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Unreasonable Downvotes

BY: @mcgonagall | CREATED: April 26, 2020, 10:59 a.m. | VOTES: 25 | PAYOUT: $0.00 | [ VOTE ]

Hi all,
I am new on Hive and I really enjoy the community. Although it was complicated at first, I try to have some nice posts and communicate with other users.
My posts are photos that I took myself (no plagiarism, no hate speech, nothing like this).
However, I have to face a really awkward situation as my last posts are downvoted by @themarkymark and some other accounts (@buildawhale, @netaterra, @ipromote, @engrave, @aceh.point, @acronyms ) without an obvious reason.
I have to say that I don't know themarkymark, so It can't be something personal.
When I post something these accounts downvote me, almost automatically.

How can Hive community protect me from WITHOUT REASON DOWNVOTES?
How can a new user like me, without power, face this unreasonable attack from a powerfull user?
Is Hive a community where law of the jungle prevails?
Have I to quit the community as all my posts automatically are distroyed?

I tried to solve the problem through discord, but nobody answered me.
I also wanted to invite some friends to the community as I really enjoyed it, but now I don't know if it's a good idea.

Τhis whole attack not only doesn't let me benefit financially from my posts, but also doesn't let me communicate with other users, as these downvotes make my account look like a fake account.
I hope the community will not ignore the problems of new members. I think that everybody here wants to make Hive a big community and not be a closed group.

TAGS: [ #gems ] [ #ocd ] [ #peakd ] [ #blockchain ] [ #hive ]

Replies

@engrave | April 26, 2020, 11:15 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Don't take it personally, it's just a disagreement on rewards.

@jarvie | April 27, 2020, 9:36 p.m. | Votes: 7 | [ VOTE ]

I have no idea but it seems to me that they're basically just downvoting the upvotes of liondani ... i don't think it has anything much to do with you... unless they think you are an alternate account of liondani.
But my assumption is that if liondani stops voting you they'll stop downvoting you. Which is hard because liondani is one of the only people that upvotes you to that probably isn't optimal

@mcgonagall | April 29, 2020, 8:47 a.m. | Votes: 8 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you @jarvie ! It was really helful for me ! I couldn't imagine that in a community like Ηive a witness can downvote a new member, like me, just because an other witness supports me. For sure, all this can't be a good "promotion" for the community. Anyway, I hope it was an exception and not an ordinary behavior,because all this discouraged me a lot.

@jarvie | May 1, 2020, 3:28 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I'd say don't be shocked... Internet life has just as many feuds and problems as real life.

I got downvoted by the same stupid reasoning in the comment above. The solution is to make this place so incredibly large and full of people that the chances of bumping into these people slim to none. And good ridince right? Sure they have large votes but who needs the drama right?

If there are millions of people the likelihood of ever being on the radar of a @liondani or a @themarkymark will be almost 0 and that's probably the best thing to happen to this experience. Right now we're a small town with small town drama.

@jarvie | May 1, 2020, 3:56 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Even though i'm guessing you will still bump into liondani because chances are high you know him. haha

@fernandosoder | April 30, 2020, 8:47 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

I know how you might feel. This MarkyMark is a douchebag who likes to create bullying lists with the names of people whose content he dislikes and keeps the names there indefinitely.

He has me on his Buildawhale blacklist because back in 2018 I shared about a dozen memes in a DApp called DMania and still despises me as well as all those people he keeps on the list beyond an expiration date.

I am a witness, BTW and if you vote for me I'll give you automatic upvotes(subject to manual evaluation in a couple days).

@mediastorm | April 30, 2020, 8:51 p.m. | Votes: 8 | [ VOTE ]

I have the same problem

@mehta | May 2, 2020, 12:53 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Leave Hive come on steem.

@bestbroplayer | April 30, 2020, 9:03 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Why would @liondani promote your post anyway. I bet my ass you are just faking a victim here.

@rockor | April 30, 2020, 9:19 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

That is terrible to know about

@liondani | April 30, 2020, 10:19 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

After I promoted your post on peakd he downvoted everything to zero (as you can see) and started threatening me on slack also!

[IMAGE: https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/liondani/CIZDpVGO-Screenshot20from202020-05-012001-11-38.png]

@themarkymark | April 30, 2020, 10:27 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

It's not a threat, you refuse to stop abusing.

https://peakd.com/abuse/@themarkymark/farmer-spotlight-liondani

@hivepeople | April 30, 2020, 10:35 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

yeah but why drag this new user into it?

@fernandosoder | April 30, 2020, 10:27 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]
@themarkymark | April 30, 2020, 11:29 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Just removing Liondani's votes.

@mcgonagall | April 30, 2020, 11:45 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I really laughted with this comment. Thanks for the support!! @fernandosoder

@hivepeople | April 30, 2020, 10:36 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

hmmm this definitely doesn't look good. we should get this sorted....@themarkymark, why are you downvoting this user if they did nothing wrong?

@mcgonagall | April 30, 2020, 11:49 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

@hivepeople that's too complicated for me, I just wanted to have fun and spend my time

@mehta | May 2, 2020, 1:01 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

leave the Hive and go to steem, that's only the solution for you as i see.

@mrnightmare89 | April 30, 2020, 11:13 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

maybe it's a misunderstanding, go out there and prove that you're not lying. Post with quality content or just a regular post that you want to do. They will know that you're not faking and will start to remove that downvotes.

@mcgonagall | April 30, 2020, 11:33 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

@mrnightmare89 I 'm so tired of all this. I am so confused. Why I have to prove something in a community. My content is real and is mine. Maybe the best solution is to return to Instagram 😂

@mrnightmare89 | May 1, 2020, 12:03 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

it's your choice but you know here is fun because you're sharing stories. Unlike Instagram, people will only focus in photography. Not too many people will react there. If they'll react they'll just say, "you're pretty, nice". lol

@mcgonagall | May 1, 2020, 12:15 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I really liked Hive, but all these downvotes are really boring. Something between witnesses should not effect others. My uncle, liondani just upvotes and supports me, so what? Anyway, thanks for your reply. @mrnightmare89

@joe.public | May 1, 2020, 10 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @mcgonagall
Yes it is a problem the only real solution is to do what you are and raise public awareness. The other alternative is post of Steem !
Most of the big time abusers came here and if you wont kowtow to them they will most likely never leave alone. I have been through it with themarkymark and he is more than a little deranged.
See my post if you like https://peakd.com/freespeech/@joe.public/greetings-good-hive-community
If you dont mind i would like to make another post on tomorrow and highlight what is going on for you and a few others ?

@mcgonagall | May 1, 2020, 4:05 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hey @joe.public, you can write your post, no problem, I understood that there are a lot that are facing the same situation.

@klye | May 1, 2020, 11:49 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

It's not very common for folks to jsut randomly target people with downvotes..

Very likely that you posted something that was taken from another site (plagiarism), were abusing hashtags or did something that isn't well regarded in the community to deserve said downvotes.

@themarkymark is a bit of a hard ass, but for the most part is a level headed and fair person. If you honestly believe you are being flagged by mistake perhaps make an appeal to him with proof that you created these photographs and this will likely all blow over.

It is hard for new users sometimes, however it's likely that @themarkymark is just doing his job of trying to protect against plagiarism.. My advice is reach out and talk to him about it, I'd like to see this get resolved and you flourish on HIVE.

@whatamidoing | May 4, 2020, 7:06 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I agree with this.

@themarkymark does throw his weight around, but he does not seem to be unreasonable and he seems to really care about this platform.

I try to stay out of drama So I don't know whose side to take here but if you are really being honest, please stay here and make your case. we will all grow because of it and you'll get the respect you deserve if you remain civil. The harder things are for you, the greater the rewards will be in the end, that's how this place seems to work.

Please get to know us and you'll see it's worth sticking around. Definitely better than Twitter. Good on you for promoting a post and raising awareness of your issue.

I find that just making an effort to stay on good terms with everyone without censoring myself is enough to avoid issues with anyone. The one time I did have an issue with someone it was @themarkymark who came to my rescue. Might be a misunderstanding!

@transisto | May 1, 2020, 10:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

If you have to ask,
Yes, please leave the "community".

@lordbutterfly | May 2, 2020, 11:10 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Heres a revolutionary idea... Go talk to him. DM him on discord and try and see what his problem is. Liondani should do the same.

Discuss it and come to an understanding. Its pretty simple.

@mehta | May 2, 2020, 12:51 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hope you understand the situation here. You can't go opposite to @themarkymark. He is the ruler/king. He didn't here anyone voice. My suggestion that come at steem and leave Hive, it will be better for you. I also suffered many times with this fellow.

You can also join communities their and they will support you and all new comers. Join community https://steemit.com/trending/hive-159906 . We have policy for NO Downvoting. All upto you.

@hiddenblade | May 2, 2020, 7:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Then why are you still here?

@fbslo | May 2, 2020, 7:33 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Your photos are not worth $5.

@heimindanger | May 4, 2020, 10:26 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hey Buddy. I'm in a similar position, just deeper into the rabbit hole, check my blog for more details I guess...

You probably said something they disliked and now they want you out. The best way to fight it is to be resilient and stay. Sell all your stuff but keep 30 SP so you can keep transacting. Keep commenting on your enemies articles, sometimes normal, sometimes mean, angry, or threatening. Think of it as a vengeance.

If you go negative reputation because of this behavior, you don't care, just complain to UI owners that they are hiding your legit contents for no reason.

What they took from us, we can take it back through time. They will be silenced in a much more effective way than downvotes.

@poshbot | Sept. 15, 2020, 2:42 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://twitter.com/dick_turpin/status/1305879365884968963

@themarkymark | May 4, 2020, 7:25 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Not by me

@themarkymark | May 4, 2020, 7:29 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You would need to reach out to HiveWatchers in their discord. I am not familiar with what is going on in your case.

@themarkymark | May 4, 2020, 7:44 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I don’t know much that goes on in their discord as I am not part of HiveWatchers and am just a stake holder but I find it hard to believe they just banned you for only asking about it. But as I said, I don’t know what goes on there.

@themarkymark | May 4, 2020, 4:26 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

I'm not really the one to talk to, I am not part of Hive Watchers.

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