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Steemit: Where Was The CFO?

BY: @taskmaster4450 | CREATED: Dec. 2, 2018, 2:16 p.m. | VOTES: 502 | PAYOUT: $9.54 | [ VOTE ]

I will start by saying I know Steemit is a private corporation that reports only to it's owners. The numbers are not public nor are they under any obligation to reveal them. Thus far, @ned decided to share some of the situation with the community.

For what he did, I do applaud him standing up and taking the heat. Being open in a time of crisis is commendable although there usually is little option.

The positive out of these entire episode is that there are a lot of people who are getting reflective. Many questions are being asked which will take the entire ecosystem to a higher level over time. We see a banding together of the community with many people stepping up with ideas. There is simply a determination on the part of many not to let this fail. Failure is being removed from the table.

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One question that came to my mind is who was watching the numbers? Where was the CFO? I will say I am not sure if Steemit had one but there has to be someone responsible. Companies tend to do the numbers on a quarterly basis, at a minimum. Whether it be an accountant, bookkeeper, or someone with an excel spreadsheet, the numbers are there.

The problem with this is that only two possibilities exist. The first is the numbers did not reveal what was going on. Another possibility is they were overlooked.

Here is the bottom line: the numbers always reveal what is going on when someone looks.

Thus, we are down to someone was overlooking what was there.

I applaud the difficult decision being made to let go of staff. That is not easy especially when it is 70% of the entire company.

Yet, why were the warning signs missed? Who was minding the proverbial hen house?

Steemit did not suddenly enter into their predicament overnight. They knew what the monthly costs associated with the running the blockchain. However their revenues are derived, that is a number that is easy to monitor.

I understand that the massive price drop in STEEM caused a great many problems. The challenge I have is the price was dropping all year. If the price suddenly dropped 80% due to an insane market, then I could accept that as a cause.

The only conclusion I can make is that warnings were not heeded. Whoever was responsible for watching the financial situation feel asleep. This is of great concern.

Again, I realize that this is a private company that few of us have any involvement with. It is also true that it really should be none of our business how the operation is run and what is does financially. However, Steemit is a 3rd party risk to everyone on this blockchain. Because of the position they are in, the areas of responsibility, their financial instability puts every Steemian in jeopardy. All the businesses build upon this blockchain can be affected by Steemit.

Therefore, I think it valid to ask these questions in this time of reflection. Who was watching the numbers and how do we know this will not happen again? Even if Steemit does "catch it's breath" and move to the thriving stage, who is going to prevent this the next time?

Call me biased since I am a bit of a numbers nerd but they tell the story. We now have a community that is aware the risks Steemit poses to the entire ecosystem. While there are many questioning and coming up with solutions on the technical side, I think the financial side is worthy of similar consideration.

If Steemit insists on maintaining control over blockchain development, what assurances does the community have that it is capable of handling it's financial affairs? Who is even going to monitor it and do they understand about the need for the community to know they are financially solvent?

These are questions I hope we get an answer to over the coming months. Operating in the dark is no longer acceptable.

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@trincowski | Dec. 2, 2018, 2:29 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

I had no idea that a private corporation had the life of this Blockchain on its hands.

We need to truly decentralise this.

The Blockchain must find a way to survive even if SteemIt.com fades away.

@sequentialvibe | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:02 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Here here. Steem is not decentralized until the development is fully decentralized!

@programmingvalue | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:06 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

There are many other platforms to use Steem besides Steemit.

@trincowski | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:17 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Yes, but it seems that the Blockchain wouldn't survive without SteemIt.com. That is not good enough. We need to find a way to survive if they walk away from this.

@programmingvalue | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:41 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

The Steem blockchain lives on the computers of the hundreds of witnesses out there. We should be fine, someone else will take on the mantel to keep this blockchain worth hundreds of millions of dollars up.

@carlgnash | Dec. 10, 2018, 8:01 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

only sorta kinda true. For pretty much every app and front end built on top of the steem blockchain to run, they depend on the api nodes that Steemit, Inc. runs at the cost of several million $ a year. If Steemit, Inc. stopped subsidizing the rest of the players on the blockchain by paying the costs of running the servers for the api nodes, nothing would work. It is possible that things would eventually start back up if someone else decided to foot that cost, but currently it doesn't look like any of the apps or front ends could bear that cost. So pretty much, if Stinc goes under, the blockchain for all intents and purposes stops even if witnesses are still running.

@edicted | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

If they walk away from the blockchain we still have plenty of time to figure out how to continue development. How many people do you know that want to revert back to a previous hard fork? We could probably halt development for an entire year and be fine.

@rudyardcatling | Dec. 3, 2018, 4:34 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

@trincowski, it doesn't , the blockchain of steem is not steemit.inc alone although they are probably responsible for the main development. Nobody actually "owns" the steemchain but steemit.inc IS a private corporation operating on it, as far as i know the whole thing is opensource (kinda hard to hide the mechanics on a public ledger anyway). Even if steemit.inc were to sink completely that doesn't mean the steemchain would be gone. I dont pay much heed to the elite but i know at least one witness who paid for the servers in advance, even in a time like this, and i'm sure he's not the only one. There's plenty of people who have stakes in this , i doubt it will go down anytime soon. Steemit is just a U.I. (user interface) , ONE application that runs on the steemchain.
I don't want to go too much into history but originally the plan and ideas were ned and dan larrimer (who quit for some reason that's none of my business and completely irrelevant at this time).

the chain will survive, i don't know how many nodes are running, but i'm quite sure it will be a bit more than the top 20 (or is it 50?) in the protectorate who run this thing by voting. There's a whole agreement on how things are done. No changes are passed until at least a majority of the top 20 (or 50) votes on it, but that doesn't mean they're the only ones running nodes to keep this thing up and running.
Just snoop around a bit i'm sure you'll find plenty of people who know how the whole thing really works ... @timcliff might be willing to answer a few questions, take time for it where others won't. I don't see @yabapmatt or @dragosroua abandoning ship now they're actually taking off for real although those might , if they find a way to do their thing independently but its a bit more than steemmonsters running there for them, the bots , for one thing afaik , and more, iSteemd is sponsored by @yabapmatt, steembottracker and what not, i dont know the half of it since i'm not into politics.

What i see is the result from the tekkies doing the marketing AND ... too much focus on "the holy grail of content" and the "its not about the money"-syndrome as i like to call it.
It's a blockchain, with a currency to it, OFCOURSE its about the money, lol. And i think some people are getting REAL cold showers at the moment, finding out that it IS ... in the first place, you know, grocery money for breakfast helps a lot to start that working day.

My question there @crypto.piotr btw is not about the books or anything, i think they just held on, "hoping", my question is, WHO is the sales department ? why are there no major brandnames on steem ?

because no one called them, and no one sold it to them, its the only reason i can think of, born from the fact that "the originals" were all people who came into this with laden pockets, and a bit clueless on how normal people function and think

i think

anyone here with a heart for "the community" who deems his or herself apt at sales and marketing should be pushing to sell promo-accounts to brands , anywhere in the world, purely for advertising

non intrusive, no need for ads all over the screen, people can CHOOSE to visit the promo-feed, interact with the brand's company / p.r. / research dept. directly and in return get a chunk of the ad-money through votes and contests.

Alas, i dont walk the walk , talk the talk and certainly am not the insistor or patient smiley person to be able to dance the dance but i look all around and i see people here who are full of "build your network the right way"

so i think they got a chance now :)

i keep saying it : flixxo had coca-cola AND apple money BEFORE they had accounts ...

so why couldnt this technical masterpiece get that ?

well, imo

because tekkies SUCK at sales :)

merry christmas all across the world in blockchainland btw, steemit is not the only place where the turkeys willl be smaller this year and there's also this thing on 2-3 year old companies where that age seems to be some kind of hurdle

i'm not worried for one second that this thing is going down however, even if steemit.inc would end up having to maintain the U.I. with two people paid at belgian wage lol and move the updates from two to one a year ... ethereum is talking big on two or three years in the future (impossible to plan if you ask me, that far ahead) Tron was talking about "a decade" last year

flixxo got the mullah before bèta =)

nothing is lost yet

it's an opportunity

or as you call it a time of reflection

not a time for pointing fingers, that's what politicians do, problems need to be solved, solutions need to be created, fingerpointing wastes time.

Plenty of time to debate that after we all get our lambo down here :D

oh its @taskmaster ... woopsy sorry i saw it on piotr 's ... well ..
a bit of resilience, the whole of planet Crypton is suffering from natural disasters that can only be induced with people at a money-level waaaaay above , but its not the first time "bitcoin was surely dead" lol
applications and ad-money, if everyone's just speculating it won't work

@conradsuperb | Dec. 2, 2018, 2:31 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great to see Ned being transparent with the community, but you are exactly right. I hope - together - we can solve these problems to propel the Steem blockchain to the level we all know it to be capable, and deserving of

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@programmingvalue | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:07 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

The transparency is appreciated, but it also feels like it's out of desperation.

@conradsuperb | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:14 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Yeah, I mean maybe so, but it’s also nice to let everyone know what’s going on here

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@jrb450 | Dec. 2, 2018, 2:33 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

There are certain structures and controls in a company that should prevent this kind of thing. Why was the fate of the company dependent on market volatility? Why weren't they hedged against it? Los numeros no son mentirosos.......

@tts | Dec. 2, 2018, 3:41 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@clumsysilverdad | Dec. 2, 2018, 4:31 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

it's gotta be a new dawn, otherwise it'll be a new sunset

@newageinv | Dec. 2, 2018, 5:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

He presented himself a couple of months ago but it was probably already to late to deal with the issues at hand, rising costs and low prices. I would believe that very few thought Steem would see an additional 60% decline so sometimes these things are unpredictable. @randybaker has not been back on but would be great if an update would come if he is still there.

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@fknmayhem | Dec. 2, 2018, 5:33 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

The CFO only started in August (IIRC), after the opportunity to accumulate some years or runway.

While that is a sad coincidence, the timing of a CFO fits in any regular startup. In fact, Steemit may have recruited one before any usual progress already. A CFO normally comes only in the later stage before B-round, often early after the B-round even.

Most companies don't reach that stage before 3-4 years. The B-round is the most difficult of all to achieve and thus while the title's question is valid... the CFO was there but they only started after the golden opportunity. That was unlucky timing but not a poor decision in itself.

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@sequentialvibe | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:01 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I am sure the warnings were indeed heeded and they held on as long as they could hoping the market would turn around. I have seen it happen this way many times. It is hard to let staff go.

@programmingvalue | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:06 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Good point, Steemit is clearly run by inexperienced executives.

@pyemoney | Dec. 2, 2018, 6:20 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

That was one of the biggest red flags for me was that the business and financial acumen seemed to be missing.

@chekohler | Dec. 2, 2018, 7:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I think there was a bit of arrogance that the current crypto validations would hold out and they would be able to ride an average value for their tokens to maintain a burn rate!

Like you said it didn’t happen overnight and I don’t see why when the market hit ATH didn’t they cash in and build runway for at least the next 3 years!

It may seem like simple fixes but it’s not always that tech companies know how to manage money, I’ve seen it first hand working in tech myself! We burn money like there’s no tomorrow and we shocked when we go belly up

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@chekohler | Dec. 2, 2018, 7:14 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I think there was a bit of arrogance that the current crypto validations would hold out and they would be able to ride an average value for their tokens to maintain a burn rate!

Like you said it didn’t happen overnight and I don’t see why when the market hit ATH didn’t they cash in and build runway for at least the next 3 years!

It may seem like simple fixes but it’s not always that tech companies know how to manage money, I’ve seen it first hand working in tech myself! We burn money like there’s no tomorrow and we shocked when we go belly up

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@socky | Dec. 2, 2018, 8:33 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

There is serious problems with their business plan. It only has one direction which is to bank everything on the value of the currency. Imagine if Amazon never broke free of just selling books on-line... Where would they be today? Most likely out of business. What is more ironic is that Steemit Inc did nothing to promote the value and availability of STEEM currency. You would think they would at least spend resources protecting their only source of revenue.

Now they are in a situation in which they need to "adapt and overcome". @ned needs to create other sources of revenue for Steemit Inc prosper. Think of the Amazon model. They didn't just stick with one thing.

If @ned is a real CEO, we will see adaptive measures put in place. Cost cutting is only a band-aid. It will never fix the root of the companies ability to generate revenue.

@ssjsasha | Dec. 3, 2018, 12:20 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I am going to finally have 10,000 sp by the end of this week hopefully... If the prices go lower somehow I will try to get even more, maybe will just hold onto steem hoping for a x5-x10 increase

@taskmaster4450 | Dec. 3, 2018, 1:08 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I cannot argue with that logic. I am doing the same thing.

Although at these prices, I expect a much bigger multiple return down the road.

@rudyardcatling | Dec. 3, 2018, 4:38 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

in order to be attractive to speculators the price needs to be HIGH :) the best performing in trades are the highest prices, somehow that makes it attractive to big money and one billionnaire > one million plankton

but id be comfy if it vibed between $5 and $10 really, stability is another issue, especially for a utility token like this

and yea, alas i'm a broke f*ck but if i had 20k to spare now i'd throw 10 or 15 at it ... all or nothing :p

no risk = no gain, unless you're already rich, in that case you can just live off of the noise

@mexbit | Dec. 3, 2018, 6:17 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I share the same opinion... Hopefully @ned reads this...

@crypto.piotr | Dec. 3, 2018, 7:57 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @taskmaster4450

Great choice of topic.

> Many questions are being asked which will take the entire ecosystem to a higher level over time.

You've nailed it. We have entered situation where it's either Steemit will die or will become stronger.

> There is simply a determination on the part of many not to let this fail

Surprissingly community here seem to be more supportive (so far) than I ever expected. Hopefully Ned will not abandon us half way - as this is the biggest risk I can forsee.

> Yet, why were the warning signs missed? Who was minding the proverbial hen house?

The problem was, that Ned didnt expect such a dramatic drop in price of STEEM caused by drop of price of BTC in the first place.

> Steemit did not suddenly enter into their predicament overnight.

It kind of did. For very long time BTC was still over 6k and most people believed that in november and december price will grow up. And then week later we tested another bottom which is just to much and Steemit cannot support itself any more with their shrinking resources. Wrong predictions and business that relies to much on hope that market will change direction.

> Even if Steemit does "catch it's breath" and move to the thriving stage, who is going to prevent this the next time?

Perhaps someone would decide to buy Steemit? I wouldnt be surprissed if one of current IT giants would use their off-shore based companies to purchase Steemit to avoid direct connections. That's also a possibility.

I completly agree that monitoring numbers is essencial. Again: great post. Thx for sharing your knowledge with us.

> If you found this article informative, please give an upvote and resteem.

Resteemed already! You got yourself new solid and loyal follower.

Yours
Piotr

@ervin-lemark | Dec. 3, 2018, 9:44 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

> if Steemit insists on maintaining control over blockchain development,

Do they insist?

Also, we can all see that there are many better skilled and more devoted teams doing great work on Steem platform. They could easily take over the blockchain part of the job ... With proper community governance and consensus, of course.

When you talk about the numbers - the part that bothers me is that steem as an asset is controlled by Steemit Inc. They do own we-don't-know-how-much steem ...

https://steemitboard.com/ranking/index.php?p=0&s=vests

Let's add SP of steemit and steem accounts. We get 56 million SP. Which is currently worth $19 million. More than enough to run a proper business without sacking people!!!

My guess is that Ned is not telling us something ...

@mintymile | Dec. 3, 2018, 2:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I have been concerned because I am part of Steemit and was excited its all blockchain technology. We have the right to know about the financial position of Steemit, they need to communicate with us. Creadibility a little bit I am thinking, but unless they disclose things this doubth would linger on. I thought maybe I can earn some STEEM and money through this, but now aways I doubth it, but would write anyway. I hold no funds here and earned nothing, so nothing to lose money wise. Very pertinent article, we require answers with more disclosers. And yes decentralisation, not cool to be kept in the dark.

@fitinfun | Dec. 4, 2018, 4:13 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

"The only conclusion I can make is that warnings were not heeded."

I'm an accountant and CPA, and I so agree with you on this one remark. Not only were they not heeded, they were not even known or anticipated. I am not one to get involved with numbers when it is "not my job" and the numbers are not to be found here in any case.

But this revelation by @ned after so much silence has me very worried for the future of this place. I have never been sure of it, this recent communication makes me feel much worse.

Back in accounting school, a prof stated that when the focus changes from growth to cost cutting, look for the business to fail soon after. I then saw that exact process in many places I worked over the years as well as at least 5 other social media platforms that have failed while I was on them over the last 8 years.

I hope steemit bucks the trend, but I don't feel hope. For now I just keep posting and trying to stay active with my other platforms.

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@yuriy4 | Dec. 4, 2018, 4:07 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Read the article, I really liked it. Thank you

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@andyjem | Dec. 5, 2018, 9:46 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I ha e very much enjoyed your article and the engagement with it. I came to steemit to find a new social media that I could engage with after FB. Became so predictable and boring. I left that platform in April this year and dont intend to return. I didn't really think about the buisness side of steemit. I just wanted to have a new window on the world that didn't just let me know what people were having for breakfast.
So I will be keeping an eye on your blogs as recomended to me by @piotr and hope I can get some valuable insite into the workings of not only crypto but @steemit its self.

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@boyanpro | Dec. 5, 2018, 11:56 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Obviously nobody was watching the numbers when they succeeded to build so wasteful AWS infrastructure.

@ravijojla | Dec. 7, 2018, 7:12 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hello, @taskmaster4450!

I found your post in @crypto-piotr's delegetors feed and stopped here to leave a support comment saying I'd be glad to follow you.

Have a great day!

Ravijojla

@wakeupkitty | Dec. 9, 2018, 8:44 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

To me it feels someone did start this all, it became a success and he/she left... plus left us alone to deal ourselves.

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