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Ways to Help HIVE Moon

BY: @omitaylor | CREATED: April 21, 2021, 1:06 a.m. | VOTES: 484 | PAYOUT: $11.09 | [ VOTE ]

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Mass adoption of crypto/blockchain is a very important personal mission for me. I strongly believe web 3+ to be decentralized. Certain problems need to be solved for internet users.

These are just 6 of the dozens of problems that creators, influencers, startups, midsized businesses, and fans of these face.

Problems with SOCIAL-BLOCKCHAIN

It seems that social-blockchain can help solve some of these problems and I've been attempting to research and test where blockchain is at for years for this reason. Although it too has problems.

Can HIVE/Peakd be a solution?

I've been trying to learn the interface because I come from the pre-fork platform. Some suggestions for HIVE (and peaked where applicable.)
* SOCIAL MEDIA EMULATORS. If it doesn't yet exist (I haven't found it) grabs the code from appics and port it to HIVE asap. And make peaked automagically NOT copy the content ie filter out the content from the appics clone so that they SEEM on different chains. Or use a different token. It would be well to clone:

  1. Twitter
  2. Instagram
  3. Youtube /Twitch (done w/Speak and Dtube)
  4. Soundcloud (where did dsound go???!??!!? omg! get that back!)
  5. Medium (PEAKED is IT! It is wonderful)
  6. Facebook (Peaked works for that too)
  7. Reddit (Peaked works for that too)
  8. Patreon (I thought there was one?)
  9. Pinterest
    * SOCIAL MEDIA SHARING. Some mechanism by which posts can be shared either automatically to social media apps. Even a way to easily link up IFTTT or Zapier.

I still need Wordpress, here is why.

I'm a creator, influencer, small business, crypto-enthusiast, affiliate marketer, anti-statist, occultist, secular, woman- whew.

Installing Wordpress on a host is fairly easy and boom, I have a blog. From there, I can import Bossbuddy plugin and have my own mini-Facebook member site. I can also set up Woocommerce and create paywalled content, member tiers, classes, a shop, etc. I can install other plugins to have points, gamification, and have a whole economy. It just works seamlessly, mostly. I can email or ping or message my whole userbase, in groups or individually. I can create drip email campaigns for my music releases. I can embed almost anything, or there is an app for that.

4 Big Drawbacks of Wordpress?
* My host can shut me down
* The government can shut me down
* My content and everything could be erased by a DB error
* Although people can buy points with crypto, the point system isn't crypto itself. It can't be cashed out into anything. Points themselves can't be used on another site.
* Hackers and others can just attack it easily

First things first...

I think onboarding lots of regular users here is a bad idea right now. I think HIVE should FIRST onboard PROGRAMMERS and DEVELOPERS first. Perhaps those who can really support the backbone, dapps, development, support, education, etc. People that can create all the things to make it truly superior to not only other blockchains but also to social media in general. Get them on board and delegate them MUCH POWER.

Second thing second...

I know some of the whales here are doing practically NOTHING with their HIVE POWER. And many lease their power out. But really? Wouldn't bringing up the overall value of all of hive be worth more to you than a few dollars from a leased HP?

EMPOWER THE BEST PEOPLE HERE FREE! JUST DO IT! You don't care. You know you don't. Let them free to build it up. Consider it a form of enlightened capitalism.

That's it for now. I'm sure I'll be back with a part 2.

I don't have a signature yet.

If you think I'll be valuable here, delegate me HP, make me a voting proxy or tip me.

xoxo
-O

TAGS: [ #peakd ] [ #blog ] [ #hivemind ] [ #beechat ] [ #help ] [ #suggestions ] [ #ideas ]

Replies

@omitaylor | April 21, 2021, 1:25 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hello @sandymeyer @engrave @sanjeevm @discovery-it @jlsplatts @urtrailer @marcocasario @splatts @keys-defender @veteranforcrypto @obsesija @hive-defender @b0t5-t3sting, I'm very interested in understanding why my very extensive post was downvoted by all of you. Your feedback will help me understand why you don't like my content and about your expectations. This post was me being completely honest. I'm not a hater and you might not know me, but I always help onboarding efforts as I learn and contribute. So do help me understand why you disliked what I wrote and if you read it. Thank you :)

@sanjeevm | April 21, 2021, 2:18 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I was following the @keys-defender downvote trail to help them fight with spammers but right now I have stopped following it. @steevc is @keys-defender account compromised now ?

@steevc | April 21, 2021, 2:22 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I'm not sure what is happening with that, but maybe it's gone a bit crazy. I suspect it was intended to undo votes by certain people, but it's hurting the wrong users. My own downvotes are all manual and done with care as I know others follow them.

@omitaylor | April 21, 2021, 3:29 p.m. | Votes: 6 | [ VOTE ]

@peakd @sanjeevm @steevc I'm pre-fork and coming from steemit and I know @pfunk told me about a big effort to fight spammers here so it didn't turn out like Steem. I do understand things being well intentioned but I believe that these efforts may be one reason why Hive isn't retaining users. And I get that the opposite approach is almost scarily dangerous because of spammers.

I just saw a silent comment that said farming detected. I'm assuming that means that because I promoted the post (and paid for it) that it looked like I bought votes. This is strange because why allow said services in the platform to pay for promotion at all?

My last few posts were about this. I would like to (in a happy world) onboard about 1000 users to start from another platform by adding my reflink to my next NFT distribution. I was thinking of building a community here. But I can't even get a hang of this myself. I've been massively downvoted TWICE this week out of 5 posts, murdered. None are abusive at all (unless you don't like my personal opinion. lol!)

Strongly feel that this is going to scare away new users. Is there not a whitelist program or verification program? Should not downvotes be manually audited?

I put 60+ minutes into this post and a lot of real thought. :(

Can't we make hive friendly?

@steevc | April 21, 2021, 3:54 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

It looks like you were temporarily on the HiveWatchers list, but have been taken off now. The trail with hive-defender seems to have been a mistake. Shit happens, but I hope it is being resolved. Hivewatcher are approachable on their Discord, but it can get busy there as there really is still a lot of abuse. Some of us do what we can to deal with it to make Hive a good place.

What is allowed and what is considered good for Hive may not be the same. I have not looked into promoting posts on peakd and have no idea what benefit it gives.

Most people on Hive are friendly, but there is the freedom to be a troll that some will exploit. We do not have to conform to any whitelists, but I think the witnesses and others want to keep abuse at bay as much as possible.

You can verify yourself to Hivewatchers to avoid some issues. My own downvotes are all manual as they have impact.

I am hoping Hive can be better than Steem (which is getting worse from what I see), but it is up to us. It is technically complicated, but with tools like Keychain it gets easier. Bringing in 1000 people would make a massive difference and I hope they can be made welcome.

I cooperate with others on fighting abuse, but I act as an individual.

!ENGAGE 25

@omitaylor | April 21, 2021, 4:06 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the suggestion. I will get on that verify process immediately. I do see having a community here superior. Neither Communities nor SMTs were ready when last I was on Steem. So I'm SO EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL HERE. And see what Leo did with it, I am literally STOKED. But like... not if every other post gets demonetized by downvote bots. Not that I mind so much, but I know my userbase would feel like shit if I brought them into an uptight, overly judgmental or toxic environment. Many don't join medium and stay on Facebook simply because users there will flat out comment that your article sucks! LOL! (I know, I'm a writer for 3 publications on Medium too.)

I have big dreams that's all. I don't want special treatment. Just the ability to participate.

Back on Steem I never liked when folks promoted posts all the way up $500 and I would never do that here, but I definitely think it's valuable if I'm spending an hour on a post that I can boost it— after fees and the WAIT for rewards, they usually half. And then converting SBD to LEO or HIVE or Tips will run it down, etc. It's working for pennies, most of which I keep or put back into the system. I'm very much about staking- but I like to maximize my efforts but not be wasteful.

Anyhow, thank you for your help and advice.

@steevc | April 21, 2021, 4:15 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

People have to realise that with rewards at stake there will be abuse, but people should not cry over every tiny downvote. Some will choose to troll the system. What you have suffered this week is definitely not typical and seems to be an unintended effect of a script.

Buying votes is generally frown upon on Hive. There's a thing called Project Hope that was giving votes to their community if it got 50% of the post rewards, but the greater community did not like that and many were downvoted to remove the big vote.

Nobody is entitled to rewards here and they should be earned based on what the community thinks. That does not always happen as some big accounts automate their votes, but there are curation projects that use manual reviews.

There are no hard rules here, so you have to see what works for you without upsetting too many people.

@misterengagement | April 21, 2021, 3:55 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you for your engagement on this post, you have recieved ENGAGE tokens.

@steevc | April 21, 2021, 4:03 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Just seen the guy behind @keys-defender is going to apologise to those affected by this issue. Unforeseen events broke his script. At least some downvotes should get removed. This does not happen that often.

@jarvie | April 21, 2021, 4:21 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

They should stick to "defending keys"... they should not meddle in anything else create a different account and be specific about it if they want to do other things.

@steevc | April 21, 2021, 4:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Well that is up to them. Those who follow a downvote trail are giving up some control. I do not follow any trails that are out of my control.

@jarvie | April 21, 2021, 4:27 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

yes i know.

@keys-defender | April 21, 2021, 8:38 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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  • @jarvie I did a month ago (@hive-defender) and that's the account that triggered the trails.

  • Please see my last post for more details

  • (it's not "they", I'm the only maintainer of the project)

@jarvie | April 21, 2021, 4:24 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I understand what you're saying but you got 20 cents of downvotes... and $10 of upvotes is it really worth all this? And a 4hive tip.

To anyone that is worried about downvotes I'd say turn off votes and focus on tips. Motivate people to tip on your stuff. Voting is a process where over a million accounts have full rights to vote UP and DOWN and they have 7 days to do it. So out of million+ accounts to expect no downvotes is maybe a very anxiety packed mindset to be in. On the other side... no one can "down tip" or "un tip" you.

@keys-defender | April 21, 2021, 8:43 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Screenshotting this and adding it to my post...

@omitaylor | April 21, 2021, 10:39 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

@jarvie @keys-defender Do remember, I come from pre-fork where there was no tips and I don't "know" of all of the upgrades to Hive since 2018. Also, most new people just joining will not know about the tips feature, nor of the spam/plagiarism problem. Lastly, "get paid when people like your stuff" is what's advertised to the public." So it can be a bit misleading.

Why do I care? Because I want to bring users to Hive and I want them to have a great experience coming in the door. Because the people I will invite are not just "anybody." They are high net worth English Speaking first world users who will HODL.

And I'm not squeezing my own boobs here when I say I'm someone I trust to onboard people. So I'm certainly not going to bring people to a toxic environment while other social blockchains exist and function without the politics i.e. Twetch, Bitclout, Minds, SoMee, etc.

Believe me, my concerns are not in vain. They are 100% out of best interest to:
* Fix The Peg
* Improve the Price of HIVE
* Onboard better people here than Steem
* Create Communities, Tokens, NFTS
And more.

Many of the things I wanted to do on Steem that I could not because my keys were gone and because the tech wasn't ready for me. Literally, @crimsonclad just finished developing the steem tipper for twitter. And I gave away hundreds in Steem.

I would like to add that upvotes are important because:
* If we PAY our Steem (15 per post) to promote then are downvoted, we effectively have been demonetized.
* If that demonetization has put us on MUTE, then we are invisible, which is indeed a form of Passive aggressive silencing- especially since it is the very intention to do so.
* These encourage new people who's post may only generate a few cents.
* We can be tipped anywhere wallet to wallet, without being on a platform.

Please note, I am FOR the downvote feature when it is used responsibly, and MANUALLY, to downvote LEGITIMATE:
* Plagiarism
* Spam
* $500 posts of a Hampster

Automation of downvotes could destroy more than mindset:
* Posts set to null don't get nulled
* Posts set to dev don't get funded
* Posts sent to the peg stabilizer don't pay out
* Posts sent to new users being onboarded via beneficiary don't work
* Destroy the reputation of those following the trail in the minds of the users, some of which are witnesses who will not get votes

Just food for thought. I'm not an enemy. I'm probably one of your best allies, you just don't know it yet. <3

@jarvie | April 21, 2021, 11:06 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Well i don't mind helping you catch up... happy to jump on a voice chat at some point and answer lots more questions. Maybe it's something that can help lots more people if it was recorded and available for people.

> "get paid when people like your stuff" is what's advertised to the public."
Certainly something we have long since moved away from specially on Peakd.com which is the most used interface for Hive.

Also because most people do use PeakD.com they do end up knowing about TIPS but future updates will focus even more on tips.

Paying for votes is a decision that most of the community has decided is not appropriate and the community is willing to downvote those sorts of actions.

In it's place there is the ability to pay to promote your posts on peakd.com ... it does end up burning about half the tokens so that it benefits all token holders.

Automation of downvotes is not something I can or want to defend it seems way too problematic.

I infrequently downvote and I tip more than most people so i'm not really the best person to ask about downvotes.

Also reputation is something that is loosing importance peakd will likely be the first to move it out of a position of importance and I know many are considering doing the same for hive.blog. Reputation won't go away but it just won't be shown in many places.

Also i know that future updates to peakd.com (again the most used interface for hive blogging) will put more emphasis on interactions like commenting and tipping. A heavy emphasis on voting has never led to sustainable success it's well documented. It's a fun perk but it's very very limited ... it has a set amount of hive tokens coming in each day and so it's a very limited resource and the more users means the more people competing for that limited resource. Interactions, Views, Tips are all UNLIMTED resources and so those people you are bringing in don't have to compete they simply can increase those things and they should lead to economic impact. Right now views doesn't directly lead to economic impact... BUT they will later this year.

@omitaylor | April 21, 2021, 11:29 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

That is wonderful news and I super-appreciate the update and would like to remain updated as much as possible. Again, not the enemy here.

I sometimes can challenge people's paradigms and assumptions but my genuine intention is a win/win for all. I know what's behind this beast (Hive) under the hood. So I am 100% certain that despite the hardships and issues with the peg, this is still the best social blockchain to develop and align with. I've always wanted this team to be ahead and stay ahead of the game.

Not against buying upvotes personally. Back on Steem there were many good causes running those kinds of programs including Non-Profits for environmental things (plant a tree) those helping plankton (who received curation rewards from bigger accounts who voted after the 24 hour mark) and more.

I feel as though with power comes much responsibility. Some people abused those powers and technologies and it caused many people to VILLIANIZE things like upvote chains and bots. Automation is awesome, saves us all time and energy, but just like AI- we have to be really careful about what we teach it to do- that goes both ways.

I know I might not sell people on the idea. But when used for good causes such bots can be VERY helpful to the economy. It's sad when malevolent people ruin it for everyone. It's like GUNS, we hate when they're pointed at us but love when they save our lives.

Agreed implementing all those things would be great. So the new sell would be, "get paid when someone likes your comments" (???)

Will there be a slider on the comment upvote button?

How will views be monetized?

@jarvie | April 22, 2021, 2:39 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Really i think you'll notice that there is very little marketing being done that focuses on the Reward Pool ... like i said it's very limited and is a poor foundation for longevity because people can't depend on it and the value of the tokens in that pool fluctuate so much... and I can go on and on... and most everyone else has also decided that marketing isn't effective when someone starts with the limited reward pool inflation money.

There's actually a marketing company being hired and because of a funding proposal and from what I understand they are being told not to focus heavily on that aspect either. So just seems like that approach is not happening.

PeakD for example focus is "Decentralized Social Media with True Ownership" it is easier understood and tests way better with people and it's something that doesn't fluctuate.

@omitaylor | April 22, 2021, 3:10 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

@jarvie I looked at the proposal and I have several peeves with it having gone to school for business and technology. And maybe that's just my subjective opinion. I would love to pick the brain of the Agency and person who made the proposal but then again, who am I? I think it can be done more effectively and efficiently, and it's not to be an antagonist of THEM, but in having an allegiance to the FRIENDS who have big stakes here. I'm debating if I should produce a lengthy comment with my concerns. I won't get into my challenges here in depth, but you see: rocking the boat here (even for the good of HIVE) doesn't go over well. Plus the way I talk/type can be very direct and intimidating. sigh

See most people here now don't know how deep I was into the former platform.

@omitaylor | April 22, 2021, 3:36 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

@jarvie I just tested the tip feature. Very cool. Random question, where do you stand on HBD on external markets? Is it better to circulate HBS internally? Or does that increase the demand and price for it on external markets? What's your observation of this?

@jarvie | April 22, 2021, 3:42 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

HBD on external markets? I mean yes i want them available and tradable on more markets. I really don't know what the question is here ... i'm sorry. It's also not really an area i'm really that interested in compared to other topics. sorry.

But glad you got to test out tipping.

@hive-defender | April 21, 2021, 8:46 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

please see my last post

@peakd | April 21, 2021, 2:56 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

i believe they're likely all following @keys-defender which is usually a well intentioned but sometimes seemingly reckless account.

@keys-defender | April 21, 2021, 8:34 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

please see my last post

@omitaylor | April 22, 2021, 5:47 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

@jarvie I powered up your tips hope that's cool.

@jarvie | April 22, 2021, 1:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Yes that is totally fine.

@discovery-it | April 21, 2021, 3:34 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Sorry for this!

@omitaylor | April 21, 2021, 3:55 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for coming to check on it. I really am just trying to understand everything these days @discovery-it

@discovery-it | April 21, 2021, 3:58 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

we are really sorry that a new user has had a bad experience, we will send you some positive votes, and we send you to join our discord

@discovery-it | April 21, 2021, 3:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@omitaylor | April 22, 2021, 3:24 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you @curie

@kobusu | April 23, 2021, 12:46 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

"Support for video or gif headers to actually animate. Do they? " yep in https://ecency.com/ dapps... deep text, many interesting ideas. my turn to propose something? :) hmm more fun quality games + integrations with lead labels in crypt industry, wax etc?

@omitaylor | April 24, 2021, 4:16 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Yeah I haven't gone into ecency much yet. Lots more to explore here. :)

@kobusu | April 24, 2021, 6:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

a cool thing the desktop and mobile version looks nice and as a bonus, there is a system of stimulating activity with internal points (comments, posting, stay online)) they can be spent on showing and upvoting a post ;)

@kobusu | April 24, 2021, 6:13 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Guys, let's think about how to attract Elon Musk in HIVE!?
[IMAGE: https://images.ecency.com/DQmfSN9bVVA97wuhF9jCWZEg4t2Lx6wWc4EW1Ax3yFqFW9H/image.png]
hehe

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