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Hard Fork 25 is fast approaching and will be making significant changes to how curation rewards work, add the ability to convert Hive for HBD, as well as some other changes.
Each hard fork tries to bring us closer to a perfect ecosystem. In my opinion, we will never get there, but if we can keep making progress towards it, I think we will be in good shape.
What do you think is one thing we can change with Hive to be wildly successful?
For me the answer is simple, more users. I firmly believe almost every problem we have on Hive will be better or fixed completely with more users.
Price, More users means more people needed resource credits and wanting to increase their influence. If we had 1M users that would be at least 20-50M Hive needed for a minimum amount of resource credits (20-50) each. Although I do see dApps being the only ones to onboard at this level and by then we will have RC Pools which will help reduce the need to delegate Hive Power directly. There will still be a significantly higher demand on having Hive.
Rewards, I think this is a big area of improvement as well. While many will not want to see more competition for their rewards, I think it will be a big improvement. While the rewards of everyone might go down as they are spread to more people, we won't have as much "clumping" of rewards on popular people. Curators will have more quality content (hopefully) to curate, and search engines will have more topical content to index. It is likely the increased demand on Hive will counteract the thinned out rewards with an increased price.
dApps, Imaging dApps like dCity, Splinterlands, Leo with over 1M users? These projects have been wildly successful with a relatively small userbase. With many more users will likely mean many more dApps and many more users using Hive dApps in general. As dApps grow their userbase a snowball effects starts to happen where their users bring in more users. Hive is small enough that one successful dApp can easily double or triple our userbase over night.
While I think increasing our userbase is likely the most critical thing we can do, there are a few other things that I think would be critical to our success.
Marketing
We need people to know we exist, we need developers to know the value Hive offers over other blockchains. This can only be done with marketing. Marketing doesn't always means ads, it can be other indirect ways to get attention, like a Hackathon, interviews, podcasts collaborations, or getting out in VR and hosting events.
Smart contracts
Smart contracts are nothing new or revolutionary, and many blockchains already have them. They do open the door for trustless dApps that are not centralized on one person. It also allows you to build things that would be possible without them. I always use Gods Unchained an example of this. Hive would be wildly successful if we got a project like Gods Unchained to use Hive rather than Ethereum. A big hurdle to doing this is the lack of smart contracts.
What do you think is the biggest change we could make to make Hive more popular?
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And the longer answer is:
The coordinated effort of all parties involved - dapps producers, big stake owners, marketing (be it by agencies or amateurs like me and you).
In order to do that we need better governance. We need some structure. I know that putting the structure on things is frowned upon and people tend to argue and see the leaders as greedy bastards. They only see their reflection :)
The hive needs some structure. Maybe a coop which would be a strong partner to represent Hive and be a partner to the big players outside the ecosystem, to possible investors of money, knowledge, ideas, users, ...
Another take on the what we need question is that we should take the up-side-down approach too.
Let's ask ourselves What we want? and work with small steps to get toward those goals.
Just a ramble ...
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First off, I love HIVE, but you're right about the resource credits for new users.
I joined last week and was eager and enthusiastic, trying to explore this exciting new eco-system, and then BAM! I think I made 3 or 4 comments and I was frozen out for 4 days till my resource credit increased.
That's enough to put a large chunk of people off and go looking for another block-chain.
I really like the feel of HIVE but the system is a little opaque. Even hive.io doesn't give a really simple layperson's FAQ about the practical differences between Hive power, Hive and Hive Dollar, let alone Ecency points etc.
And then there's the question of buying HIVE. I don't know the ins and outs but it took me 8 hours to get a binance account, verify it (several times), buy crypto, convert to hive and fund my wallet. It was a right old faff!
I'm an artist and I'd like to list good content on NFT Showroom, but if non-technical-minded buyers can't just buy HIVE at a dapp with a credit card, (like say Nifty Gateway) then we'll forever be reliant on other crypto-savvy users migrating from more established blockchains.
@steevc | April 27, 2021, 9:43 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [
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I think more active users is essential. I can see from the stats that hundreds are joining, but how many are real people who actually do anything? I suspect there has been a bit of a 'land grab' by some people.
Hive is still pretty much unknown, so we do need marketing. I think we need people in certain niches spreading the word. A lot of artists and musicians could be benefiting. The Hive name is an issue as you can't easily search for it. Other stuff comes up.
Getting users is one thing and retaining them is another. I know some get nice votes on a first post, but they are unlikely to keep getting that. They do have to put the work in.
Usability has improved over the early days of Steem. Peakd is pretty good and with Keychain you don't have to worry too much about keys once you set it up. We do need good tutorials that are easily found. People can be paid to produce those via proposals or other means.
I have seen some recent issues with people flipping out over 'losing' rewards thanks to a whale cancelling votes by certain trolls. These people have done pretty well, but feel they are being victimised. I've tried to talk them down, but they may spread bad vibes that don't help us. I think the concept of downvotes needs to be normalised as part of Hive.
There's lots of exciting stuff going on. We just need more people to realise what potential Hive has.
There are a lot of things but more users will be the only guarantee for success. The main problem is the same that it has always been. HIVE is not user friendly. Most people will give up long before they get to the level that they can see success on the chain.
Marketing is important but needs to be targeted at developers or for parts of the hive eco-system that can bring new users in and hold them. LEO, splinterlands ect.
For this to work we need better tools to make it a simpler experience to get involved on the chain. Over time they can dive deeper but to start they need an app to join, be noticed and get some tokens.
I think that tribes would be a key part of this if developed to the right level. The ability for any existing and knowledgeable user to create, modify and moderate a tokenized tribe would be great to bring in more users. If every current community on hive could do this for a couple of hundred HBD and then market that tribe to outside people and have an economy tied to hive you could see our userbase expand massively in a short period.
It would definitely take light accounts with twitter, facebook, google sign-up.
Ad revenue to fund the token.
Evergreen content would be a huge bonus, a way to reward infinitely.
A way to buy/sell to fiat maybe with a digital debit card.
The closer that you could get them to web2 sites the better, just tokenized and immutable.
From a developer side, having tools to build or run an app on hive simply and cost effectively would be the selling point. Fast, free transactions are the key with an existing community to jump into any new project being a huge bonus. What ever tools they need to get started should be ready and waiting to be integrated so that they can standardize the build and cut out a lot of the heavy work where they need to build from scratch.
They should be able to start designing an app while having lite accounts ready to plug in, different log-in methods ready to plug in, a hive based wallet and token ready to plug in. Have the building blocks at their disposal so that everybody doesn't have to waste time and money building the same things over and over again. Speed it up and reduce the costs by having the code ready for new apps to run with.
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How about either redefining or fixing Proof-of-Brain? PoB gets comprised of two revolutionary new token features. One is the rewards pool which gets used to incentivize content creation and curation. The other is a voting system that they said harnesses the "wisdom of the crowd" to assess the value of content and distribute the said tokens.
I'm sorry to say that Steem/HIVE has never harnessed crowd wisdom. To harness the "wisdom of the crowd," all accounts need an equal say, and there must be mass (non-automated) participation for the consensus to be anywhere near accurate. Neither of the two elements used to tap into crowd wisdom can happen here.
As soon as you come to the truth of the matter and realize that it was a fallacy from day one, then you can abandon the notion that you're helping to reach any near-accurate consensus with either upvotes or downvotes. And that's the beautiful thing about the "wisdom of the crowd," when applied correctly, it gets it right damn near every time.
You're going to need a new system to get Proof-of-Brain to work. Crowd wisdom cannot and will not happen here, and because people are still pretending it does, it's driving a lot of people away in the name of a fugazi consensus and broken PoB.
The reason people were amazed by crowd wisdom is that it's stunningly accurate when tapped into correctly. However, when it does not get harnessed correctly, the results are stunningly poor. Fix PoB before another one of the clones does, and you'll have a first-mover advantage.
Piggybacking on what @adamada mentioned (as well as a few others including yourself), I think Hive can benefit from large community adoption and onboarding. Crypto is scary for many people and I think a good % of those people who are scared are also hesitant to follow online guides or trust strangers when it comes to their money.
Community leaders can help transition those communities to Hive using their existing rapport, trust, and experience within their community. I deal with lots of different types of people outside of Hive and plan to onboard a large community later in the year once I have a few more things ready on my side for them. I think this also goes hand in hand with great marketing as we reach out to communities and help them understand the value of bringing their community to Hive (such as myself).
I think we can continue to create great value in Hive through second layer opportunities such as $PIZZA or $POB or $BRO or any other active projects and by keeping users IN THE HIVE ecosystem, rather than sending them outside of the ecosystem (such as BSC). Without writing a book, I really hope to see more time spent in this area as community adoption can seriously thrive through second layer opportunities.
I also agree, more dApps. People love 'things to do'.
I'm excited for the future of our ecosystem! Thank you for your post.
1) More marketing but also a lot more curating. Those new people coming in need to understand how the system works, how to properly use it and so on. Simply promoting the heck out of hive wont bring masses of people in your retention rate would be low.
2) More apps of variation that use hive. Projectblank would be a perfect example of this. I don't feel Cub really brought any value to HIVE as Hive isn't even included as one of the farms or dens.
3) We need to be smarter about how we use the DAO funds. Paying some mega corp a crap ton of money to market hive is going to have little to no impact mark my words on that right now. I think it's one of the dumbest and wasteful funded projects at the moment.
4)Spread the wealth. Too much hive is locked up in far too few accounts which pretty much means whatever they say goes and no one else really has an opinion in terms of vote. It makes its rather centralized right now.
5) Remove delegations. I feel like delegations are abused and remove the entire concept of POB. It encourages far fewer accounts to actually go curate content instead of each person doing it themselves.
The most important though. Proper marketing to bring people in to use the platform, investors to invest into the platform and hype. I've worked hand in hand with a number of influencers that are now starting to come over to the HIVE platform and use it and love it. The reach is far lower however they also have managed to sell some of the highest value HIVE NFTs to date and powered it up.
Marketing is important but the friction to on board people needs to be lower and easier to understand that comes from.
- Every person helping with onboarding
- Enough resource credits to make a daily post and a few comments. It's going to be hard to track this but there has to be a way.
- Easier sign up, Leo finance has done the best job of this so far but it could be taken even one step further.
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With all due respect @themarkymark
It's hard not to have an impression, that you say one thing and do something opposite. You admit that HIVE need more users to thrive, and at the same time you're pushing away many current users out from HIVE with your aggression and hostile behaviours.
We've invested recently 4k usd to purchase HIVE tokens and we've leveraged our voting power via dlease.io. We did it because we wanted to support community which we've been part of for over a year. Our goal was to enjoy curation rewards and upvote content created by people we value. And it seem, that that our investment in HIVE has been nothing but HUGE mistake. Our curation rewards are being wiped out by you. So what's the point in investing even any penny any more?
You've been bullying many small users, only because they are associated with projecthope community. Pushing so many away from Hive. Lately many discord channels (especially those spanish speaking ones) are buzzing with people describing this blockchain as very hostile place to be.
We're currently considering powering down our small stake and selling it. And this is exactly what we recommend to people we know here. You may have forgoten, that person who is unhappy about some product/service will share this feeling with many people. Targeting over 100 users of our community, forcing them to abandon Hive. How bad of a publicity do you think it will bring to this blockchain? Having such a crowd of people, who will share their story with many others.
Story of being abused and humiliated by those, who are supposed to be spine of this blockchain.
Our goal was to invest 1k usd on monthly basis. In Hive. Not in steem. But we're currently considering canceling that plan, since this place is so hostile.
IMO, the main thing Hive needs to thrive is quality. I shy away from sharing my content on Hive, even though it's the only publicly available writing I have, because much of the quality is sub-par. I'm hesitant to spread the word for Hive because I feel like I'm trying to shill people on an MLM.
I'm here because I have a vision of what Hive will be, not because of what it is. It's a big ask for newcomers to try a new platform out because of that vision.
PeakD is a quality blogging platform relative to Hive.Blog, but it's not publicly available to people without an account. Within peakD, quality is hard to find. Discovery — one of the biggest aspect of successful social platforms — is rudimentary on PeakD, both in feed and search (search barely works!). And PeakD seems like the most successful social platform we have!!
I'd say Hive needs one, small quality feed to get things going. This can be done with a community, though this community may have to be closed / invite only. At least initially, as way to cultivate quality. Maybe this is sacrilege to some, and seems like censorship. The difference is, this is just one community and anyone can start a community with their own rules. I think that's fair.
One way to do this might be to target a subreddit, and port it to Hive. Create an account for everyone that posted in subreddit in the past 30 days, port all posts from the past 30 days, and DM people on the subreddit their keys. You could even go a step further and airdrop them (funded from DHF / posts?) to get them started.
I'm sure many will hate this idea, but it's a thought. I'm curious what people have to say.
I don't understand many of the things that are said here, especially the background of how tokens work and so on, but I want to say something as a newbie that I am. I registered in October 2020 and yes, one of the reasons for not continuing at that time was internet failures, but it was not the only thing. It influenced the fact that I felt lost because the network is extensive, somewhat difficult to understand and manage (I still don't know it); there is not (or I have not found it yet) a community or an advisory group that guides you a little beyond recommending you to read or look for the post of "x" (which is also appreciated). Starting without having a minimum of Hive, and RC with whom you can interact, takes away one's desire and many decide to give up: you can't post, you can't comment and you don't know why (I posted only once). I tried again this April because I am a reluctant, resilient and I like challenges and I know that nothing is easy. I received a delegation from @thehive (and I don't know if it's the same blog or a user, but thanks), some advice from @bluerobo and that's what I started with but believe me, in this month that I'm back, I still don't know the basics of how it works because of its complexity. It drives people away. Besides this, I want to be honest: just as I have read 100% quality posts, I have come across others that I don't think should be there because their format or content is more for FB, TW or IG, and, the worst? With a great amount of upvotes and rewards, despite having spelling mistakes, writing errors, inconsistencies, etc. And being even more sincere, I have observed that more rewards have users who seem to be under the "sponsorship" of someone and I do not mean that this is bad, no, but that all new users should have the same benefits and opportunities and be able to be directly in a group that advises you at least the first month. This is my neophyte opinion.
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