SO FRIGGIN' AWESOME! :D

May I ask what method of encryption you're using?

Thank you for making this super lovely thing. I hope it takes off and becomes mainstream and has a lot of pull requests and becomes huge. <3

edit:

> Update Interval
>
>Every x minutes (10 by default) the messenger is checking for new messages. Minimum value is 1 minute.

Hmmm, will it be able to listen to the blockchain in real time in the future?

Thank you @cryptosharon!

The encryption for the messages is via memo-key, so the same that Steemit uses.

And the encryption for the keys (to save them locally) is via a node crypto library - should be SHA 256 if I'm correct.

> Hmmm, will it be able to listen to the blockchain in real time in the future?

It gets every x minutes the updated account history from the blockchain and checks if there are any new ones in there.

I'll have to read the code to learn the specifics then. :) Thank you for answering.

I'm still curious about the second question. Do you think you'll program an automatic listener to the blockchain stream of events to be able to have real-time notifications of incoming messages?

Maybe a cooperation with gina could be implemented ;)

SHA 256 is hash and therefore asymmetric, I guess you encrypt it by some symmetric cypher. You should enforce strong passwords for the encryption because otherwise it might not be very safe.

You are right about the first part. Sha-256 is a hash function, but it's not symmetric encryption.

symmetric encryption dictates a given key K can be used to both transform plain text into cipher text and vice-versa.

A hashing function cannot be reversed because it's a large to small key space function, meaning it's only one way, there's no reversing a hash, unless you try all possibilities until you get the result.

There are publica tables on some hashing algos, they are giant covering hashs for the most known combinations.

But, a SHA-256 as the name suggests generates a 256-bit output.

Since one bit can be represented with two distincts values (i.e. 0 and 1)

we have all the possible combinations being 2^256 which is a number I not even know the name.

about the string password, that a myth that must fall at any cost.

Humans can NEVER produce strong passwords. It's up to the software engineers and cryptographers to move from a low entropy input to a large entropy input while balancing the computational recurrent cost.

:)

Eloquently put ;)

I might be a real noob, but why would I use this instead of Steemit chat or Discord?

There are two main reasons:

1.) To start a conversation with a Steem Account.

Transfers are getting used by many Steem users but mostly without encryption. It's easier to get in touch with a Steem user through transfers (messages) rather than to try and find the steem.chat or discord name. And the messenger automatically decrypts and encrypts messages for you - so there is no reason to not use encrypted messages.

The conversation can of course be switched to another plattform like discord after the initial few messages.

2.) To easily send transfers to promote your posts e.g. Smartsteem.com

It's really simple to send transfers for promotion of your posts with the messenger. Smartsteem.com also supports encrypted memos by the way ;)

Thanks!

Those are external platforms with individual accounts and requirements (they also request more info than the Steem blockchain does). This is straight on the blockchain, so you should consider the pros of the blockchain as the pros of this messaging app:

• append-only features (can't delete messages)
• identity verification (can't send messages as someone else, which does happen all the time on Discord and Steemit.chat)
• ??
• profit

Great inventory I'll call it. It sure will benefit many steemians. I wonder the difference between the plain text and the encrypted one

The blockchain is public and the memo of each transfer you make can be easily read by other people. This means that if you send a plain text message, everyone will be able to read what you said. If you want only the intended receiver to be able to read the message, you encrypt it by using the person's public memo key, and the person can only decrypt it by using their own private memo key (which only they can see)

Ok, thanks for the explanations. I appreciate

Really a very cool release
It makes communication easier
You are a wonderful person and very successful
I wish you...

>messaging is only possible when the wallet is unlocked and an active key imported. Encryption is only possible when the account's memo key has been imported as well

This is great for security, im so excited too. Thank you for all your work on here, this is one awesome development

Thank you @mistakili! :)

Wow. This is so so cool!!
I cannot wait to experience it myself. I will definitely set up and give my feedback.

Wishing you all the best in this venture, may it be as successful as your other venture so to speak!

Continue to work for the betterment of this platform to help minnows like myself. A big heart felt Thank you to you on their behalf 👌

Thank you!

Honestly, it is a wonderful project, and with confidence will succeed, it will allow us members and users ease of communication, I like the idea very much, I wish you good luck my dear friend @therealwolf , all the best for you 👍👍👍😃😉

Thanks for sharing valuable information.i appreciate your Every post.
I follow you @therealwolf

Would love to have messenger like this in browser.
This app looks nice anc clean. Is it WPF Framework?

Oooh, that would be cool :) Although I prefer to be able to install things myself. It's safer for encryption and such. Otherwise, every connection would have to be made through Steemconnect and I'm not sure whether Steemconnect has any functionality that allows us to use our memo key.

It doesn't ;)

Wow Very Intresting post ..and very helpful ..sir ....thanks for share this post

You think it is necessary to make a messenger ? I mean some peeps having hard time replying to the comments . What more in direct messages. Nothing personal thou, I just wanna know if I should do the messenger thingy ?

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It's not necessary, but it's a huge improvement :)

> I mean some peeps having hard time replying to the comments.

Lol, I haven't seen any of those. And it looks like it's pretty easy, just like putting your password.

This is revolutionary, I think. It's the first app I've seen that uses the memo key that was left stagnant in a "maybe it will be of use in the future". Now we have encrypted messaging directly on the blockchain. If people don't know how to use it, well, that's bad for them, but for those who will be able to use it, it will be a huge improvement in authenticated communications.

It's not the first app, here is the real Steem Messenger by the way : https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@kingswisdom/steem-messenger-v0-0-3-private-beta-session-image-encryption-and-many-more.

Actually, having to send 0.001 Steem for each message is pretty archaic.Plus, there's a 3second delay for each transaction, a limitation size of about 2kb per transaction. So no image chats, no data transfer.Plus your discussions are exposed on the blockchain even if it is encrypted.

The real Steem Messenger is off chain based, and have the same level of trust and security as the blockchain. It gives way more scalability, and does not require insane authorization to work

I am a new user too; so are you trying to say wallet transfers are not encrypted? Also for each chat message I have to send 0.001 SBD, and enter password? I am just trying to understand the utility...

Many thanks!

Wallet transfers are not encrypted, indeed. If you go to https://steemit.com/@cryptosharon/transfers, for example, you'll be able to read all the memos that I have sent and that people have sent to me.

And yeap, or more SBD or STEEM.

edit: Screenshots from @therealwolf's wallet

Plain text message:

[IMAGE: https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXtrfzsGU7TaYKx8YVR1xpdkwQkfxBqQZz83JFMJYbgws]

Encrypted message:

[IMAGE: https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmPEwFF6Ldas371FKBKbcF7WGiXcUWfr4fwGg5wSkeLkiE]

Thanks; but you will still be able to see person 1 send 2.383 SBD to person 2? Is that correct?

Indeed! The amounts cannot be encrypted, only the memos. Amount exchanges from account to account are always inevitably public.

wow! thanks for your project

Resources for inter communications are badly needed here. Answers to my original newbie questions were generously granted by experienced users who weren't obligated to answer FAQ.

That's really good and informative post

It keeps getting better and better because here you've given even more reason for users to convert from Facebook to Steemit, with little recourse. The train running on STEEM, can't wait to see where it all goes.

Excitedly hanging on,
C.H

Thank you @therealwolf for sharing!

Nice work! Running locally looks good.

[IMAGE: https://gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmX1L6XyLK1YxCmJ2srEVRK4AxDuTHZCFfSdRvAQqgHBZN]

Great! You're using npm or yarn? And which node version?

Yarn I have nvm set to 8.9.4 now.

Ah ok. Because node 10.0 is giving out a warning which can be solved with a paramter. Will add that to the github guide.

I'm using node 10, so I'll be looking forward to that mysterious parameter.

This is great. This is exactly what steemit needs. A messenger program will make it so much easier to communicate on steemit. I will be downloading it for my computer. Hopefully you will be able to make it Android compatible in the future. That would be a great app.

I know you are a person full of surprises, conggrat :)

First I was thinking, well why is that necessary and why the heck do we need our active key here.

But after reading it again it makes much more sense now and could be a great tool for the Steem blockchain. I'm curious where this project will go. Hopefully far beyond Beta!

One question:
It does have access to our Wallets right? That's why the active key?!

Exactly - the messenger sends transfers with your wallet.

Ok thanks for clarifying it. It might repel a few people though

You're using memos, there is no other way to send a memo on the blockchain than through your active key.

Otherwise, you'd have to use posts and comments and other such things.

Hello @maxinpower !

Please check out the REAL Steem Messenger here : https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@kingswisdom/steem-messenger-v0-0-3-private-beta-session-image-encryption-and-many-more

No Active key needed. No transfer. Only pure security.

I will be announcing this weekend the security protocol of the real Steem Messenger, stay tuned for this :)

Awesome dude, And open-source. You Rock! Can't wait to check it out.

what about the Android version. Users like me are missing out

You’ve done an awesome job as always for a service that we’ve all been waiting for. It’s people like you that push this platform beyond what we ever imagined. Thanks @therealwolf

While I applaud the development effort, I’m wondering why this is actually necessary.

You can currently send messages to anyone. You can encrypt those messages. You can receive and read those messages. They already require keys and a minimal 0.001 fee.

Why would anyone need to use this specific “Steem Messenger?” It has all of the same required functions as current wallet transfers...but does not improve the messaging system. It’s pretty much exactly the same, except you would now use another third-party app.

Am I missing something here?

Not to mention private messages were already introduced around the start of Steemit. The name of this invention is called steemit.chat.

The goal never was to replace steem.chat. Rather to give an easy way to initiate contact and send messages via the blockchain and if needed afterwards - switching to other plattforms (steem.chat, discord) is always possible.

It's always good to have an alternate platform to steemit chat. As it has been down a lot of times in the last year.

And a lot of users are not on discord.

I was waiting for some service like yours for a long time. If this one works properly, I will not use discord and chat anymore!

how about the delays between sending a paid memo?

Steem creates a new block every 3 seconds

1. Steemit.chat is not on the blockchain
2. You can use any name you want on Steemit.chat if it's not already used. This has led to scammers using the names of big organisations to make people believe that they are trustable. Many newbies have lost their funds and accounts because of this.

I faced that problem sometimes too. You don't know who is authentic and who is not. Anyone can use any name on steemit.chat.

My name on Chat is the same as heerre. Plus, you can verify me on Keybase as well.

> You can currently send messages to anyone. You can encrypt those messages. You can receive and read those messages. They already require keys and a minimal 0.001 fee.

> Why would anyone need to use this specific “Steem Messenger?” It has all of the same required functions as current wallet transfers...but does not improve the messaging system. It’s pretty much exactly the same, except you would now use another third-party app.

Because it's a pain in the ... to use the Wallet transfers. The memo key isn't saved, because most users log in via their posting key and this results in encrypted messages not being automatically decrypted and encryption not working without a login with your memo-key.

And even if you login with your memo key to read those messages & encrypt - you still have to enter your active key afterwards.

So yes - I used the wallet in the past and it works, but it is simply too complicated, waste of time and insecure entering the keys so often.

Nevertheless, I appreciate your comment!

>...but it is simply too complicated, waste of time and insecure entering the keys so often.

It’s really no more complicated or time consuming than logging into a third-party service and using it to send a message. And the security issue remains to be seen. I actually feel pretty secure not having my keys saved and only needing to use them when they’re necessary.

I use the existing wallet transfer functions all the time with no issues. Is this new service mainly for noobs? People who don’t know the simple features/functions of the current Steem wallet?

> It’s really no more complicated or time consuming than logging into a third-party service and using it to send a message.

What do you mean with third-party-service?

> And the security issue remains to be seen. I actually feel pretty secure not having my keys saved and only needing to use them when they’re necessary.

You got to have them saved somewhere - otherwise how do you use them?

> I use the existing wallet transfer functions all the time with no issues. Is this new service mainly for noobs? People who don’t know the simple features/functions of the current Steem wallet?

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> What do you mean with third-party-service?

Your software is a "third-party service" (But so is Steemit, Busy and any other front-end, since the blockchain cannot be accessed without the use of such implementations).

> You got to have them saved somewhere - otherwise how do you use them?

I think that by this he meant easily accessible and always "active" (like when you use your browser's password manager to automatically input your password regardless of the user, and using cookies to keep the password wif logged in your session).

But with proper safety measures, this messenger would not be a security risk, I believe, and would instead make it much faster and safer to send and read transactions (especially if real-time notifs were enabled in the future).

The security aspects in general for the issue of typing versus storing, it can be secure enough considering the developer did use the appropriate encryption apis, selected the correct ciphers and use a sensitive / aggressive interation count on a key derivation function (KDF).

This proctects against phshing, if correctly implemented.

Also notice I'm not vetting this project, just expressing that is more or less the same about the cryptographycally-soundness, but on the phishing part, a definitive more secure apprach.

I'm on the final rounds of a new wallet development, and I'll publish a doc on how I've secure the keys, using a 6 digit pin code which is resistent to phishing, rainbow tables and other aspects.

The security of the secret-key exchange used by steem is another debate.

I honestly believe on a off-chain approach for the encrypted messages to live. storing numerous and numerous encrypted messages, potentially with the same content possible opens some window to crypto-analysis, but, the end result is not catastrophic, the worse case scenario, a given individual would be able to read encrypted messages.

Glad to extend this conversation further when possible.

Congrats @therealwolf on the project!

Hello @hernandev ! Maybe you'll want to check out the REAL Steem Messenger project, which is actually off chain based : https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@kingswisdom/steem-messenger-v0-0-3-private-beta-session-image-encryption-and-many-more

We work with a unique security protocol that i'll be unveiling this weekend ! Stay tuned for more infos on this !

Upvoted for visibility - it's bullshit when people steal names. I have no doubt the product is cool and well built...but for fucks sake be original people. Besides, I think off-chain solutions are better for this. Why force the chain to work this hard?

Well both these apps are pretty close together and Beta. Not like one has been out for 12 months haha

I think is a great idea

How can I encrypt my Memo? I couldn't figure out it yet.

This seems really interesting. Looking forward to seeing how it develops, will certainly give it a test.

Looking forward to seeing how my comment develops? How will you test it?

Hello @ats-david ! I agree with you, this application is just a better graphical UI to the steem wallet. We still need to give our active key in order to just send messages, which puts our account at risk.
In addition, this is not the real Steem Messenger. Here is the REAL Steem Messenger project : https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@kingswisdom/steem-messenger-v0-0-3-private-beta-session-image-encryption-and-many-more

It is off chain, does not require your active permission, nor to access to your funds, it is scalable at ease, and truly unique by design.

I will unveil the security protocol used in Steem Messenger (the real one) this weekend. Stay tuned for more info on this.

It's so that you can use a dedicated application that isn't cluttered with the rest of the functionality. I like my chat applications dedicated to preserve my sanity.

Great idea! I like your thought behind it. Check my post as well

Ok so let me understand this. You are effectively using the Steemit memo system to create a app for sending messages. Would that mean that any payout i receive would be shown in my messages on messenger?
Those that curate a lot have plenty of memo spam with "you received 0.001 SP" etc.
Does that mean that all messages i send via the messenger would be shown on my memo page effectively having no privacy in my conversation?
Not criticizing, just trying to understand it better. :D

Oh now i noticed. So you will encrypt any message sent, somehow making it unreadable on the steemit site? Right?

Everything you send via transfer and add to the memo field is public on the blockchain. The messenger simply displays it in a nice way.

You can encrypt a memo with the messenger, so only your recipient will see it.

Yeah, ok... That seems like a good addition. No other complaints from me. :D

Oh no wait... Raise the upvote percentage for smartsteem Wolfie.. :D hahaha
See ya round.

People are increasingly using instant messengers as the fastest and easiest way to communicate in an environment where there is nothing superfluous. Now this way you can communicate not only with friends but also with brands, access to the most appropriate services, bypassing search engines and websites. I wish you good luck and the maximum possible activity in your messenger.

This post, with over $50.00 in bidbot payouts, has received votes from the following:

smartsteem payout in the amount of $63 STU, $132 USD.
smartmarket payout in the amount of $2 STU, $4 USD.

For a total calculated bidbot upvote value of $64 STU, $135 USD before curation, with approx. $16 USD curation being earned by the bidbots.

This information is being presented in the interest of transparency on our platform @therealwolf and is by no means a judgement of your work.

Is this interface for chatting, or is this for transacting? Or are they one and the same around here?

Ever since I joined Steemit back in July 2017, I've been wondering why there is no chatbox, messenger or something like that in it and I hope this was the case with all other users. This is so because almost all of us have been used to using Facebook that had this built in feature available for its users. So, not having something like that here and rather going to steemit.chat or discord was a great hassle that I never liked. Congrats @therealwolf for coming up with a great solution. I hope it works fine and thus makes Steemit a better platform.

Steem On!

Thank you @ugetfunded. I felt the same way - so I did something about it :P

This will be such a needed tool for steem shops

Wouldn’t it be better to select the other user’s public memo key for encrypting messages to that user? If that’s the case, I see users having to change their public memo key often ... still not a bad idea !!

@robertgenito
Messages are encrypted (encoded) with your private memo key and the public memo-key of the recipient.

Messages can only be decrypted (decoded) with either your private memo-key or the private memo-key of the recipient.

Hmmmm, not like PGP where you can't decrypt it unless you have the recipient's private key. I'll have to research the difference in these encryption algorithms.

Search for Diffie-Hellman key exchange.

Where do we find the private Memo key? There is no option to reveal it in the Steemit wallet.

You can only derive your memo-key from your password.

Do you know of a steemit page that describes each different password and its significance with the Steem protocol? (I’m sure the white paper has this in great detail...)

Oooh thank you for clearing this up...makes sense.

One big problem I see with this, how does this affect the steem infrastructure?
As I can see it at the moment, steem has already a huge problem with the existing load. Doesn't that put even more load on it? I mean, let's consider mass adoption of this, this could simply double the load of the blockchain, and we already know that distributed ledgers which rely on bft never scale well.

You're right that mass adoption of the messenger could increase the load. But my understanding is that @ned wants to have mass adoption for Steem.

And in that case: changes to improve scalability have to be made anyway.

Of course, they want mass adoption, but since full-nodes are barely taking it at the moment already, this means they're nowhere close to that goal yet. Additionally, every scalability has a limit, and a chat service like that, considering mass adoption, could simply have 10 times the load of the blockchain itself.
Which means, with growing adoption it would have to scale 10 times better with this chat than they'd have to without.

We're using but a small percentage of the whole potential that this has. I read that we're using around 3% of the max load at the moment. The problem we've been having with bandwidth recently is due to people spamming the blockchain, but I think that it's been solved with a node update by most major witnesses.

Besides, the more people that join the blockchain, the higher the requirements will be for witnesses. They will have to adapt and the blockchain's capacity will increase correspondingly to the increase in users and activity.

I'm not talking about the blockchain itself, while that's not a problem now, this will definitely be one in the future, especially with chats like that spamming the blockchain. The problems I'm talking about are the full-nodes which are already at the tipping point of them not being able to catch up anymore (At the moment they're barely coming along with 500GB RAM). While the blockchain is an important part to be scalable, there are a lot of other components involved as well.

Damn, I didn't know that the nodes were in such a saddened state. Will the Witnesses be able to handle them if they put more RAM? Would it be affordable?

The Problem is not about the witness nodes, the problems are the full nodes.
The Steem devs have pointed out in their last post that they're working on something to improve the situation. But I guess a lot of things will need a rewrite until this system starts scaling better.

Hello @raycoms, maybe you should have a look to the REAL Steem Messenger : https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@kingswisdom/steem-messenger-v0-0-3-private-beta-session-image-encryption-and-many-more

Everything in Steem Messenger happens out of the blockchain, in a permissionned database. More on our security protocol this weekend.

Thanx for research! :-)

Okay, I am a dinasaur. This looks complicated.

Good application. As @ats-david noted, users will be concerned about the security aspect. I believe integrating the steemconnect into the application will go along way in solving this @therealwolf.

Not sure what kind of security aspect there is.

The messenger is a local & open-source application. That's already pretty secure!

I believe the active key aspect. But since it is local and open source. It is secure to use then and will be of immense use for steemit users.

Awesome APP!

Already gotta proposal for an update:

Public chatrooms

Chatroom could be created in form of a post on the blockchain. Each chat message represents a comment to the post.
Just attach some custom JSON information on each post and comment, in order to know what content belongs to your app.

+1 Good idea!

One problem with that implementation is that the person who started the chatroom/"post" would receive all the steem instead of it being shared. I think the previous on-chain chat for @dlive worked this way, which made sense for it to go to one person, but most group chats wouldn't work that way.

I wonder what @therealwolf thinks about this.

The reward on the chatroom post shouldn't be an issue, since the application could simply prevent it from beeing upvoted in the GUI.

I REALLY like the approach of the Mangosteem project.
Link: https://steemit.com/steem/@gokulnk/mangosteem-steem-powered-web-chat

In this app you could only upvote content in the chat itsself instead of the channel. I wonder why the project isn't online anymore - it had SO much potential, if you ask me!

If @therealwolf won't catch up and devolop for this usecase - I will anytime soon :)

I hadn't heard of Mangosteem. Looks like the project is still alive but it has errors. The main JS file is still available:

http://alpha.mangosteem.chat/js/mangosteem.js?v1.9.1

I will look more into their approach. Thanks!

wow awesome post or comment really tnx bro @roomservice

Please Stop - @mdfardushkhan100

You just said "awesome post" and in your your last 100 comments you used 43 phrases considered to be spam and you made this exact same comment 1 times. You've received 0 flags and you may see more on comments like these. These comments are the reason why your Steem Sincerity API classification scores are Spam: 55.20% and Bot: 4.60%

Please stop making comments like this and read the ways to avoid @pleasestop and earn the support of the community.

Would love to see this switch to a dynamic layout then compiled as an app for Android.

I think it would become a really popular app.

Great news and an important step for this platform.

Things are getting better and better here.

Thank you @therealwolf

upvoted&resteemed

Hi there,

Although it's a good development effort I think the pay-to-message system is not a very likeable "messenger".

This project could be huge if you have implemented the "broadcast" system. So, even though the sender pays for each and every messages, the use of your messenger would make it easier for the user to do one-click-to-broadcast messages. Thus people can use it for promotional purposes.

Congrats though for this development.

Thank you.

> one-click-to-broadcast messages

What do you mean by that exactly?

E.g. I'm using the Messenger. I would then :
1. create a group called "People who didn't use my bot".
2. Add Steemit users inside the list. Let say user A, B, C, etc.
3. I create a message "Hey, a new bid bot is in town. Check it out @myAwesomeBot"
4. I then select the fee to send for each message, let say 0.001 sbd.
5. Click send to the group.

The Messenger then put all users in the group into queue, and send the message one by one automatically without me typing it again.

The group will still be there, and tomorrow I can use it again to send another messages to that group automatically after typing once, instead of sending it one by one. This is very helpful for people to promote to hundreds of Steemit users in one go.

LOL, these bots are so annoying already. Imagine if a new tool appeared that allowed every user to spam everyone. Ah, horrible.

No - I won't make it easier for spammers to spam transfers.

No. It's not for spammer. The example would be the mailing list system of aweber / getresponse. Business owners use them as mass promotional tool, and no spam included.

Yeah, but you are forgetting one most important thing, with Aweber/Getresponse or any other email marketing service available out there (free or paid), first you need to provide your e-mail address to allow the service to send you those emails afterward, not to mention that in most cases so-called double opt-in is also required before any further e-mail promotion would start.

Here, everyone has the access to our account names (what is some sort of our 'e-mail address' here), and what already allows them to contact us even maybe we didn't ask for that. With this additional option that you are requesting, I can't agree more with @therealwolf that it would only make the whole spamming parade way easier for spammers!

Congrats for your idea, it is awesome. Cheers

Wow, that's an amazing tool! It is one of the missing features users always complain about. And it is the first time I see someone implementing the memo key for encrypted messages. That is so awesome. I will test this baby right away. Well done!

Looks really cool. So great learning about all the APPS that are able to run on Steem.

The defaulting of the blacklist is huge. Wish we could use the blacklist on the normal wallet hah!

I already use it @therealwolf

It could become life changing for the platform

Cool idea 😎 @therealwolf
+ One of the first shortcomings I noticed about Steemit, was discussions and chat had to be taken to an external site. I really disliked being told to go to Steem.chat or discord.
+ Perhaps the Steemit devs or devs of other front ends could add your code so it would be built into the UI of choice. ??? That would be even cooler.
+ I'll +1 @roomservice's idea of using this as the basis of public chatrooms. IMHO, that's a doable and needed idea.

I'm looking at https://github.com/therealwolf42/steemmessenger/releases
+ For my windoze box, do I download and run Steem.Messenger.Setup.0.1.0.exe ?

When I get home and want to install this on my Manjaro (Arch based) Linux box, I'm not sure what to do...

As far as the passwords, are they only stored (encrypted) on my local box? or am I giving you access to them through the program? I think I already know the answer, but I'm seeing a few comments where a bit of clarification would calm their nerves...

One more question. Is this program smart enough to know who I follow? I'm thinking maybe ajax could be used as I start typing someone's name, first checking to see if I follow them and then if not, choosing from the entire user name list of everyone on steemit? That list on the left in the above graphic of having a discussion, is that people I follow? Is that list customizable through your program?
+ I'm just thinking, if I'm trying to hold a private conversation, I wouldn't want to accidentally send it to the wrong person because of a misspelling of the user name...

The list on the left side are the conversations you have already in the past.

Currently, you have to check for yourself if the username is correct.

OK Thanks

Thank you!

Yes for windows you download the exe.

> When I get home and want to install this on my Manjaro (Arch based) Linux box, I'm not sure what to do...

I personally don't run linux except for servers - and I've only tested it only ubuntu. Does one of the versions avaialble work on your linux machine?

> As far as the passwords, are they only stored (encrypted) on my local box? or am I giving you access to them through the program? I think I already know the answer, but I'm seeing a few comments where a bit of clarification would calm their nerves...

Everything is stored locally - encrypted. Steem Messenger is not a service but a tool :)

Thanks for clarifying.
+ I'll let you know if I'm able to get it going on my Linux box...

This is actually necessary, nice proposal. I think is good that they are proposing more direct ways to communicate on the platform. Thanks for sharing!

The truth is a very necessary tool is the messenger. A few days ago some followers wrote to me to make some proposals and it was not easy to change personal information. I'll try the application and I'll tell you how and what can be improved. regards

Very beautiful @therealwolf. This platform began to evolve. And I liked it provides encrypted messages. Can I translate this topic into Arabic? There are users of this platform of the Arabs will be happy with this program

Ignoring all the negative reviews about this, I completely support this work. I think it will be a good messenger. Once I ended up transferring to steemmarket instead of smartmarket and ended up in a loss. That day I was thinking a feature like this will be useful. Today you have made it possible.

And I don't think you will have to follow anyone to make a transfer to them. So as you mentioned it is pain in the .... Well a good feature. And this can also at a later point in time become a good messenger app becoming a competitor for other normal chatting messengers. Who knows. Necessity induces inventions. Great work @therealwolf.

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Great idea! That would be a great app.

Great development. We are looking forward for more from you and your team. Congratulations

Wow I'm super impressed you came up with the time and effort to do this. You are very noble for going out of your way to help out the Steemit community. It's interesting that the messages are sent over the blockchain. Is there any way around sending .001 of SBD? I guess if you're sending messages back and forth you'll break even. What if you send multiple messages and start losing money. I know it's not very much and one thousand Steem messages = 1 Steem, but the idea of sending a message costing something might not sit well with people, because they can generally do it for free. Nevertheless, this is a great step in the advancement of Steemit! :)

Check out the REAL Steem Messenger : https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@kingswisdom/steem-messenger-v0-0-3-private-beta-session-image-encryption-and-many-more

No fee. No bandwidth limitation. No hassle. Pure security.

I'll be unveiling the security protocol this weekend, stay tuned for this announcement !

Quit the spamming.

Hello @leoplaw !

I don't seem to be spamming anything. @jfitmisc asked is there's any workaround for the 0.001 SBD fee, and i answered him. If you think this is spamming, please let me know why, I'll sure review my position on the matter

Because you have repeatedly posted a link to your competing messenger. Once is rude, multiple times is spam. Rather than encouraging people to try your messenger, you're turning them off.

Boom. This changes everything @therealwolf. :-D Your contributions to the STEEM Blockchain are truly remarkable. Using STEEM's wallet is a bit of a hassle as well all know. This makes it very simple, accurate and fast. I did not know if we could encrypt our messages as well. This feature is very useful for me. And if people are thinking that this to replace Steem.chat and Discord then I hope it will. :-)

The features listed here are not available on any other platform or messenger. I always send messages to users through wallet transfer in the memo when I can't find them on other apps. And at the same time I would want anyone to see those messages other than the receiver.

If someone thinks that these features are not useful to them, then this app is opensource, please suggest some additional features via @utopian-io to enhance this app and I am sure @therealwolf will be happy to implement the great ones. You will get rewarded too. :-D Cheers!

Thank you @hungryhustle!

Wow! You are doing some really important work as a witness. I'm already buying/selling votes with @smartsteem and now you make this app. Finally decided to give you my tiny witness vote.

Keep them coming @therealwolf

although I have read some of the hate replies and that why was this needed when there is steem.chat and discord I like it.

End of the day people will be the one to decide if they will use it or not.

SteemMessenger isn't supposed to be an alternative to steem.chat or discord, but merely another step in getting in contact with steem users.

Because: the best way to reach a specific account is via a transfer. And afterwards, a discussion can always go to steem.chat, discord or another plattform.

WOW amazing project. I want use it.

once again you have produced a great application for the steemit community. Thank you very much! this will be a useful tool to communicate with folks who aren't on discord or telegram.

You are genius

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Inspite of all the negative comments which I think you are not surprised about, I like this development. I hope it brings solution to me having to use third party apps like steemit.chat and discord. However, why do I have to engage in transfers before I can chat?

>I hope it brings solution to me having to use third party apps like steemit.chat and discord.

Using this “app” is really no different. You’ll need to download it and sign into it before you can “chat.”

>However, why do I have to engage in transfers before I can chat?

Because that’s how wallet transfers work. Every message you send must be a transfer of STEEM or SBD and 0.001 is the minimum transfer. So if you’re expecting to chat a lot, you’ll need to save up.

Or, if you sign into existing third-party, free chat services anyway, you can continue doing that.

> Every message you send must be a transfer of STEEM or SBD and 0.001 is the minimum transfer.

Thanx! This clarifies my concern about flooding the network as shown in my comment in this post. I'll have to stick with Telegram for the time being.

This is one of those posts that our platform was build for. Amazing application that, hopefully, gets acknowledged by the community and sees a lot of use. Even if not, I can use it to message people and they'll surely see it because its in their transactions and not in some Rocket Chat or Discord that they might not even visit. Awesome. Thank you for coming to us with this and I hope this is not the end of the road for Steem Messenger.

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Overlooking all the negative audits about this, I totally bolster this work. I figure it will be a decent delegate. When I wound up exchanging to steemmarket rather than smartmarket and wound up in a misfortune. That day I was thinking a component like this will be helpful. Today you have made it conceivable.

Furthermore, I don't figure you should tail anybody to make an exchange to them. So as you specified it is torment in the .... Well a decent element. Furthermore, this can likewise at a later point in time turn into a decent courier application turning into a contender for other ordinary visiting delegates. Who knows. Need incites innovations. Incredible work @therealwolf.

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it is really very neddu information for all steemians..thanks to share

This is the kind of thing I wanted Steem to have from the beginning. Now all I need is friends! ;)

excellent project @therealwolf

Nice idea, I'm actually thinking about this lately since I can't contact anyone here other than using discord, though I wonder how can we be so sure that you wouldn't hack or use our data like what mark zuck did?

Oh mY Almighty.. I would love to use this app right now. I will use it from now..

Cool idea!

Steem Messenger is already an existing app : https://busy.org/@kingswisdom/steem-messenger-v0-0-3-private-beta-session-image-encryption-and-many-more

This looks really cool pal. Will 100% try this out.

I like your post

Good good. I think it's actually going to make things alot easier. Copying and posting keys is kind of cumbersome.this is going to aid easy interactive process.so its a welcome development. But can there be a little enhancement on the logo .it looks so much like the watsap messanger. Thanks @therealwolf

I remember the very first Steemit Chat by @blueorgy even before steemit.chat!

https://steemitimages.com/0x0/https://www.steemimg.com/images/2016/07/18/steemitchat.png

It looks great and the personal blacklist is golden - right what we need. I would like to see blacklist, that is shareable with others. I will try to look at the source code. What IDE do you use?

It seems a great idea and it will benefit a lot of people and i will also be using it in near future @therealwolf

It was not a simple project to develop and you worked hard to make it possible. But you must have to target new user of steemit to use this application because old steemit members will not appreciate your hard work and waste your time by asking meaning less questions. Everything is well explained in the post. I really appreciate your work. If anyone don't like this post and messenger i advice you to please just ignore this post but please do not discourage people. Thanks

Finally! Thanks!!

One of the most important and missing pieces on steemit

Messenger on top of the blockchain is the real game changer here. I found it absurb at first glance but after reading your response in the comment, I finally the get the real value here. Well, job well done @therealwolf congrats for making this. More option = More chances of winning🤩

Cool! But do you plan on making a web client?

It look very promising, I think I will test it!

I think this can improve the engagement across users, thank you for making Steemit better!

I think this is such a great idea. The wallet UI is not designed for communication. It's not pleasant to view with respect to messages and it's not organized so as to highlight messages. It also does not enable conversations. This is great work, I can't wait to use it!

Thank you @andrarchy for taking your time to comment on this post!

The points you highlighted are exactly the reason why I created the messenger in the first place.

Please let me know, when you find the time, how the messaging went :)

I'm really sorry to say that I'm gonna need the ease of use of web client :'(. It's a time management thing :/. But if you're interested in hearing my thoughts on how I would build such a service, you can check out my post on the subject here: https://steemit.com/steem/@andrarchy/using-steem-to-end-e-mail-spam-forever

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That's awesome! Glad to see you on the platform!

Hey thanks for the response have a great spring and summer!

cool to get some "official support" thanks for checking out this project @andrarchy
(part of the smartsteem team)
I am installing it myself and will test it by sending you a msg :-)

nice idea

I agree with you @andrarchy that the steem wallet is not thought to message in real time with people, and that the creation of the steem messanger has much a better user interface and its created for the purpose of communicating!

By the way, I wanted to let you know about something a bit out of context but for the growth of the Steem Blockchain, and more regarding its promotional activities (that @therealwolf already knows about this).

Yesterday I made a comment to @ned 's post about his tour in Korea (comment also copied below), regarding the **@steem-ambassador and #promo-steem project that currently has thousands of promoters spreading the word about Steemit and the Steem Blockchain, and a trustful team of over 30 steem ambassadors curating quality content on the #promo-steem tag. Here is the link to the comment: (https://steemit.com/kr/@ned/at-the-gopax-steemit-meetup#@gold84/re-ned-at-the-gopax-steemit-meetup-20180503t123911324z)

>Hi @ned ! Good to see you are in another tour promoting Steemit and the Steem Blockchain.

>I am not sure if you had the chance to check any of my past posts, or the 10 chapters full steemit guide I finished a few months ago to help new users, minnows, and new visitors learn as fast and as much as possible about steem and steemit.

>I made a shout out for you a few days ago regarding the #promo-steem project and the huge work that hundreds of promoters/voluntarysts are doing for Steemit and Steem around the world. I know you did not request them to do so for Steemit, but they are doing it with passion and helping to oboard thousands of people every month.

>Here is the Big Shout to @ned @andrarchy and @steemit Inc - The @Steem-Ambassador Guild and #Promo-Steem Project - SP Delegations Needed to Reward the Hundreds Voluntarysts Promoting Steem and Steemit

>Looking forward to your feedback if you get the chance and time.

>Regards, @gold84

This comment I made to @ned yesterday got 29 upvotes and 12 comments as of know. Seems of importance for the community.

I wanted to see if you ever had the chance to review about this project, and if there is a possibility from Steemit Budgets to delegate some SP to the @steem-ambassador guild. This will hugely help on a more fair reward for this thousands of promoters around the world.

Looking forward to your feedback!

Regards, @gold84

Excellent design, will really try this app

Bigups @therealwolf!!! I'm very impressed with this. In fact it was just the other day when I was thinking "Steemit should actually have a messenger service." Here it is! You're a gamechanger BOSS!!

Is it ideal to put our chat on blockchain?
Where we cannot remove anything after few days.

Three things would make this a killer app for me:

1) Setting for minimum value for message to be shown at all
2) Setting for minimum value to give alert
3) Protocol to make my settings publicly known (so app users know how much to get me to see the message, and how much to trigger a mobile alert).

1.) No problem.
2.) Alert? Do you mean Notifications like this?

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Or do you actually mean a mobile alert? And how? SMS?

3.) No problem. But also similar question as above regarding mobile alert.

Oh, I didn't realize this was a desktop app, I figured it was a web app, I didn't read the full post. If it were a web app you could request permission from the browser to create alerts. You could also have a wrapper app on Android that could do alerts. However as a desktop app I'm not sure it could serve this purpose.

The App is written with electron-js (chromium). So alerts are available. But I think what you mean are desktop notifications.

I can implemented something like this: https://github.com/mikaelbr/node-notifier

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mikaelbr/node-notifier/master/example/input-example.gif

(Of course without the input - but you get what I mean)

I meant browser/mobile alerts, the kinds you get with Telegram. Desktop alerts work too.

Not sure if folks want to pay 1 Steem for every 1000 messages sent

There's also SBD. It wouldn't be a chat messenger, it would be an attention request service.

So basically I have to pay 1 SBD to spam 1000 people, I'm sure that very useful to the mass Steemians who don't run services

No, you'd have to pay based on the settings that the users set. For example I probably wouldn't see any message for less than 5 SBD.

no kidding, i should start responding to > 1 SBD messages then ... lol

so where do we set this minimal "setting"

My comment at the start of this thread was a suggestion. It's not how it currently works.

i actually thought the memo key was somehow a way to send memo without SBD or Steem

now i'm not sure if it's that useful

It is. Sending memos in transfers is optional. You can use the memo key with email in a similar fashion to PGP.

>It is.... You can use the memo key with email in a similar fashion to PGP.

can you elaborate on this? I saw a MPRPG on Steemit using the memo key to login but they did not have messaging yet

I'm working on a FCM version for my wallet app, that may useful for your app too.

verygood and interesting thd amazing future 😍😍😍

well this is very interesting... I'm happy with this news

Will we see a web app of this tool? I'm not really into third-party packages in my OC.

Excellent but functional novelties, I will be testing it soon, thanks for the contribution.

This looks like a very promising application for the STEEM blockchain. This gives me plenty of excitement for the future of the ecosystem. Thanks for the share and I appreciate your efforts! Resteem

i love the steemit improve day to day congrats for for the development.
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Is the first link, the link for the messenger? Hope the messenger is like the other applications/tools here, you can earn while using it.

I know you had questioned how this worked on Linux. I wrote a quick howto on getting it build and running.

https://steemit.com/utopian-io/@thecrazygm/steem-messenger-linux-installation-and-howto

good work!! resteemed

Would not excessive mailing bring a much greater need for processing to the network?

Does this feature pose no risk to the steemit network?

This is amazing... great job @therealwolf...watching to see how it develops... Kudos!

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This is a great application, I am testing it now. However, I am not seeing incoming messages, even though I can see your incoming transfers in the wallet, no messages are loading in the interface. How do I fix this issue?

Messages are loaded every 10 minutes (you can customize it). Does it work when you manually reload messages?

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What are the benefits in comparison to currently available messenger apps? Is it only to facilitate communication among steemit users?

So glad to see this! I am excited for Steem

Yes! This is awesome! Steemit is growing!

Indeed

WOW, great project! upvoted! Thanks for the hard work.

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This is so cool.

Steem Messenger is a cool project to bring chat plus encryption on the Steem blockchain. It cleverly uses the memo key and the memo encryption function in the JavaScript library to achieve this goal. I took the time to review the cryptography and security of the design. I haven't seen anything bad or shocking but I notice some nice to have features since we are in a decentralized setting.

This is what the steemit community deserve.
Easiest way to communicate with other steemian. Hope all the bugs if arise will be solved and we will get a full featured bug less chat matt. Happy messaging :-)

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I meant browser/mobile alerts, the kinds you get with Telegram. Desktop alerts work too.

Setting for minimum value for message to be shown at all
Thank you...

Awesome !!

Oh yeah!

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Neat idea! Private messaging is a huge component of any social media site, glad to see someone finally develop it for Steemit!

This is so neat. Thank you so much. A private way to communicate with others was definitely missing from the platform.

By the way, I love your winky face. Looks like Dorian Parvus from Dragon Age. That is a very good thing ;)

This is first-rate. That is exactly what steemit desires. A messenger program will make it so much easier to speak on steemit. I might be downloading it for my laptop. With any luck you may be capable of make it android like minded within the destiny. That would be a exceptional app.

Oh very very COOL !

Missing such from the beginning :D THX a bunch !

Everything is very new to me. Find it really exciting what you can do everything. A new era has dawned on the visionaries who are exchanging ideas and sharing everything. This is how the best products are created and everyone benefits from them.

this is so cool

thanks for your information

Can i join sir!!

This looks amazing, @therealwolf! Great job. This is exactly the type of innovation we need here on Steem, and I can't wait to try out the app for myself when I get home today.

Best regards from @valth

Yes,thats what im looking for...i saw the news on youtube...and finally its releasing.its a great achievement for steemit,it will be more useful over third party messanger...

Really nice one Tool, at the moment i test it and for a beta looks very good, thx for your Work!

How do I try it out?! 😁

Great idea! Is there (or will there be) a feature for a 'GROUP CHAT'?

ound it absurb at first glance but after reading your response in the comment, I finally the get the real value here. Well, job well done @therealwolf congrats for making this. More option = More chances llllll

I think this is such a good idea for all steemers.

great idea, very happy o give it a try :)

This is great idea, definitely that would help to all Steemians to make better conversation!

im always hoping that steemit has messenger too like on Facebook. Thanks for this. But can I install it on google apps?

Interesting project, i guess its useful for users who frequently send messages on chain but for new users maybe not so much.

This got me thinking, sending SBD and STEEM on the blockchain has no fees, but sending messages does :(

@therealwolf i guess we are taking over facebook...

Loving this. And the fact that all messages can be secured using the users private key makes it more secure than many other messeging apps (such as facebook)!

OMG! I can't wait to use this app...

cool function, it will be great progress, thanks for contribution for steemit

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This is a big leap into the future, steem messanger beta is that leap. Communication between steamians made easy. Thanks @therealwolf for this awesome initiative

I dont get it, how to use it ?

Amaaaaazing!

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Nice idea and business plan.
Good luck with the project :)

@therealwolf as a developer and witness you are doing amazing works for steemians your bot and your apps are good and user friendly

Woow. its cool idea
I hope this project be success in the future

Great Work
@the realwolf

What an awesome project, I voted you as witness (first time I do something like that though).
Messenger is something it seems we have been lacking on this platform, great work!

we have to pay for every messages we send?

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Great Stuff! Keep it up.

Yes messages could be send before already.... sometimes you just need to point out the obvious by creating an app for it.
Steemit has many options and it can get confusing, especially for beginners.

It is all about usability now, to reach mass adoption.
Steemit is really the best blockchain project out there..
This messanger is a great contribution.
Please make the cellphone app next. Then things will take off. Lets see if the Steem blockchain can handle the traffic......

Wao it have a tremendious features to engage with the steemit community.

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@therealwolf I agree with many users like @ats-david about this project... it is exactly the same of using the wallet memo transfer and i don't think new external users will come here to pay for using this app (if your idea is to create the "WhatsApp" based on steem blockchain you are so far). But at the same time i have to say not always the innovations are "innovations", sometime they only simplify our common use. We often have to impersonate ourselves in other less experienced people than us... So at the same time this application can be useless and useful. But the question is: how many times have you used MEMO Transaction?
Was it so uncomfortable to use?

Hi @therealwolf, this is such an amazing project. I couldn't try it yet, but I will definitely do soon.

By the way, I'm running @steemhunt, a product ranking leaderboard by Steemians. I featured your product here. Let me know please if I mis-understood about your product. Thanks again for the great product!

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Great idea and development so far @therealwolf !

This is a much easier way for people on Steem to communicate each other, much better interface than what the steem wallet offers for communication (due to the it was not designed for realtime messaging) .

Regards, @gold84

It is very interesting to have a communication tool in which we can interact among users, so you can get help to get more votes on the articles that I publish, because it seems that they are not of interest to the community

I'm so amazed about this community. Also I want make some DApps based on SteemIt. Actually there are a Tutorial and Steemit SDK to do that?

amazing work! just make sure messages are ALWAYS encrypted or then chat becomes public.. forever..

this is a great project, but is there any other way to actually build a messenger on top of steemit without using the wallet?

I mean to be honest, leaving the user in control of how much SBD they can send is a very tricky situation. I suggest to make it by default the least amount of SBD you can possibly send.

Anywho @therealwolf, bro what you did here is super creative and well thought. and I can not wait to start using it.

Cheers!

I would like it!

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It is a good idea

Steem Messengert I'm very excited and proud too.

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Name and history of my hometown of Sylhet division...

Ancient texts contain different names in this region (Sylhet division).

According to Hinduism, the hands of his wife Sati Devi (hand) were born in this region, so that the Hindu community believes that the name of Srihatta from 'Sri Hand' is the origin of the Hindu community.

In the history of the fourth century BC, the name of this region is referred to as "serioat". In addition, in the second century AD, "Seirte" in Alien (Ailien), and Periplas of the Erethrion Sea, the region was written in two ways by the name "Sirat" and "Sisette".

Chinese people - then in 640 when Chinese traveler Hiuen Tsang traveled to this region. In his travelogue he mentioned the name of the region "Shilichal" [8].

In the history of Muslim society, by the commander of the Turkish commander, Ikhtiyar Uddin Muhammad Bakhtiyar Khalji, the name of "Sylhet", "Sylhet", instead of the name of "Shreehatta" in their documents, was found in the history of Muslim society. Historians believe that once the name of Sylhet has become famous since it is being converted from Srihatta. [9] [10]

When "Hazrat Shah Jalal (R)" came in "Sylhet", the enemy side and his followers 360 avuliyadera were stuck with "rock" or "stone". Then, in the endless grace of Allah Almighty, he said, "Shilahat" (meaning - the stone shifts away). Then, the stones are removed from here. This name was named "Shilahat". Then the name is easy to make "Shilhat", "Sylhet", "Sylhet (present)". * [11]

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It is also said that, at one time in Sylhet district a rich man had a daughter. His name was Shila. The person constructed a hat for the protection of his daughter and named it Rocker Hat. The name of this rock hut is distorted in different ways by name Sylhet. [13]

Assam, India, before the Sylhet division, Meghalaya state (Khasia and Jaintia hills) on the north, Tripura state on the south, Dhaka division of Bangladesh in the west. According to the regional history of Sylhet, according to the ancient boundary of this region, the Shreehattamandal of that time was much larger than the existing Sylhet division, even today the present Sarail or Satrakhand (belonging to Brahmanbaria district) of Bangladesh, Joan Shahi (in greater Mymensingh district), Tripura State of India, On Karimganj, Cachar district and Badarpur, on the other hand, Was added to the list. [5] [6] According to the ancient Vedic texts of ancient Kamrup Kamakhya system was the state's south-western limit of the ancient Sylhet Sylhet was Kamarupa state. The description of the range of Sree Hatta in Yogini Tantra is as follows:

Previously golden river Chandrabhokhera southwest
North west side of red west
Mahadev Shrihatta named Nomas [7]
Later, in the later part of the seventh century AD, the geographic form of the region has changed. In the middle of the eighth century, some parts of the south-eastern part of the Sylhet division were included in the state of Tripura and many parts of the southwest were included in the state of the hurricane. The remnants of the ancient kingdom of Jayanthiya, Laura and Gaur were spread across Srihatta [5] [7].

It is off chain, does not require your active permission, nor to access to your funds, it is scalable at ease, and truly unique by design.

I will unveil the security protocol used in Steem Messenger (the real one) this weekend. Stay tuned for more info on this.

Great review and nice post, thanks for shearing sir..................

@therealwolf,
This is awesome. Just a couple weeks ago I was wanting to message a friend on here and I had to search for one his posts, comment, and wait for a reply. This is great news!
Thanks for your vision!
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Awesome 😊👍

anyone solve to me that Resteem post post which the profite or which oportunity?

I like how this looks cant wait to use this stuff... keep up the good work yall appreciate this...

That looks very interesting. Instead of the blacklist you should offer a minimum price for sending messages. Annoying users with an urge to communicate would simply pay the recipients for getting their messages/insults. I'd find that fair :-)

Regarding the update interval: Is it only possible to send a message every 60 seconds? I thought the duration is 20 seconds for posting content, or does that only apply for comments?

If the time limit was zero and you combine the chat function with DLive, you'd get yourself a nice live cam business. Not the kind of thing I would engage in, but surely a very profitable business. After all, users could pay their cam girl by simply sending a message while the girls (or also guys?) could charge a minimum price for their attention.

I would upvote you now, but my one Cent won't make much of a difference to the 775+$ you already got for the post :-)

Sorry I didn't read the entire post. Is this running on top of the Steem blockchain? If so, how about the possibility of spammers clogging the Steem network by flooding with private messages?

Aloha,
Thank you for taking the time to create this application. This work and that of others like you is what makes this platform special. Reading the comments was also very educational. I will vote for you as witness and follow you.

great contribution it will make steemit more convient with real life.

As I can see it at the moment, steem has already a huge problem with the existing load. Doesn't that put even more load on it? I mean, let's consider mass adoption of this, this could simply double the load of the blockchain, and we already know that distributed ledgers which rely on bft never scale well.

Always great to see people building on top of the Steem ecosystem.

La verdad que me parece una excelente idea. :)

very very bad app :(

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Can't wait to use it

:)

If it's a web page, can you download and run that exe? I don't know if the Settings page is in Chinese. English is not very good.

This is a good news for steemit user. i hope every body get help from steemmessenger.

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Why should someone use this? Pay for every message because its sent as a tx memo? Totally useless imho

Well this got you my vote buddy. I just started running for witness and my initiative to start off was the witness communications assembly which is about improving witness to end user relations, communication and transparent. This is it - https://discord.gg/TQuaNjE
There's a channel there for you already

I knew it was only a matter of time before someone implemented something like this. I know others are working on steemit chat, but this is just plain cool.

Excellent job... this was a must for this blockchain :)

wow!

Very good idea @therealwolf. Upvote and reesteem.

This is exactly what steemit needs. A messenger program will make it so much easier to communicate on steemit. I will be downloading it for my computer. Hopefully you will be able to make it Android compatible in the future. That would be a great app.

Great initiative. Definitely a feature that had been missing in the steem ecosystem. Can't wait to try it!

Great Work !
Hope for looking more updates in future ..
Great work

Thank you for Steem messenger beta Sir

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wow this is great man. Thank you for coming up with this I can already fee it being used just like the Facebook app really excited to use it and its development. :)

wow, this is awesome

This was a job well done. Excellent work. Will soon test it, I've been expecting for this kind of messenger for steemit all this while and it's, thanks so much

@therealwolf you have come again in putting smiles to one's face. You always find a way all steemians could make access to steemit in an easier way. This is another better feature @therealwolf just released for the steemit messenger. @therealwolf you never start to stop to motivate me for once, I give kudos to your effort. Keep it up, steemit messenger, here I come.

hola amigo @therealwolf Mientras aplaudo el esfuerzo de desarrollo, me pregunto por qué esto es realmente necesario.

Actualmente puede enviar mensajes a cualquier persona. Puedes encriptar esos mensajes. Puede recibir y leer esos mensajes. Ya requieren claves y una tarifa mínima de 0.001.

¿Por qué alguien necesitaría usar este "Steem Messenger" específico? Tiene todas las mismas funciones requeridas que las transferencias de monedero actuales ... pero no mejora el sistema de mensajería. Es prácticamente lo mismo, excepto que ahora usaría otra aplicación de terceros.

¿Me estoy perdiendo de algo?

Thank for you sir,,

Hallo Freund @therealwolf Während ich die Entwicklungsbemühungen applaudiere, frage ich mich, warum das wirklich notwendig ist.

Sie können derzeit Nachrichten an beliebige Personen senden. Sie können diese Nachrichten verschlüsseln. Sie können diese Nachrichten empfangen und lesen. Sie benötigen bereits Schlüssel und eine Mindestquote von 0,001.

Warum sollte jemand diesen speziellen "Steem Messenger" verwenden müssen? Es hat alle die gleichen Funktionen, die erforderlich sind, wie die aktuelle Brieftasche überträgt ... aber es verbessert das Nachrichtensystem nicht. Es ist ziemlich das Gleiche, außer dass ich jetzt eine andere Anwendung von Drittanbietern verwenden würde.

Fehle ich etwas?

El objetivo nunca fue reemplazar steem.chat. Más bien para dar una manera fácil de iniciar el contacto y enviar mensajes a través de la cadena de bloques y si es necesario después, siempre es posible cambiar a otras plataformas (steem.chat, discordia).

El objetivo nunca fue reemplazar steem.chat. Más bien para dar una manera fácil de iniciar el contacto y enviar mensajes a través de la cadena de bloques y si es necesario después, siempre es posible cambiar a otras plataformas (steem.chat, discordia).

Thank for you,,

While I applaud the development effort, I’m wondering why this is actually necessary. You can currently send messages to anyone. You can encrypt those messages. You can receive and read those messages. They already require keys and a minimal 0.001 fee. Why would anyone need to use this specific “Steem Messenger?” It has all of the same required functions as current wallet transfers...but does not improve the messaging system. It’s pretty much exactly the same, except you would now use another third-party app. Am I missing something here?

El objetivo nunca fue reemplazar steem.chat. Más bien para dar una manera fácil de iniciar el contacto y enviar mensajes a través de la cadena de bloques y si es necesario después, siempre es posible cambiar a otras plataformas (steem.chat, discordia) @therealwolf

although I have read some of the hate replies and that why was this needed when there is steem.chat and discord I like it.

End of the day people will be the one to decide if they will use it or not.

wow,,so exited about thus app!!

Enquanto aplaudo o esforço de desenvolvimento, estou me perguntando por que isso é realmente necessário.

Atualmente, você pode enviar mensagens para qualquer pessoa. Você pode criptografar essas mensagens. Você pode receber e ler essas mensagens. Eles já exigem chaves e uma taxa mínima de 0,001.

Por que alguém precisaria usar esse “Steem Messenger” específico? Ele tem todas as mesmas funções necessárias que as atuais transferências de carteira ... mas não melhora o sistema de mensagens. É praticamente o mesmo, exceto que você agora usaria outro aplicativo de terceiros.

Estou faltando alguma coisa aqui?

The goal was never to replace steem.chat. Rather to give an easy way to initiate contact and send messages through the chain of blocks and if necessary afterwards, it is always possible to switch to other platforms (steem.chat, discord).

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Hmm best efforts to make steemit messengers where other steemians can easily share their knowledge thank someone

Great thing it is