBD can also be transfered on the Steem Platform and can be exchanged outside of the Platform
Anyways thanks for sharing and discussing good topic @knircky

@flashfiction | March 14, 2018, 6:55 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

My solution is quite simple:

Pegg the SBD to US$1. Get stability for investors.

Change the rewards system. Make easier to advance and get money. This attracts new users.

I think the rewards system should work as a meritory system where the main variables are reputation and number of upvotes/visualizations.

Based on those variables, each post has seven days to "unlock" rewards. Those rewards being a fixed extra or a percentage of the SBD you are gaining up to that moment.

So, reputation of 25, your post gets 100 upvotes and 10 SBD. Unlock reward of 1% extra. You have now 101 SBD. Go on from there, reach more upvote milestones, make more extras.

Reputation of 50, your post gets 100 upvotes and 10 SBD. Unlock reward of 5% extra. You have now 105 SBD. Go on from there, reach more upvote milestones, make more extras.

That way you would actually try to get a high reputation and you would feel your upvotes are actually valuable beyond your SP. Ergo, you try to post good content and are incentivized to vote for others, because the rewards are higher according to the number of upvotes reached.

Get rid of bots, get rid of the 30 minutes mark, get rid of freaking everything else.

Make it simple, fair and worth your time.

@lukestokes | March 14, 2018, 9:25 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Glad to see this topic being discussed. My thoughts on this seem to line up with yours fairly well. I did a 21 minute video and post here two months ago:

Should SBD Be a Pegged Asset? If So, When Should We Peg It?

I also did an interview with @davidpakman where we discussed the SBD peg as well:

1st on dTube: Interview w/ Steemit witness Luke Stokes, talked SBD $1 peg, crypto, much more...

Thanks for keeping this conversation going.

@rapboymeh | March 14, 2018, 9:52 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hmm very good point of view!

@nightwind | March 15, 2018, 12:34 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Looks like a great idea ...

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:42 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@chenlocus | March 15, 2018, 3:18 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I once agreed with this opinion. However, after reflecting, SBD is an excellent indicator for bullish and bearish market.

@digitalfirehose | March 15, 2018, 3:59 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I was in correspondence with a successful businessman I happen to know. We were discussing crypto and he was definitely wary of it, preferring instead, the more familiar space of his business.

He said, "Volatility is bad for business."

The OP is right. We need a stable currency so that when there is a dip on the way, we can sell the volatility and hang on to the stability. Many people who complain of fiat currency and the woes of inflation, don't seem to mind inflation that much when cryptocurrency is on the rise.

To frame the discussion in a somewhat different context, the volatility we see in crypto is in relation to fiat currency. Doesn't that seem more than a bit ironic? Crypto was invented for many reasons, and one of them seems to be to provide a hedge against inflation, a hedge that isn't a physical resource like gold, oil or coffee. It's a virtual commodity, and all commodities have values denominated in fiat currency.

I don't know what the answer is to restoring the pegged value of the SBD to the dollar. But I think we might benefit from looking at it from another perspective. We don't really have control over how the market values SBD relative to the USD. But we have programmatic control over how SBD is related to Steem.

We're talking about a decentralized autonomous company when we talk about Steemit, Inc., right? It runs on code. It has stakeholders that decide what the code will do, right?

So why not peg the value of SBD to Steem instead of trying to chase the USD down? There is where we have some measure of control. And therein, we can fix the fee for selling SBD for Steem. Whether or not there are fees for such an exchange can be set in code. Whether or not those fees are burned or not, can be set in code.

Just my $0.020 SBD.

@slider2990 | March 15, 2018, 4:10 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

SBD should not exist if it does not maintain a stable unit of currency pegged to some asset that does not fluctuate as much as Crypto. When SBD was wroth $1 it added value to Steem and Crypto community by providing a safe harbor during uncertain times. In its current form it just creates unnecessary complication for all participates. It is crazy that and asset which is supposed to be worth $1 could ever go to $12+.

@steem-bounty | March 19, 2018, 3:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@toresto | March 15, 2018, 10:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Honesly sbd make no sense 1 sbd is supposed to be equal amount of 1 dollar in steem so people will not loose their earning because of how crypto price changes, now it's worth same as steem or even higher, that's raising a question why do we really need sbd

@lexiconical | March 15, 2018, 1:40 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

"But imagine how great it would be if you could trust that SBD's are stable and one could use it to park value."

We can't even get this out of a national currency, and you want it out of a 2 year old crypto?

Who cares if price fluctuates? Just sell at the right time. What would be accomplished by downward pegging except destroying value?

If it gets back to $1 on its own, let it.

@daiku7 | March 15, 2018, 1:49 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@a-alice | March 15, 2018, 3:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

If SBD is low, the whales benefit. In contrast, new entrants will feel depressed. When their posts are of good quality, they are not paid a great reward.

@chukwudubem | March 15, 2018, 10:26 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@steemcenterwiki | March 16, 2018, 1:16 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for sharing! A link to your post was included in the Steem.center wiki page Steem Dollar (SBD):Links. Thanks and good luck again!

@eonwarped | March 16, 2018, 5:34 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I just realized this as I was commenting on another post, but...

Why not peg SBD to 2 USD (current state)? People complaining about not wanting the peg aren't focused on the peg so much as the price.

Or heck, peg it to the price in gold like GOLOS :P (I didn't even realize they were doing that until I looked recently)

@melissakellie | March 22, 2018, 11:53 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

really well said! i totally agree couldn't of said it better myself x

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