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EOS vs. Ethereum for Dummies!

BY: @trogdor | CREATED: June 23, 2017, 7:13 p.m. | VOTES: 1099 | PAYOUT: $1391.08 | [ VOTE ]

Disclaimer: EOS is currently under development, and some of what we do know about the project is probably subject to change. Furthermore, I am not an Ethereum developer, just someone who uses Google reasonably well. With those facts in mind, consider the following post to be thoughtful speculation, based on my current understanding of both projects.

EOS vs. Ethereum for Dummies!

Introduction
Not long after the launch of Bitcoin, savvy individuals began to recognize that the technology behind Bitcoin has vastly greater potential than simply as the basis for a new electronic currency. In fact, within just a few years of Bitcoin's development, dozens of new decentralized applications have been built upon the same type of public ledger blockchain technology behind Bitcoin. Just a few of these decentralized applications include encrypted messaging (Bitmessage), decentralized exchanges (Bitshares), trustless gambling/betting (Peerplays), cloud computing (Golem), and of course social media (Steem/Steemit). One challenge for innovators and app developers in this new blockchain economy is the difficulty of actually building a new blockchain application from scratch. On top of that, with traditional Proof-of-Work (POW) and Proof-of-Stake consensus mechanisms, the security of the network and application depends on a large amount of hashing power and/or a large distribution of network tokens. For small business owners and startups, these challenges make the barrier to entry impractically high. There is no way a small startup company can independently fund a widely distributed, powerful computer network to secure their application.

Of course, other consensus mechanisms such as Delegated Proof-of-Stake (DPOS) can be operated by a relatively small number of processors without the same network security concerns, although other concerns would still be present for those developers, including achieving a large distribution of network tokens, and of course developing all of the cryptography and blockchain technology to interact with their application. For a comparison, imagine if every computer game designer had to both build a computer from scratch specifically to run a given game, and at the same time they had to develop a game specific operating system to communicate instructions between the game and the computer. It is likely that with such a design model, the vast majority of games and applications would never be built.

In order to solve this problem, the idea of smart contract platforms was developed and implemented, by far the most successfully, by the Ethereum network. Ethereum can be thought of as a decentralized platforms for developing and running decentralized applications (DAPPs), with the benefit that users can be sure that those DAPPs will run exactly as programmed without interference from third-parties. Currently, the Ethereum network has a market cap of around $30 billion (USD), testifying to the demand for smart contract platforms.

Recently, Dan Larimer (inventor of Bitshares, Graphene, and Steem/Steemit), along with the eos.io team, announced the development of EOS, a consensus blockchain operating system that provides databases, account permissions, scheduling, authentication, and internet-application communication to app developers. Thus, EOS will provide developers the tools they need so that they can focus on the specific business logic for their application, without worrying about the cryptography implementations or communication with the decentralized computer (i.e. blockchain). Furthermore, EOS will use parallelization to make possible blockchain scalability to potentially millions of transactions per second.

In this post I will describe some of the differences in technological capabilities and limitations, as well as differences in design philosophies between the EOS and Ethereum platforms.

What's contained in this post?

Chapter 1: What is a smart contract?

Chapter 2: Design philosophy

Chapter 3: Consensus mechanism and governance

Chapter 4: Scalability

Chapter 5: Denial-of-service attacks

Chapter 6: Economics of the networks: burning fees vs. owning a stake

Chapter 1: What is a smart contract?
For those who are very new to the ideas of cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology, it is first of all most important to understand exactly what a blockchain is. Essentially, a blockchain is a decentralized system, at the heart of which is a public ledger. A ledger is basically a way to account for the current state of the system (e.g. how much cryptocurrency is held in each account). Along with the public ledger, blockchain technology includes a consensus mechanism which dictates how the decentralized computer (i.e. the network of computers running the blockchain) updates the current state of the public ledger.

As a fun piece of history, a cryptographer named Nick Szabo realized in 1994 that a decentralized ledger system could be used to execute smart contracts (also called self-executing contracts). Mr. Szabo actually coined the phrase "smart contracts" with the goal of incorporating contract law practices into the design of electronic commerce protocols operating between strangers across the internet.

Smart contracts can facilitate the transfer and exchange of money or property in a transparent way, all while avoiding the services of a middleman.

Smart contracts also define all of the obligations and potential penalties involved in an agreement, much like traditional contracts do, but the smart contract platform also automatically enforces all of these obligations and penalties. These smart contract platforms essentially allow the development of decentralized applications to run on the network. Ethereum is currently by far the largest and most successful platform for decentralized applications, but the new platform EOS will seek to solve several of the challenges faced by the Ethereum network.

Chapter 2: Design philosophy

One of the key differences between EOS and the Ethereum network is in the design philosophy behind the networks. The Ethereum network could almost be described as application-agnostic, i.e. it is specifically designed as a neutral platform for all potential applications. In this way, as stated by the Ethereum Design Rationale document on github: Ethereum has "no features", refusing to build in "even very common high-level use cases as intrinsic parts of the protocol." This rationale reduces bloat among applications, but it also requires many different applications to reuse code, and efficiency gains for app developers could certainly be realized if certain more common functionalities were provided by the platform itself.

In contrast to this approach, EOS recognizes that many different applications require the same types of functionalities and seeks to provide those functions, such as implementations of the cryptography and app/blockchain communication tools needed by many applications. With this philosophy, EOS will feature the introduction of generalized role-based permissions, a web toolkit for interface development, self-describing interfaces, self-describing database schemes, and a declarative permission scheme. It is my understanding that these functionalities, provided by EOS, will be especially powerful for simplifying user account generation and management, as well as security issues like declarative permissions and account recovery.

Chapter 3: Consensus mechanism and governance

Another significant difference between EOS and Ethereum is in the blockchain consensus mechanism and overall blockchain governance approach. Whereas Ethereum uses Proof-of-Work (and will soon switch to hybrid Proof-of-Work/Proof-of-Stake), EOS will use Graphene technology that utilizes the Delegated Proof-of-Stake (DPOS) consensus mechanism. This choice has significant importance for commercial scalability, which will be addressed in the next chapter.

One issue with the current Proof-of-Work implementation behind the Ethereum network is the difficulty in fixing broken applications. For example, recently the DAO suffered a critical bug/hack/failure. It's important to note, that those with the "code-is-law" mentality consider the DAO hack to be a "feature", not a failure, and that users simply should have been more responsible to understand the code more carefully. In any case, the DAO failure showed that broken applications on Ethereum either result in investors facing potentially substantial losses or in disruptive hard forks. With the current Proof-of-Work consensus mechanism of Ethereum, each hard fork also results in a risk of spawning multiple competing chains, as happened with the Ethereum, Ethereum Classic split following the DAO failure. Furthermore, in order to fix a broken application, a disruptive hard fork is required which disrupts the entire Ethereum network.

In contrast, EOS includes a mechanism to freeze and fix broken or frozen applications. For example, if the DAO had been implemented on EOS, it could have been frozen, fixed, and updated without disrupting the other EOS applications. Furthermore, the DPOS consensus mechanism of EOS has no potential for spawning multiple competing chains during a hard fork. This is evidenced by the 18 successful hard forks experienced by the Steem network, which also runs on Graphene technology. Furthermore, EOS will include a legally binding constitution that establishes a common jurisdiction for dispute resolution, and it will also include self-funded community benefit applications that will be selected by stake-weighted voting.

Chapter 4: Scalability

In order to consider a platform as commercially viable, scalability is of utmost importance. This is one key area where EOS and Ethereum will differ. Currently, the Ethereum network is limited by the single threaded performance of a CPU. Early test networks achieved 25 transactions per second (in somewhat optimized conditions), which could likely be increased to 50 or 100 tx/s with optimizations. However, under load from real applications, the current transaction limit of the Ethereum network is likely 10 tx/s or less. In the past, the network has been overwhelmed and overloaded with transactions to the point that all but the highest-fee transactions were rejected. This is especially obvious during recent Initial Coin Offerings, such as the Status ICO, in which the network was completely overwhelmed and the ETH tokens suffered a massive flash crash. Note that Vitalik Buterin has laid out a roadmap to "unlimited scalability" which heavily relies on the concept of sharding. As far as I understand (which is NOT well), sharding is a technologically challenging concept that certainly increases the complexity and attack surface of the network, and potentially lowers the security of the network. I am in no way discounting sharding as a viable approach to successfully scale the Ethereum network, and it is likely that it will be successfully implemented to achieve reasonable gains in scalability.

However, in terms of scalability, EOS will have two significant advantages over the Ethereum network, and once implemented, EOS will likely be on the only platform that can handle truly commercial-scale decentralized applications. First, EOS will rely on Graphene technology, which has been shown in stress tests to achieve 10,000-100,000 transactions per second. Secondly, EOS will use parallelization to scale the network, likely up to millions of transactions per second. If these benchmarks are realized, EOS should be able to support thousands of commercial scale DAPPs. EOS will use asynchronous communications and separate authentication from execution to achieve speedups, and because it will have no transaction fees, EOS also does not require counting operations.

Chapter 5: Denial-of-service attacks

Related to the scalability of the network, it is also important to discuss potential attack vectors to the network. In this chapter, I will briefly discuss the potential for denial-of-service type attacks. This type of attack is when a malicious attacker spams a network with traffic in order to prevent legitimate traffic from getting through. It is my understanding that the Ethereum network has been proven to be vulnerable to such DOS attacks, while EOS should be invulnerable to such attacks.

In the Ethereum network, it is well-known that miners preferentially select high-fee transactions to add to the blockchain. Since there is finite bandwidth and computing power in the network, it is easy to imagine a scenario in which the network is spammed with many high-fee transactions, effectively blocking out many lower-fee legitimate transactions. You might think that typically this would be an expensive attack to execute on the network, but there are situations where there are financial incentives to do so. For example, with the recent Status ICO, it was effectively a race to contribute funds to the ICO smart contract in order to effectively receive the ICO tokens at a huge discount. This created an incentive for wealthy players to spam the network with high-fee transactions in order to ensure that their transactions went through. However, this creates a serious weakness for the Ethereum network, since a single application or smart contract can effectively freeze out the entire network.

In contrast, EOS should not be vulnerable to DOS attacks. The ownership of EOS tokens gives users a proportional stake in the network bandwidth, storage, and computing power. Therefore, spammers can only consume the proportion of the network that their EOS tokens entitle them too. DOS attacks may be possible on a given application, depending on the apps design, but those attacks can never disrupt the entire network. Startups with a very small stake invested in the network will have guaranteed, reliable bandwidth and computational power, even if many other malicious actors try to spam several large network apps.

Chapter 6: Economics of the networks: burning fees vs. owning a stake

Finally, I want to briefly discuss the different economic models of the EOS and Ethereum networks. Essentially, this is a comparison between and ownership model and a rental model. With Ethereum, gas fees are required in exchange for every calculation, storage operation, and bandwidth utilization. Furthermore, the required fees fluctuate and can spike prohibitively high as miners preferentially select transactions with the largest fees. This was especially obvious during the recent Status ICO, in which $100 gas fees were still too small, even for trivial transactions. Furthermore, as discussed in the previous chapter, this economic model creates a scenario in which rich actors can potentially freeze the entire network by flooding it with high-fee transactions. Furthermore, this model requires developers and startups to continuously burn gas fees throughout development and deployment of their applications.

In contrast, EOS will utilize an ownership model, in which holding EOS tokens gives users a proportional share in the network bandwidth, storage, and processing power. This means that if someone owns 1% of the EOS tokens, they will always have access to 1% of the network bandwidth, regardless of the load on the rest of the network. In this way, small startups and developers can purchase a relatively small part of the network in order to receive reliable, predictable network bandwidth and computing power, and simply purchase more EOS tokens when they need to scale up their application. Furthermore, since the network will have zero transaction fees, there is no network development cost, except for the initial purchase of EOS tokens. However, these can of course always be sold in order to reclaim the initial investment if desire.

Conclusion
Of course, I am a strong believer in Graphene-based technologies, largely because of their impressive scalability and minimal transaction fees. I recognize this post has had an obvious EOS bias, but keep in mind that Ethereum currently has a viable product with a market cap of ~$30 Billion, while EOS is still under development with a current market cap of $0. If you want my honest opinion, I am bullish on both EOS and Ethereum, and I believe once EOS is launched, both platforms will still have tremendous room to grow. Plus do not consider anything in this post to be investment advice, and remember to always do your own due diligence and research!

All the best,Trogdor :)

TAGS: [ #eos ] [ #ethereum ] [ #smart-contract ] [ #dapps ] [ #eth ]

Replies

@crypticj | June 23, 2017, 7:14 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Great Information on EOS very indepth, going to take a second and a third look at the project. You have my Vote! Trogdor!!

@crypticj | June 23, 2017, 7:17 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Trogdor I just resteemed the article would love a vote from you for getting a Newbie started on Steem IT. Thanks.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:20 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

No problem, Steem on, my friend!

@crypticj | June 23, 2017, 7:26 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you much appreciated the Vote you got a follower in Me, very insightful and really enjoy reading your articles. Looking forward to more in the future.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:20 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! There is definitely a lot of valuable information out there about this project :)

@cryptofixer | June 23, 2017, 7:16 p.m. | Votes: 10 | [ VOTE ]

This is going to take a while to read but hear goes nothing lol ,
If you put this much work in thumbs up to you 1 vote from me [IMAGE: https://steemitimages.com/DQmPWm1t15UzJvwjvSTLVsaLTsqCeb7S2rVYea5ZbWWSVSq/Screen_shot_2012-05-10_at_4.38.30_PM.png]

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:18 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you, my friend! Steem on!

@cryptofixer | June 23, 2017, 7:23 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

No problem, you definitely deserve to be praised

@sixkworkweek | June 24, 2017, 4:21 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Im steememe ing 😂!!!

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@cryptofixer | June 24, 2017, 4:35 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Made my night

@livingdreams | June 23, 2017, 7:17 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

The ownership Model of EOS is the perfect platform for Businesses to use as its truly decentralized. Rental model is too centralized and would just be the same governmental system.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:21 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

I definitely agree that the ownership model is one of the things I am most excited about for this project. Thanks for reading!

@livingdreams | June 23, 2017, 7:24 p.m. | Votes: 6 | [ VOTE ]

Thats one reason why Antshares/NEO is also such a good model, with an edge up over Ethereum. (And still so undervalued).
Check out a recent post I wrote on that, if you're interested. :)

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:26 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading. I am actually not that familiar with Antshares/NEO, will check out your post.

@yvonnebraaf | June 23, 2017, 7:46 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I'm also going to check out your post. I've followed all you guys who commented

@stev0lution | June 23, 2017, 11:14 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

The ownership model definitely sounds like a comfortable solution for businesses but I am not quite sure how the incentives for the block producers will work out.. they will be paid by the network itself, I guess?
Also, if I remember correctly there will be only a few wealthy block producers (that's dPoS, right?). I guess that makes consensus across the network fairly easy but doesn't this also leave a lot of the capabilities of the network unused? Imagine a network which uses the resources of the entire network efficiently (something like IOTA) but still has the capability of supporting smart contracts.. Maybe this is impossible. Maybe Ethereum can get close to that using Casper and Sharding. Let me know what you think.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:43 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Interesting thoughts. I need to do more reading about IOTA. Actually my impression is that DPOS is highly efficient, at least compared to POW and POS, which is partly what allows the network to process so many more tx/s. I'm guessing that the block producers will be paid by the network itself just like with Steem. Thanks for reading!

@stev0lution | June 24, 2017, 9:32 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I think you are correct that a network using DPOS is able to process many more tx/s than POW and POS. But I think DPOS isn't much diffenent than the current system where the processing power behind the applications is limited a few big companies. Now what about the billions of smartphones around the world? Because most of them aren't able to store an entire blockchain their capabilities remain completely unused. I guess this is where IOTA comes in and tries to provide the ability to make transactions from every device. The main problem with IOTA is that, while it could make even more transactions than DPOS possible (probably, this still has to be tested), currently it doesn't plan on supporting smart contracts because it doesn't use a blockchain but a Tangle (Directed Acyclic Graph) (looks pretty efficient, but there are some safety concerns). Can you see where I am coming from? My main concern is that DPOS makes it close to impossible for me to contribute to the network directly (processing power/ storage space) even if I wanted to. Maybe this problem simply can't be solved using just one cryptocurrency and has to be extended using systems like Golem/Swarm. Thanks for reading :D

@daxed | June 24, 2017, 11:47 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

DPOS is much more centralized than PoW or PoS in my opinion.

At first the voted in producers may not know each other, but over time they will get to know each other and even start working with each other (just like miners in PoW). Once all the most influential block producers learn about each other, they can start forming deals that benefit themselves at the expense of the normal network users. Then run misinformation campaigns to make sure they stay voted in, or even change the voting rules to keep themselves in.

It's a system that's highly efficient on the technical side, but relies quite a bit on trust. If major corruption goes on at least we can (theoretically) fork the system and start over with new producers. Not sure right now if EOS will allow forks like that but I think it needs to in order to keep the block producers honest longterm.

@dinoo | June 24, 2017, 9:21 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I had the same question here in regards to how the miners/people who run the network will be reimbursed for their efforts. @dan himself replied by block rewards. So that answers that. New coins will be mined and miners can sell them for profit. Like new Bitcoins. At least that is how I understand it up to now.

@methodise | June 26, 2017, 12:37 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

In DPoS, block producers needn't be wealthy at all (that's what the 'D' in DPoS is all about).

@stev0lution | June 26, 2017, 4:29 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Maybe I am misinformed on that one, but I thought the plan is to have only a very limited amount of block producers at any time who are being "delegated" (is that what the 'D' is about, or am I wrong here?) by the network users, so I would make sense to delegate someone (or a group) who is capable of providing a lot of processing power compared to the rest. And processing power is somewhat expensive so that is what I meant with "wealthy".

@q-mast | June 23, 2017, 7:17 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I resteemed.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:21 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, I appreciate the resteem.

@q-mast | June 23, 2017, 7:25 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for doing some research for all of us. You're welcome, I thought it was a good post to try the resteem for the first time.

@hellokitty | June 23, 2017, 7:24 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome guide, trogdor!

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:25 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks so much!

@yvonnebraaf | June 23, 2017, 7:25 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

@trogdor what a well researched and well written article. Was this an extract from your PhD? If so, I'd like to know if i could access the full thesis? And if so, where? Thanks so much for sharing

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:31 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! No, my thesis is about fluid mechanics, not crypto :) I just read about this as a hobby

@yvonnebraaf | June 23, 2017, 7:36 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I need to learn a lot more about smart contracts, I'm a foetus in this world. But i first need some deeper understanding of blockchain technology. Any pointers?

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 8:30 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Just do as much reading as you can, I'm still just learning about all of these topics as well, a lot of it is still over my head!

@busser | June 23, 2017, 7:38 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

I am bullish on both Eth and EOS too. But comparison of present Ethereum and future EOS is not quite correct. Both have to deliver yet to their promises. I have stake on Eth and am going to invest in EOS.
Meanwhile, it seems we have new kid in the race - NEO/Antshares looks very EOS like (information is scarce though).

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 7:43 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Good points, it's just speculation on my part, but EOS definitely sounds promising (of course they still have to deliver). Actually I just heard about NEO for the first time a few minutes ago. I need to do more reading about that project.

@daxed | June 25, 2017, 1:41 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

What I like about EOS is they are taking the known lessons from BitShares and improving upon the platform. Seems more grounded than NEO.

@ionlysaymeep | June 25, 2017, 2:02 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

meep

@gorillaglue | June 23, 2017, 8:35 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I agree completely. So much still to prove for all. Sometimes I can't find the ground with all this speculation.

@cryptocure | June 23, 2017, 8:11 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

@trogdor Now thats some good info and even better coming from someone who actually seems to know what they are talking about! followed and upvoted

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 8:30 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@steemanator | June 23, 2017, 8:17 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Sounds promising. Not sure if it'll ever take over ethereum but certainly has the potential.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 8:32 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! I think they'll both probably exist with their own market shares. It definitely has potential!

@sagema | June 23, 2017, 8:29 p.m. | Votes: 7 | [ VOTE ]

Here are somethings that can help. Do not invest during a price surge. Make sure the company has a product, and or service that will be used. Beware pretty faces on the front of a page, emotional connections. Follow the facts and results. Finally determine what the soft cap will be for said crypto coin. Is it $100? $10?

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 8:40 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Good tips, thanks for reading!

@sagema | June 23, 2017, 8:42 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I run a mining group. No big money yet. But I have prevented them from losing a lot. (:

@jakariashikder | June 24, 2017, 6:36 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

good tips thanks

@sixkworkweek | June 24, 2017, 4:18 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]
@brnofre | June 23, 2017, 9:08 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Great post!! Keep it up :)
By the way, I'm following you now
Cheers

@joewing | June 23, 2017, 9:17 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

EOS has great potential, but we have to wait 1 to 2 years to see the outcome.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:47 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, and I appreciate the follow!

@mufassa | June 23, 2017, 10:23 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Wow the level of detail in this article is amazing. I am just learning about EOS and this is a great introduction.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:49 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! I'm glad I could help!

@punchplump | June 23, 2017, 10:26 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Absolutely amazing article again!

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:50 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@carry0n | June 23, 2017, 10:38 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Wow, this is all new to me, thanks! Upvoted and followed to learn more :D

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:51 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! I appreciate it!

@makrotheblack | June 23, 2017, 10:42 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Really good information thanks

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:46 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@bulkygangsta | June 23, 2017, 10:43 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

Very useful post, always wanted to know something more about this coin!

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:44 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@team101 | June 23, 2017, 10:47 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Amazing and very detailed post. Thank your for sharing. Up voted.

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:53 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@sols | June 23, 2017, 10:53 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

ohh dude thank you so much for writing this up, you explain everything so well, there was quite a bit I wasnt completely understanding, it was hard to find info and I was a little embarrassed to ask anyone xD
thank you very much ^_^

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:54 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! Don't worry, there is a LOT that I don't understand still. Don't be afraid to ask :)

@xdark21 | June 23, 2017, 10:58 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

Congratulations on your success ! You are doing Steemit and social media right. Good to have you on board and we look forward to more of your writing and posts.

@is-educator | June 23, 2017, 10:58 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the breakdown! I have a better understanding now!

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:46 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, glad I could help!

@radiasi | June 23, 2017, 10:58 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Good goog.votes you oke.votes me

@steemitsteve | June 23, 2017, 11 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Very well written, I would like to humbly request a post that breaks down Ether mining and mining ops in general. It is something a lot of people seem to struggle with.

Thanks,
SteemitSteve

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! I'll see if I can get around to writing something specific in that area. I would have to do some reading first! :)

@steemitsteve | June 24, 2017, 7:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Sounds good brotha

@vicson | June 23, 2017, 11 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Interesting...!!!

@aung | June 23, 2017, 11:04 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@zapp | June 23, 2017, 11:07 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Nice summary, thanks!
I'm pretty curious to see how the funding period turns out, as it will go on for a year, right?

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, midnight | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Yep, one full year. I'll be interested to see how things turn out as well. Thanks for reading!

@steem360 | June 23, 2017, 11:11 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Your obvious EOS bias is appreciated and shared. Thanks for this excellent post.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:01 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Haha, thanks! And thanks for reading!

@aguayojoshua | June 23, 2017, 11:19 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Hey trogdor. Great post, I've started going through it but a question has risen. Do we know how bandwidth distribution is going to work? Does net neutrality play a role in this?

Thanks for sharing this write up!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:07 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hi, thanks for reading! Honestly I'm not that familiar with the specifics of net neutrality. The bandwidth distribution is proportional to the ownership of EOS tokens. If internet service providers decide to rate-limit certain sites and applications, I'm not sure exactly how that will play a role.

@wekkel | June 25, 2017, 7:24 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

But what does 'ownership of bandwidth' mean? Let's say that I own 100 EOS tokens when this thing is up and running. Do I have to do something with these tokens or can they be held as some form of passive investment (price speculation on value and/or a return being 'paid' on those tokens)?

Would love to learn how I am supposed to look at this (please build my mental model correctly).

@trogdor | June 25, 2017, 7:29 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

You can hold the tokens as a speculative investment, which is probably what many people will be doing. I think in order to utilize the network you may need to "stake" the tokens, much like Steem are vested as Steem Power. I'm not positive about that.

@wekkel | June 25, 2017, 7:52 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the reply.

Just to take this one step further: suppose I hold EOS tokens and do not 'stake' them, would I not be witholding necessary bandwidth from the system or is any bandwidth attributable to my tokens but not used by me automatically assigned to others that do use the system?

I apologise for these questions, but for me to fully understand the whitepaper, certain sections would have to be dumbed down a lot :)

@trogdor | June 25, 2017, 7:56 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Honestly...... I have no idea! haha. I THINK that as long as the network is not under heavy load, there may be no throttling of network bandwidth. Once network load is increased, bandwidth is probably throttled to guarantee apps have at least the bandwidth proportional to their staked tokens.

@kaarel | June 23, 2017, 11:19 p.m. | Votes: 9 | [ VOTE ]

Wow.. This is some serious work you have put in here dude.
I've still not quite understood ethereum, hope this cleara things up.
Thanks for the post!!

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:43 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@safwenrekik | June 24, 2017, 4:23 a.m. | Votes: 8 | [ VOTE ]

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waw 2 millions happy for you :p
50% 50 % ok :p ?. keep your great job :D!!!!

@sdilan | June 23, 2017, 11:27 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Good content @trogdor... the problems with ICO's such as EOS is that they don't have a product very risky. But high risk high reward!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:08 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! High reward sounds good to me! :p

@sdilan | June 24, 2017, 12:10 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Same here! Have you looked into Tenx? I would love you analysis on it. It ico's tommorow!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:22 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Actually I just heard of it today. Haven't read anything at all about it yet.

@sdilan | June 24, 2017, 12:49 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Aww man ... ill keep an eye out for your new content!

@the-master | June 24, 2017, 3:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Please help a new Steemie here pal
Do let me know abt my article
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@the-master/the-age-of-crypto-confusion-and-scamshttps://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@the-master/the-age-of-crypto-confusion-and-scams

@newschannel428 | June 23, 2017, 11:32 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

WOW now that was a good read and thank you for posting

@trogdor | June 23, 2017, 11:45 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! Glad you liked it.

@duhov | June 23, 2017, 11:38 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Who else is trying to give a cool comment in way to take some upvotes :D ?

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:13 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

haha, good enough.

@duhov | June 24, 2017, 12:14 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks! :D

@stanlo4we | June 23, 2017, 11:43 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

wow this is great news, i have to buy some

@waheedk | June 23, 2017, 11:47 p.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

So much information in one post. IMPRESSIVE.

https://i.imgflip.com/vqtiu.jpg

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:17 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

haha, thanks for reading!

@the-master | June 24, 2017, 3:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@the-master/the-age-of-crypto-confusion-and-scams

@lovesteemit | June 23, 2017, 11:55 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great stuff!

Thank you very much for the interesting post.

@alchz | June 24, 2017, 12:08 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This is super cool. This will help mum and pops understand what the hell I am always rambling on about now! Ether Ethereum BLOCK CHAIN ARGH!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:20 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! Yeah I always have a bit of trouble getting the family on board :D

@davebrewer | June 24, 2017, 12:09 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Nice summary that is almost understandable by this layman

One small step for a cryptoman, one giant leap for cryptokind

STEEM On !!

Dave

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:16 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! Glad it was understandable :D

@arkoko | June 24, 2017, 12:12 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

After reading the article, it seems the eos is quite different from eth a lot. It's really helpful that letting me have a brief idea about eos !👍🏼

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:23 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@the-master | June 24, 2017, 3:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@the-master/the-age-of-crypto-confusion-and-scams

@allmonitors | June 24, 2017, 12:18 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Good stuff and well detailed. Thanks a bunch.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:23 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@jeffjagoe | June 24, 2017, 12:22 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

thanks for the healthy load of info! I intend to watch the EOS ICO unravel from the sidelines for a little while before making any moves

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:24 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! It's probably a good idea to watch things carefully before making a move.

@lawrenceho84 | June 24, 2017, 12:24 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks man! That is a very detailed description of EOS. I tried explaining EOS to my friends but can't do it well like you. I will point ur article to my friends so that they understand EOS. Appreciate your efforts. Upvote and follow. Thumbs up!!!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 12:25 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! Glad I could help :)

@mynewlife | June 24, 2017, 12:41 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

With the speed of development I'm wondering what next. Ethereum doesn't really start up properly yet. This two years will be real up and down in this new technology.

@ctheprince | June 24, 2017, 12:47 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks, am going to research some of this myself

@adventurecole | June 24, 2017, 12:53 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This is wicked helpful

@zecbroaswk | June 24, 2017, 1:02 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

@jjjjosue | June 24, 2017, 1:05 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Clear and thorough.. This is awesome, thank you

@passion-ground | June 24, 2017, 1:09 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You're brilliant until you're not...

@hiroyamagishi | June 24, 2017, 1:13 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

A lot of words but it is worth the time to read.. I am following you now, resteeming this article

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:48 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@ahmedezzat | June 24, 2017, 1:21 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Wooooooow
Amazing article

@norrko | June 24, 2017, 1:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

That was very enlightening, i am new to cryptocurrency and have a lot to learn, i feel i need the book for dummies
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@purpletalon55 | June 24, 2017, 1:23 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Excellent post, a lot of valuable information I learned a lot of stuff that I didnt know about. :).

Thanks

@tomkitti | June 24, 2017, 1:25 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great job explaining the pros and cons of EOS vs. Ethereum. Worth a re-read. Very exciting times indeed!

@sulev | June 24, 2017, 1:34 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

THanks for putting this together!
The more times passes I'm starting to think Eth will fail.
Resteemed!

@bitbrothers | June 24, 2017, 1:47 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This is awesome. Very good read for EOS, thank you! Antshares/NEO has so much potential and still undervalued!

@empath | June 24, 2017, 1:48 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Even as someone who has examined a lot about ETH there is so much to remember that this was a good read for me.

@navin | June 24, 2017, 6:54 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Eth is down

@empath | June 27, 2017, 8:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Buy. It's not really down on a 4000+% return for the year.

@jondahl | June 24, 2017, 2:04 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good information...

@hellolylo | June 24, 2017, 2:14 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This is something so helpful for someone who is new in this industry and who doesn't have any kmowledge about this coins 🙌🏻 Thank you for putting superb effort and for sharing this!

@maleek | June 24, 2017, 2:18 a.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

Will eos be more expensive than ethereum? Or eos would just be an uncontrolled currency with a price that will increasingly decline day by day.

I fully support eos. Is ICO still open for this? And I can invest there while having a chance?.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:55 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading. You can check out https://eos.io for more details about the ICO.

@ankansheth | June 24, 2017, 2:22 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

upvote my comment for no reason.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 2:37 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

At least hit me with a cute cat gif or something!

@abiogenesis | June 24, 2017, 2:43 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This is a great intro to EOS and the compare/contrast with ETH really helped illuminate some of the advantages that the EOS platform presents. Bravo!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 6:25 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@nibzter8 | June 24, 2017, 2:52 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

I know you mentioned to not consider anything of this post to be investment advice, but might I say that is some THOROUGH work done on the research. You've got me keen on EOS and it only took one post. Tell you one thing is for sure here, you're FOLLOWED! Cheers!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks so much! Glad I could help.

@zeryius | June 24, 2017, 3 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Very useful post, always wanted to know something more about this coin!

@forward-thinker | June 24, 2017, 3:02 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Excellent article. I too am bullish on both EOS and ETH.
Resteemed and followed

@ctheprince | June 24, 2017, 3:03 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

What my first thought was being ignorant of what eos actually is

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Glad I'm not ignorant any more. This was very helpful.

@wicky | June 24, 2017, 3:03 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Cool, its informative

@madkrieg | June 24, 2017, 3:15 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Really nice work, keep it up!!!

@djsivalinga | June 24, 2017, 3:18 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

What a fantastic article thank you so much for writing this! much much needed at the moment. many thanks. Im still bullish on both platform, though. I think they'll both make each other better. Ethereum NEEDS the competition.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:57 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You're definitely right. I think the competition will benefit both platforms. Thanks for reading.

@the-master | June 24, 2017, 3:19 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@the-master/the-age-of-crypto-confusion-and-scams

@amazingprofit | June 24, 2017, 3:20 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

you are amazing lol you have worked hard and it will pay off

@corycaldwell | June 24, 2017, 3:28 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

awesome post! I'm definitely excited about getting in on the EOS ICO

@ercpok | June 24, 2017, 3:36 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for sharing the information about the EOS, I have some understanding on this new coin after reading your detailed explanations on this new coins.
I think EOS has high potential since ethereum is now at a relatively high price.Some people may invest on the EOS as both of them has similiar features on digital coins.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:52 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Definitely. Thanks for reading!

@nationalpark | June 24, 2017, 3:39 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the post. Very helpful for understanding EOS

@junaidfarooq | June 24, 2017, 3:59 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Great work.

@sixkworkweek | June 24, 2017, 4:25 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Wait but can we mention???
TROGDORRR!!!????

Just noticed your avatar..

..😏homestar runner.. Ok ok earlly adopters .. Props

@sixkworkweek | June 24, 2017, 4:26 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉

@mrjohnson | June 24, 2017, 4:12 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This was the best well-written post I've read around here. Please, keep writing!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 6:27 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, I appreciate the compliment!

@tudisco | June 24, 2017, 4:14 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Nice write up. Thanks! Where/When can I buy some EOS?

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:52 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, check out https://eos.io

@uchenna | June 24, 2017, 4:16 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Dear person reading this
I don't care who you are but I hope your day has been going very well
If not ,I hope it gets better you are an amazing person who will inspire others to do great things so keep the hard work up

@rolynikita | June 24, 2017, 4:21 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

nice post man upvoted and followed

@silveready1 | June 24, 2017, 4:25 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome, I really appreciate all of the research you have done on this topic, many of us are relatively new to the Crypto-Universe and it's a huge help to get information and advice on some of these up and coming currencies - i think EOS is a well thought out Crypto currency and definitely looks very promising! Thanks again, upvoted & Following.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 6:22 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, glad I could help!

@hasanyoussef94 | June 24, 2017, 4:25 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for putting in the time to clear things up, this breakdown is great !
Kept it simple and clear, keep up the good work man !

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 6:27 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks, glad I could help!

@drakos | June 24, 2017, 4:33 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

https://i.imgflip.com/1rfgwa.jpg

@tayyabafridi | June 24, 2017, 4:38 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I thought I am the only supporter of Ethereum but Here you are? I love Ethereum.... Do you?

@tayyabafridi | June 24, 2017, 4:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I am going to resteem it

@nishu | June 24, 2017, 4:46 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome Job dude! feeling much more confidence about my knowledge of this coin, but curious too....

@time4rise | June 24, 2017, 4:58 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Very useful post. Likely searching for it

@mughalsajid | June 24, 2017, 5:03 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good helpful article.

@ayijufridar | June 24, 2017, 5:07 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

For me new to cryptocurrancy, this article is very useful. Thank you for sharing

@alaaabujabal | June 24, 2017, 5:08 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

ohh dude thank you so much for writing this up, you explain everything so well, there was quite a bit I wasnt completely understanding, it was hard to find info and I was a little embarrassed to ask anyone xD
thank you very much .

@erik19 | June 24, 2017, 5:14 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

it's good
hii see my content :)

@doqstrader | June 24, 2017, 5:20 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank for bias. I'm looking for concrete answer what is the best of EOS. Very detail explain. Long enough to read the longer to write. Thanks for write. 😊

@pal | June 24, 2017, 5:20 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I agree that EOS has a great potential. But there is simple fact. ETH is already build and used (and will be improved over time), EOS is in development.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 6:29 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Definitely important to keep that in mind. Thanks for reading!

@texasvsjohnson | Oct. 5, 2017, 12:52 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Ethereum is being used? What businesses are using it?

@fusan | June 24, 2017, 5:21 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

It was a valuable document .I wanted to study about Graphene technology and EOS. Especially, parallelization is interested.by white parer,EOS seems to use EVM,so please also consider about that.

@agsupun | June 24, 2017, 5:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good work on the post. Keep it up.

@johnsmith | June 24, 2017, 5:29 a.m. | Votes: 17 | [ VOTE ]

Six letter summary:

EOS > ETH

:)

@jzeek | June 24, 2017, 6:17 a.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

ether is still the best but who knows one day when EOS launches and crush both ether and bitcoin...

@endaksi1 | June 24, 2017, 9:55 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

And then something better may come along and crush EOS :)

@tribaldoor | June 24, 2017, 11:34 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

hahaha So every time a better thing is going to come ;))

@shareme | June 25, 2017, 3:45 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I agree, maybe a blockchain mixed with an AI.

@humblehustle | June 24, 2017, 6:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

ether ftw!

@treeleaves | June 24, 2017, 9:16 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

It's interesting that EOS may improve upon Ethereum, but maybe the future is a split system, where a good currency works on top of an efficient social contract blockchain, such as EOS.

@martie7 | June 24, 2017, 10:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

EOS > eth

Make ethereum poor again!

@michaelsullivan | June 24, 2017, 5:40 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

This is quite well written! I am still new to Ethereum and EOS and the whole cryptic world as it is. I wonder what your thoughts are on the NEO (ANS) platform.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:59 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading. Actually I haven't heard anything about NEO yet. I need to do some reading.

@royschuh | June 24, 2017, 5:42 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Frickin awesome content and post @trogdor , this might be the DUMMY question of the month but I followed EOS for awhile, get the notice for token sale, then I go to click on it and it says.

"US ip detected, cannot participate"

Whats that all about? Any clue? Thanks for any help!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 6:34 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

It seems like they are blocking United States IP addresses for participating for some legal reasons. From a technological point of view, participation is probably possible using a VPN or the TOR browser. I am not sure about the legality of that.

@royschuh | June 24, 2017, 11:44 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Damn that is annoying lol, Have been following them a long time, did not know they would block out the US.

@happy-moth | June 24, 2017, 5:54 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Great article! Lots of useful information here. Thanks so much! :-)

@sneakgeekz | June 24, 2017, 5:58 a.m. | Votes: 5 | [ VOTE ]

Fantastic post. You just convinced me to sell at least half my ETH. I was an investor of the DAO, luckily, I was able get back my original investment plus a little extra from the chain split.

I’ve been taking for granted that there wont be another chain split. The amount of code hosted on the Ethereum platform during the DAO pales in comparison to the amount of code hosted today. With the recent rise in ICO launches and the amount of money raised I think that there is a high probability that there is some buggy code and an incentive to exploit it.

I think it’s just a matter of time before another DAO type of event surfaces. I hope that I am wrong but I can’t help to think that even if the code is being audited it doesn’t matter, if their tool set cant test or measure an unknown variable.

Resteemed

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:47 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading. I definitely think that the mechanism to freeze and fix applications on EOS is one of the major advantages that it will have.

@sneakgeekz | June 24, 2017, 2:37 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Yes agreed, it's a great failsafe feature to have and it creates confidence in the project.

I dumped some ETH to double up my on my STEEM power.

Thanks again!

@enterg | June 24, 2017, 6:02 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for this informative post !
EOS will be a great innovation in the world of crypto.
I wonder how the price of ETH will be related and how the release date (in two days June 26th)
will affect ETH (if so) .

@rudystyle | June 24, 2017, 6:07 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Great explanation with a lot of detail. The only apprehension I have with EOS is that it seems they will run their ICO for a complete year without any caps. I don't know how that will benefit early investors

@smokythedog | June 24, 2017, 6:14 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you so much for all these informations. For me as a newbee it's hard to understand everything what you are telling but I try. I hope to grow up my understanding reading valuable post like yours. Thanks again.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 6:38 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, there is definitely a lot of information in the crypto world.

@travisjin | June 24, 2017, 6:26 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Great post! Thank you for info.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:39 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@rajtherule | June 24, 2017, 6:30 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

ether is an upcoming coin and would certainly gain more value in future, BURST is also a good option presently.

@omninova | June 24, 2017, 6:33 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Thats a great write up, have $4

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:32 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@arbitrarykitten | June 24, 2017, 6:35 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Incredible write up. You put some serious work into this. Thank you from a new kid :) Upvoted, followed and resteemed. Well done :)

@jakariashikder | June 24, 2017, 6:38 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for this

@sa6231 | June 24, 2017, 6:43 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Informative post!!! It's shows your hard work behind this post...

@danielkempe | June 24, 2017, 6:52 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Seriously awesome post. I've been digging deep into Ethereum, so it's nice to get an overview of EOS. I have the EOS ICO in my calendar :-)

@fechaugger | June 24, 2017, 7:07 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

What do you guys think about the market cap of ETH by the end of this year?

@nov3a4 | June 24, 2017, 7:12 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you for very detailed post about EOS and Ethereum comparison. It is so much helpful to understand this improved technology. And to motivate to find out more about it. I am still new to steem! BUt I like it a lot, still trying to understand it to use it to maximal potential. I think EOS will be huge, since it is similar technology. I am trying to understand Steem, Steem Power, Upvoting, how to write new article which could bring money similar like yours, etc. It is such revolution. I believe EOS will also be. Beacause of the same technology and the same developers. Looking forward!

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:36 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! Best of luck.

@mahmoudh | June 24, 2017, 6:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks

@mahmoudh | June 24, 2017, 6:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading! Best of luck.

@pratikchordia | June 24, 2017, 7:26 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thats a helping hand.

@jerry543 | June 24, 2017, 7:29 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

HODL BOTH!

@geegitravel | June 24, 2017, 7:31 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

It is difficult for me to understand.

@verrytechnical | June 24, 2017, 7:32 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Interesting read, I will have to read it again when I'm more caffeinated though so i understand more of it :). hehe.

@itan05 | June 24, 2017, 7:41 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

very informative! love this :)

@aslamnirala | June 24, 2017, 7:42 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great knowledge of coins and sharemarkets keep us informed ..

@hananahmed | June 24, 2017, 7:46 a.m. | Votes: 16 | [ VOTE ]

EOS = blockchain + bots
There’s not much technical information available currently. But EOS is not just about smart contracts + high scalability. It has a completely different design and vision compared to Ethereum. EOS uses Delegated Proof-of-Stake just like Graphene does.
It uses Network Bandwidth Allocation system to effectively share the blockchain.
It’s like time sharing. It’s like owning an instance on an Amazon web service that you can share
In EOS the human-readable source code (the “bot”) is uploaded directly to the blockchain. As we know, the Ethereum smart contracts are binary data instead.

@cryptofort | June 24, 2017, 8:04 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you for such good compare.
Maybe EOS can be the best platform and change the world, but now ETH hold first position and bubble is growing fast.

@irastra | June 24, 2017, 8:18 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great post. Upvote and follow. I have been asking myself what's the difference, now I understand much better. Maybe you should write a comparison about Golem and SONM, too.
I'd like to see, if you have some explanative comment on my post
https://steemit.com/cadastre/@irastra/how-to-steal-sweden

@martinhadameme | June 24, 2017, 8:20 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I really need to research into this!

@tarekadam | June 24, 2017, 8:21 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Very well written post. Thank you very much to outline the differences in such a clear way.

@sibinovic | June 24, 2017, 8:23 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hello , nice post .
Please check this out , im new on steemit so every support means to me .
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@sibinovic/dont-get-hooked-by-a-scam

@cbdhealthbuzz | June 24, 2017, 8:25 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great read will have to look into EOS thanks for the post.

@ciz | June 24, 2017, 8:28 a.m. | Votes: 12 | [ VOTE ]

> Just someone who uses Google reasonably well. @trogdor

Referring to this post, there's 2 types of Google user: You and...the rest of the world 😂😂😂. Such a great article here. You nailed it bro! 😎

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:45 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

haha, I don't know about that, but thanks, my friend!

@hitchi | June 24, 2017, 8:45 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for this work! it makes me better understand the future of decentralized networks. I see now what is the benefits of own a part of network over renting it.

@dream.pro | June 24, 2017, 8:54 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

AMAZING Poste! Very useful!!! I follow you and upvote most of your post! If you want you can do the same! I wish you 10 000 followers !! :))

@josefinowaje | June 24, 2017, 12:42 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

A great thing to know that a lot of people are passionate about the innovative way of using a lot of broad idea to distract the how can share the wealth in public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crypto WORLD

@joeyarnoldvn | June 24, 2017, 9:04 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

EOS has consensus. So, is consensus better not having consensus? Does ETH have consensus? Isn't decentralized cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, Lifecoin, ETH, and others, by definition, using a consensus system with like the block chains, the information, the bits, the money, between the computers online, which adds security to the blocks?
.
I thought they already had consensus. I thought ETH already had consensus. I am a beginner to all of this. I am still trying to learn it all. I am a dummy here. I am not a whale yet. I am not a real boy. I am Ariel, a mermaid hoping to make it up onto Bitcoin Land.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 1:42 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

All blockchains use a consensus mechanism, they just use different approaches. You can do some research on "proof of stake", "proof of work", and "delegated proof of stake" to learn more about the different mechanism.

@joeyarnoldvn | June 24, 2017, 1:47 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Right. Yeah. Good. I have heard of those things before. I am starting to understand the differences. I think Steem had or has something like a delegated proof of stake system and Bitcoin used proof of work for the blocks.

@siddartha | June 24, 2017, 9:06 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Well, I wanted to read the whole post, but well it was too long! It must have taken you a full week to prepare this. But surely I have been hearing a lot about EOS lately. I think it would be only available on OL, right?

@encapture | June 24, 2017, 9:06 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the clear explanation.

@cryptotech | June 24, 2017, 9:10 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Great post, yes it looks EOS will give tough competition to ethereum but Ethereum is already proved it market with its technical potential and user base.

Now lets wait for EOS as it will have so much improved functionalities.

@pratikchordia | June 24, 2017, 9:14 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Quality post, I follow.

@vnukkarpov | June 24, 2017, 9:15 a.m. | Votes: 19 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @trogdor !
I really liked your post! Thank you!
I translated it into Russian and published on golos.io (rus fork steemit)
Link:
https://golos.io/eos/@vnukkarpov/eos-protiv-ethereum-dlya-chainikov-perevod-s-angliiskogo

@cryptopreneur | June 24, 2017, 2:37 p.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

sweet. way to go on translating it, vnukkarpov, you cryptopreneur .

@architmehrotra | June 24, 2017, 6:23 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@architmehrotra/why-ethereum-price-fell-from-over-usd300-to-10-cents-in-a-day-simplest-explanation

@carlostiziano | June 24, 2017, 9:40 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

It would be a great post to translate into Spanish! I'm going to try using google translate and alter some of the grammar since the translation can go so far... great post!!

@martie7 | June 24, 2017, 9:58 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Good work.

....next hardfork must add page system. Too much comments. I can't scroll down it all cause my browser is freezing.

@thinksalot | June 25, 2017, 12:24 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

All I can say is THANK YOU. Now, How do we get EOS? I have been hearing about it for a couple weeks.
Keeps these informational Highways rollin!!

Have a great evening!!

@georgemosomi | June 27, 2017, 3:05 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @thinksalot. You send ETH to the EOS account which will then be credited with a share of EOS early next week (3 days 21 hours from now as at today). The website and instructions to obtain EOS can be found here: https://eos.io/

@ycz | July 23, 2017, 8:09 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I use the Exodus wallet, you can exchange Bitcoins (among others) for EOS, it's very convenient

@thename | Sept. 6, 2017, 2:28 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

There is a simple way I just found out about:
Get coinomi mobile wallet. Put some Bitcoin or altcoins into it. Open an eos wallet inside the ethereum wallet just by swiping to the side until you see it. Use shapeshift to transform whatever crypto you have into eos tokens. Done.

@bba | June 24, 2017, 9:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This piece is so good that you had me punched the Follow button three times so I won't miss a thing from you. :)

@samrehat | June 24, 2017, 9:26 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

great information

@digital-gypsy | June 24, 2017, 9:33 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Clearly explained for everyone. A great article for noobies!
When I am asked to explain someone what Ethereum is,
I normally try to give a simple explanation without having to much going into the technical details,
I alwazs say the Ethereum Block-chain Network is ultimately a online computer, where
people can build applications on based on an own crypto currency !

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:28 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@digital-gypsy | June 25, 2017, 7:20 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

thanks to you ^-^ !!

@alaaabujabal | June 24, 2017, 9:37 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

The ownership Model of EOS is the perfect platform for Businesses to use as its truly decentralized. Rental model is too centralized and would just be the same governmental system.

@azlansugihen | June 24, 2017, 9:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Very important information, goog guide about eos to me :)

@markpluto | June 24, 2017, 9:40 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you for your informative and insightful article.

@hamidreza-asgari | June 24, 2017, 9:48 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for sharing

@dinoo | June 24, 2017, 10:02 a.m. | Votes: 11 | [ VOTE ]

Serious question: One thing I fail to understand yet is the sustainable funding of the EOS network. Where is the incentive to run an EOS node/ mine EOS? With Ethereum it's clear, give computing power to the network, in return receive the gas fees, hence network grows as users pay for it continuously. But EOS? Once all EOS tokens are sold to users the miners don't have anything anymore to generate income to pay for the servers. They basically work for free. Tokens might explode in price or not, but they're only exchanged between users who initially got them during ICO. I'm sure the mechanism to fund the network is there somewhere. So, what did I miss?

@dan | June 24, 2017, 1:09 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Block rewards

@dinoo | June 24, 2017, 1:14 p.m. | Votes: 9 | [ VOTE ]

Oh, so there come new coins all the time and the once created amount for ICO, devs, etc is not the max number. Apparently that's what I missed. Ok that is easy then. All in :D Thanks @dan and maybe see you in Portugal : )

@tzs | June 30, 2017, 4:38 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

What are the block rewards?

@hammadkhan | June 24, 2017, 10:19 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

woww great keep posting good thing

@writewords | June 24, 2017, 10:21 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

And I'm now hearing that EOS will be off limits to US citizens. who said that is it a law or aomething? This government shit has got to go.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:31 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I'm not sure exactly why it will be off limits to US citizens. I have a feeling it is to protect the EOS team since the US has a lot of tough regulations for these type of things. Technologically speaking, it would still be able to participate using a VPN or TOR browser to spoof IP addresses.

@writewords | June 25, 2017, 1:21 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Yeah, technically speaking it would be possible. I just don't like to mingle with jails when I don't have to. I'm really getting sick of this centralized governance body bullshit.

@aziz1993 | June 24, 2017, 10:24 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

good job

@saved4newlife | June 24, 2017, 10:32 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Super job here. I'm trying to learn about all of this and things like this are so confusing to someone new like me. Great post. Thanks.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:33 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, glad I could help!

@zubair20 | June 24, 2017, 10:34 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Woww ... You summarized six chapters in your own word. I read it, and it give me a lot of information, i also enjoyed it a lot.
Thanks for sharing @trogdor

@cryptomonitor | June 24, 2017, 10:36 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great Article, finally reading something with great value ! Great ! Please upvote, follow

@patrickmeier | June 24, 2017, 10:36 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

That's awesome! Thanks for the share :)

@regi18 | June 24, 2017, 10:41 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Before today I didn't know that EOS exist, but I think they have a big potential

@cryptobyte | June 24, 2017, 10:41 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Great post thank you! :D

@zlacee | June 24, 2017, 10:43 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

very impressive and good story mate. it was verry helpful to me. i hope you'l keep on sharing story like this. these informations meants alt to some percent to every steemit users and for digital earning peoples. keep it up!!

@peterchen145 | June 24, 2017, 10:43 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

great articl

@susanli3769 | June 24, 2017, 10:50 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great post and in depth info. Thanks for sharing. Very helpful.

@sahilgoni | June 24, 2017, 11:26 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks sir for such a beautiful article! That is a very detailed description of EOS. And i get the all points clearly. Thanks again and keep sharing all goods articles

Upvote and follow.

Thumbs up!!! :)

@bitzoner | June 24, 2017, 11:53 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome man (y)

@johannes123 | June 24, 2017, 11:59 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank's for great read! Learned a lot from it :)

@akronte | June 24, 2017, 12:05 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thx a lot for the info. Following you.

@parminder | June 24, 2017, 12:30 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

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@sanees | June 24, 2017, 12:51 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

This is an excellent article . Most important points are scalability . Atleast in theory eos wins here . From a pure block chain interface i think erhereuem has an advantange . I think ethereum gains much more traction in private block chain hosted by companies snd government .. stakes vs fee .. not sure how this will turn up

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:36 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading and for the thoughtful comment.

@nutela | June 24, 2017, 1:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I would have never read this if it weren't for Mac OS X rahter good text to speech :)

@waniowski | June 24, 2017, 1:05 p.m. | Votes: 7 | [ VOTE ]

good work

@andre-ager | June 24, 2017, 1:06 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

nice write up. I have ben vested in NEM which is POSD and also really like the looks of Ardor. appreciate the insite into EOS. I will investigate further.

@wilsonlet | June 24, 2017, 1:07 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

EOS and ETH, Bitcoin are different and is run buy different individual , development of technology will try to reduce the existing one value but because there is room for constant update both EOS and ETH will stand on there own and perform better on the kind of service they deliver. So therefore EOS and IOTA are just new improve technology but can not take the place of Eth and bitcoin it also give room diversification of investment because it is not good putting ones egg in one basket.

@bosjaya | June 24, 2017, 1:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

http://s29.postimg.org/mh6aj1gl3/unnamed.png

wow wow wow
Thanks man!

@adriansky | June 24, 2017, 1:11 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I was really hyped for this release until i read that US cannot purchase or can we use a VPN?

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:38 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Legally speaking I don't know what are the implications of participating if you are in the US, but technologically speaking it would be possible to spoof your IP address using a VPN or TOR browser.

@patil | June 24, 2017, 1:25 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You are the crypto Man. Good analysis, keep it up

@awindenberger | June 24, 2017, 1:35 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the excellent comparison. I've been trying to understand what EOS is about, and this compare and contrast piece is a perfect way to do so.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:39 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, glad I could help.

@sologimi | June 24, 2017, 2:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @trogdor upvoted and resteemed

@stwait | June 24, 2017, 2:15 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the awesome tutorial!

@dwhite | June 24, 2017, 2:23 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome post! Thanks for the info. Earned another follower.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:48 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@arcange | June 24, 2017, 2:34 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

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@cryptopreneur | June 24, 2017, 2:36 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

will recommend these as must-read articles for cryptopreneurs :)

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:47 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks, I appreciate that!

@kayyali | June 24, 2017, 2:45 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Hi ,Im kayyali and i read u`r post i found it really help full and i would like u to vote my comment up thanks .

@will-zewe | June 24, 2017, 2:49 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

One thing I'm curious about. You said eos will have an automatic common jurisdiction established adjoined to the smart contract being set up and executed. That's pretty cool as a default selection, I really like that. However there might be times where I want to specify my own more private jurisdiction with a separate entity for dispute resolution, do you know if this would be possible to program so my own personal jurisdiction was the one used and not a common one where eos already has its own arbitration system set up.

That's kinda a big deal for corps and the like to use their own arbitration system, like I said as a general rule a default arbitration system is great like awesome, but for specialization it would be nice to be able to specify our own specific one.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:46 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I'm not sure exactly about the details of the jurisdiction details, but I think it will be similar to a terms-of-service. I imagine it will be fairly general. It would be possible to program a private jurisdiction that is specific to a certain application.

@will-zewe | June 24, 2017, 11:22 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Excellent, that's awesome to hear. Oh boy am I looking forward to eos. Great post as always :-)

@andreysar | June 24, 2017, 8:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great work, really liked

@writtenbird | June 24, 2017, 2:51 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Not being in tech, I find it immensely difficult to follow and interpret the multitude of cryptocoins and their conceptual foundations, but this helped a lot. You've convinced me! Thanks for doing the legwork on the research on EOS.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:49 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, glad I could help!

@mreddy | June 24, 2017, 2:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great info about ether :)..

@nyxsoren | June 24, 2017, 3 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you so much for this very valuable information. Keep up the good work. Upvoted. Followed.

@clix5 | June 24, 2017, 3:09 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great Post. Thanks

@bilalabdulkhaliq | June 24, 2017, 3:21 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Just followed you to keep seeing you good content in my feeds.

You are doing great by guiding all the new steemians. Keep it up.

@alexanderbaima | June 24, 2017, 3:23 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Even if EOS offers more features than Ethereum, that does not necessarily make it more valuable. Cryptocurrencies will only be as strong as the communities that support them, and with the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance, Ether is not going away anytime soon. If JP Morgan built their platform on Ethereum, that is the crypto I would invest in.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:50 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good points. I definitely don't think Ethereum will be going away any time soon! I'm generally bullish on ETH, and excited for EOS too.

@gingyptian | June 24, 2017, 3:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I don't need to read through all this to know that EOS is better than ETH :)

@iggyg85 | June 24, 2017, 3:36 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

@trogdor That was very informative for a crypto newb such as myself. While I'm horrible at retaining info, I'm glad this here to look back upon. On an unrelated note, I was wondering what kind of blogs do you like reading most on here? I ask because I'm researching trending bloggers for a future article.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:53 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading, I'm generally interested in tech articles, as well as precious metals, fitness, etc...

@iggyg85 | June 25, 2017, 1:04 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you much. The first edition of this article has been posted with you tagged, a link to this post and your answer. I will not post it here unless you give me direct permissions for this kindness.

@enomujjass | June 24, 2017, 3:37 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

thank you for sharing

@raphaelll | June 24, 2017, 3:44 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I went to eos.io and it tells me us -ip detected not able to participate. How can I get in the ico ?

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:55 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

It seems like the ICO will block US IP addresses. IP addresses can be spoofed using a VPN or the TOR browser as far as I know. I do not know the legal implications of participating from the US.

@razazaidi | June 24, 2017, 3:45 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

centralize currency it ill be good at start but it will looses its value by the time..

@agilblade | June 24, 2017, 3:47 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Excellent work @trogdor! Thanks for the awesome guide. I'll be getting some EOS! Keep up the good work!

@avicena41 | June 24, 2017, 3:59 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

The funny thing whenever you try to buy the so called "book for dummies", is actualy buying a book that is insulting you even before you open the first page, addmiting you are dummy. I understand that we are far away from being an experts on most fields, but i would prefere to buy a book that is treating me the least as the "begginer".

@ilir | June 24, 2017, 5:30 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

When you look it in different perspective, "Dummies" we might be if we looking today's society , wee are not farr from it!

@intutkri2 | June 24, 2017, 3:59 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Nice Book

@kayyali | June 24, 2017, 3:59 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I Found ur article really useful thanks a lot for your hard work .

@ddschteinn | June 24, 2017, 4:10 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the excellent post, very impressive bit of research and writing. I have quite a bit to learn, and this is a good start. I like it's angled for we dummies, makes it easier to comprehend. Thanks for taking the time and effort. Have a nice day as well.

@trogdor | June 24, 2017, 7:56 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@onphamon | June 24, 2017, 4:22 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

thank you! it's nice and useful!

@will.ctm | June 24, 2017, 4:23 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

After reading this, I might have to go back and check how to diversify more efficently 🤔

@ika497 | June 24, 2017, 4:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemit.com/art/@ika497/3d-trick-art-make-a-surprise-by-holes-in-your-hands

@galactic123 | June 24, 2017, 4:51 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Well, its hard to say if EOS will be better than Ethereum if it still has not even launched yet.

@sv67216721 | June 24, 2017, 4:57 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Great Work. Appreciate your effort.

@manishsmcet | June 24, 2017, 4:57 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Nice post ...Crazy article here.. Love it...

@fexwix | June 24, 2017, 4:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good post.you are good.

@kevinblake | June 24, 2017, 5:29 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I still don't understand the U.S. being excluded...any thoughts? Is there a work-around for those that live in the U.S. to participate?

@echristo | June 24, 2017, 5:30 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

very nice. thanks for your help

@agcrypt | June 24, 2017, 5:39 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

An outstanding and informative post. I really appreciate you taking the time to gather and communicate your knowledge on this subject. Cheers!

@javio | June 24, 2017, 5:50 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Nice work Trog...can I call you that?...if not, I apologise....New cryptos seem to be emerging every now and then and some of them (e.g. Zcash) are doing well. So you might be right maybe a little bias but still not wrong. Thanks for the post. Will keep an eye out for EOS...cheers bro

@diya28 | June 24, 2017, 6:01 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

great thought provoking post , really appreciable post . wanna resteem it

@haqnawaz | June 24, 2017, 6:05 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Nice!

@abdullahmushtaq | June 24, 2017, 6:08 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

good work @trogdor , really nice concept dude.
i really appreciated it and also getting much knowledge from it ..thankyoy.
follow me @abdullahmushtaq
not as famous as you.but am trying

@sami5031 | June 24, 2017, 6:23 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

i have a theory where EOS will kill ETH by dumping it is earned token from the ico,EOS plan to hae one billion in ETH coins raised.what do you guys think?

@gwapology | June 24, 2017, 6:41 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

this is so cool

@stackin | June 24, 2017, 6:52 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome Breakdown... should I buy EOS .. hmmm :)

@lqss64 | June 24, 2017, 7:31 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I like the EOS ownership idea, it comes with other kind of perspective. Thanks for this detail.

@hamzaasaf | June 24, 2017, 7:51 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great Information on EOS very indepth, going to take a second and a third look at the project. You have my Vote! Trogdor!!

@sohaib2967 | June 24, 2017, 7:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @trogdor !
Loved ur post and i just hope people do get inspired with the crytocurrency philosophy and let this crytographic world enlarge. Ur efforts are truly admired in this regard. Thumbs up BUDDY 👍🏻❤️

@kkoleva89 | June 24, 2017, 8:01 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome!!!! This is quite well written! I am still new to Ethereum and EOS and the whole cryptic world as it is.... Keep up the good work......!!!!!
I am totally amazed :)
May I translate it into Bulgarian?
Thanks

@sologimi | June 24, 2017, 8:11 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice post

@alexbaws | June 24, 2017, 8:21 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

i really like your post! keep it up!

@getsome3000 | June 24, 2017, 8:23 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I just want a bunch of both!!!

@amburator | June 24, 2017, 8:28 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Amazing post bud.I learned a lot.Great job and keep up doing it.
All the best, amburator

@bitmig | June 24, 2017, 8:41 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good article, clear explanation.

@memeddewi | June 24, 2017, 8:42 p.m. | Votes: 9 | [ VOTE ]

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@ivangarza | June 24, 2017, 8:54 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Sounds very good! Let´s get into both trains and ride the momentum!

@skinnybob42 | June 24, 2017, 9:03 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Ive got a few questions i need someone to clarify for me. First, Eos's ICO, its going to last for about a year and wont be on the market to trade till its over right? I mean if thats correct, whats the difference if i buy eos when the ico releases than towards the end of the ico, wouldnt the price per token remain the same? And when purchasing tokens, i read that you dont get to pick how much tokens you want to purchase, its more it picks for you depending on the amount of ETH you send. The way the ICO is set out is very strange to me.. does anyone feel the same?

Thanks to anyone who can help me with my questions 😊

@laolballs | June 24, 2017, 9:15 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice write up , based on what i read here , i think is some potentials here

@bluesky2100 | June 24, 2017, 9:24 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Exellent and well-executed post on EOS & Ethereum!

https://media.giphy.com/media/SxQIFq5Vy0Jxe/giphy.gif

@muhammadhassan | June 24, 2017, 9:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice post. kindly check out my post
https://steemit.com/money/@muhammadhassan/never-depend-on-a-single-income-invest-wisely-live-well
THanks

@znaffe | June 24, 2017, 10:06 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you for this breakdown. It's nice to have someone do the intense googling for you :D

EOS seems like a really cool project and it will be very interesting to follow this over the 341 day ICO.

@lebelienk | June 24, 2017, 10:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Eos seems to me to not undertaking a vital area when it comes to adoption. I think of Eos as more of a Operating system for block chain applications like windows wasn't for the internet in the 90s.

@reyes907 | June 24, 2017, 10:11 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you

@penny-lane | June 24, 2017, 10:15 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks! I really needed this post!

@henryking | June 24, 2017, 10:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great job, very good post!

@tylerdurden000 | June 24, 2017, 10:27 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

damn dude...this is thorough, good work!

@kingzeus | June 24, 2017, 10:34 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hi Trogdor pretty insightful and lengthy, the future is in the hands of those who stay ahead when it comes to knowledge and those who make the necessary sacrifices to provide insight through posts like these, a lot of commendable research on your end. Looking forward to more posts from you. Thanks again.

@steppingout23 | June 24, 2017, 10:39 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I agree. I think that both Ethereum and Eos will grab market share and do well respectively. Ethereum will always be a brand name in the eyes of the masses . EOS will take time for name to become household name, although it has superior tech. in scalability and minimal transfer fees. Exciting times in Crypto World.

@steemit1234 | June 24, 2017, 11:18 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

Great post! Thank you for info.Thank you mu friend @trogdor

@jamie-smith | June 24, 2017, 11:57 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

I'm glad that a book and a post like these ones actually exist because dummies like me really wanna know more about this kinda stuff. Thanks for a great post! I will follow you and your posts!

@thegame68 | June 25, 2017, 12:38 a.m. | Votes: 4 | [ VOTE ]

These lines I really like, this is a really wonderful post and a must appreciate poat upvote feom me As a fun piece of history, a cryptographer named Nick Szabo realized in 1994 that a decentralized ledger system could be used to execute smart contracts (also called self-executing contracts). Mr. Szabo actually coined the phrase "smart contracts" with the goal of incorporating contract law practices into the design of electronic commerce protocols operating between strangers across the internet

@simnrodrguez | June 25, 2017, 1:07 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

@trogdor Thank you very much for the information you shared!
I'm starting at Steemit and knowing the publications and users
Greetings from Venezuela!

@htliao | June 25, 2017, 1:32 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Great information, very detailed comparison. Thanks for sharing.

@danielroolz | June 25, 2017, 2:12 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice post

@kluchko | June 25, 2017, 2:54 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good summary of the two competitors. I shared your article on LinkedIn.

@honeysyd | June 25, 2017, 3:34 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @trogdor!

Thank you so much for valuable information. I understand more of EOS from your posting.

I have a serious concern about EOS. As in "EOS Toke Purse Agreement", EOS tokens have no purpose and uses (please see Clause 1.4 and 7.1 in the following link).

https://eos.io/purchaseagreement/EOS%20Token%20Purchase%20Agreement%20-%20June%2022,%202017.pdf

This is again expressively stated in FAQ in the EOS website as well (https://eos.io/faq.html).

In my opinion, this contradicts the EOS' concept of network ownership (while EOS is a rental model).

Would you please help with this? Is really EOS tokens nothing usable in the network?

@neo12 | June 25, 2017, 4:34 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Lot of text. But simple to read and understand. Very well written.

@moneymaster | June 25, 2017, 5:17 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

thats a huge post boy
but thank you for the infos giving

have a good day Steem on

@hawthelegend | June 25, 2017, 5:24 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks sir! This post is really informative. Now i see the differences between both..

@gregory-skahan | June 25, 2017, 6:03 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@gregory-skahan/ethereum

@rolandk | June 25, 2017, 7:01 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I really don't understand how smart contracts can work in EOS. Their state is not validated by consensus. So they can cheat all the time.

@gdreyer | June 25, 2017, 7:12 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Excellent post! You seem to understand crypto currencies / platforms really well. How long have you been studying it for?

@peterchen145 | June 25, 2017, 7:17 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

can I translate to Chinese?

@dwongch | June 25, 2017, 8:37 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for the insight. Really good post man!

@life-dailydose | June 25, 2017, 9:21 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Quite a informative post @trogdor!!! Followed you for more! Thanks.

@terrorpheut | June 25, 2017, 11:12 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Oh this looks completely easy like a Chupa Chup.. Oh Sorry not realy ;D

@steemmanju | June 25, 2017, 11:52 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

good information

@the.dajboz | June 25, 2017, 12:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great blog! Check out my new post @the.dajboz follow me! :)

@mahisnair | June 25, 2017, 12:57 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

nice article for anybody who needs a head start on the EOS

@rlamasb | June 25, 2017, 2:04 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@peterchen145 | June 25, 2017, 2:32 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

great job! and I have a question ,in your article you said "I am in no way discounting sharding as a viable approach to successfully scale the Ethereum network, and it is likely that it will be successfully implemented to achieve reasonable gains in scalability."well, you are in no way discounting sharding.what do you mean in no way discounting?you just said that sharding tech will increase the complexity and lower the security. So I don't understand the sentence quoted above .

@crypto-p | June 25, 2017, 2:43 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you!

@mandagoi | June 25, 2017, 4:14 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for everything. EOS will be the new ethereum!

@steemit-korea | June 25, 2017, 5:35 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

It was too much help.Thank you very much.

I'm folloing you!

@eutectico | June 25, 2017, 6:03 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hello @trogdor!
Very good article, has given me better clarity between EOS and Ethereum ...

@meisi51 | June 25, 2017, 10:13 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Wow.. This is some serious work you have put in here dude.
I've still not quite understood ethereum.
Thanks for the post!!

@aleph | June 26, 2017, 12:33 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

great post :)

@dextrian | June 26, 2017, 3:36 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

what i really wanna see in EOS are th "EOS APP" , programs running on the EOS system... them... calculate the cost vs tradicional cloud computing (ibm, microsoft, amazon, etc.) ... if EOS gets the job done, with a lower price... man... that will be a Game Changer.
Imagine... nodejs , native in EOS... cheap, fast, reliable...

@bgping | June 26, 2017, 4:14 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

i like your post very much.i agree with you~!

@luxman | June 26, 2017, 1:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Nice

@redtravels | June 26, 2017, 1:34 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Make this dummies comment great again!

@ajain | June 26, 2017, 1:45 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Wow, what a fantastic post. Thank you for simplifying the whole concept.

Upvoted, resteemed and following you now.

@salena | June 26, 2017, 1:58 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

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@jzamora13 | June 26, 2017, 2:12 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

A bit biased but well explained. I thank you for this. Everytime I log onto Steemit I learn more and more from people like you. Keep up the great work!

@lenn | June 26, 2017, 3:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You may want to read this before investing https://steemit.com/eos/@lenn/consider-waiting-to-invest-in-eos-ico

@bayusoe | June 26, 2017, 10:23 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

A really great comparative analysis! It helped me understand a few concepts I was unsure of. Re-steemed :)

@cryptokom | June 26, 2017, 10:30 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

EOS ICO (how to participate in the EOS Token distribution)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXYCB5OBlz8

@kozak | June 26, 2017, 10:37 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

About Ethereum: going to bed while I can stay optimistic....

http://images.clipartpanda.com/going-to-bed-clipart-63663_going_bed_md.gif

@merlin473 | June 26, 2017, 11:24 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Haha, nice explanation! =))

@aker4444 | June 27, 2017, 12:34 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I love it @trogdor Can i Traslated to Spanish and publish it? THANKS

@trogdor | June 27, 2017, 1:25 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Sure, just please provide a link to the original. Good luck

@aker4444 | June 27, 2017, 7:45 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Of course I will give you credit for that hard work.. THANKS

@nekgate | June 27, 2017, 5:48 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Wow. Thanks for the information.

@chamviet | June 27, 2017, 7:29 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

You should a posting about EOS vs TezOS :)

@cryptomania1 | June 27, 2017, 1:44 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Looks like EOS stands for Ethereum on Steroids!

@georgemosomi | June 27, 2017, 3:03 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Very informative. Thank you. I am new on Steemit and can't quite figure out how to upvote (add currency?) to your post. Sigh. I will learn :)

@skypal | June 27, 2017, 5:55 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Very helpful and good writing! A rare combination.

@firepower | June 27, 2017, 8:11 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Fantastic post!

@gikitiki | June 27, 2017, 8:53 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

A diversified portfolio will have both EOS and ETH in it.

They are both going to the moon!!!

@cyntechtic | June 27, 2017, 9:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

cool

@cryptocannon | June 28, 2017, 2:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

So will EOS have an ecosystem like steemit?

@jaymacvapes | June 28, 2017, 5:04 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great post. I started building my mining rig yesterday - all hardware in, except the risers.

@belerophon | June 28, 2017, 5:59 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Coindesk called EOS a ponzi scheme last weekend. We should do something about it.
https://steemit.com/eos/@belerophon/coindesk-libels-dan-larimer

@kozak | June 28, 2017, 7:15 p.m. | Votes: 7 | [ VOTE ]

let's go over a few (very) important things coming in the near future for Ethereum.

Metropolis (Ethereum 3.0) - This upgrade is slated for Aug/Sept and will be the first upgrade since Homestead (Ethereum 2.0) from early last year and for reference Frontier (Ethereum 1.0). Metropolis will bring with it some huge upgrades.

Raiden - Currently Ethereum can process a max of 15 transactions per second, Bitcoin can do about 7. This is nowhere near what Visa does at 40k/tx per second. You've heard of Bitcoins lightening network which will enable Bitcoin to do infinite tx/sec? Well Raiden enables the exact same thing on Ethereum by creating what are called "Payment Channels". Not gonna go into too much detail but it's like Bob and Carol agree to put a $100 deposit into an account and write notes saying one or the other owes $x amount, then on a predetermined day one of you squares up the account by making one large transaction on the Ethereum blockchain.

ZN-Snarks - You know how your friends tell you Ethereum isn't anonymous like Monero or ZCash? Well ZK-Snarks will enable you to selectively make transactions public or private. It's the same standard used for ZCash but implemented on the protocol level on top of Ethereum. This is a big part of Enterprise Ethereum Alliances road map which is why JP Morgan is working with ZCash to implement it into Quorum (JP Morgan private Ethereum Chain) as well. Ethereum is basically taking all the best features from other coins and implementing them.

Ice Age - Currently, there are ~93 Million ETH circulating with 5 ETH created every 15 seconds (15% annual inflation) during the last upgrade (Frontier) there was an "Ice Age" coded into Ethereum which would slow down the creation of ETH on a curve that would eventually freeze up Ethereum. The reason for this was to force the developers to finish up Metropolis before the network froze up. One side effect of the ice age is that the creation of ETH slows down thus reducing the rate of inflation but also increasing the transaction time. We're beginning to see the first effects of it and by August it'll be 5 ETH created every ~30 seconds.

Casper - Shortly after Metropolis, Ethereum will release the actual figures for Casper as well as the first of 5 phases which will move Ethereum from PoW (Proof of Work) using mining rigs and computers to approve transactions to PoS (Proof of Stake). What happens with PoS is instead of miners running all the time, you will have people holding ETH "Stake" their ETH and basically lock their ETH up in a smart contract while running software on their internet connected computer. In return for locking their ETH up, they will earn interest on it at an undermined rate (figures Vitalik has floated around varies from 6-12% annually). Not everyone will be able to stake, Vitalik has stated that the inflation rate of ETH will drop from 15% currently down to 0-2%. With basic supply and demand math you should be able to figure out what that means for the price.

Casper is a major reason people are stocking up on ETH. Imagine if in 1 year you could lock up 1000 ETH and earn 120 ETH per year? If the price is $1000/ETH you're talking USD $120k annual without selling any of your original ETH.
Edit: some typos, was writing on the treadmill

@trogdor | June 28, 2017, 10:20 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Awesome. Amazing summary of features and upcoming landmarks. I am one of the idiots that got really excited about Ethereum when it was around $8 and talking about it to friends amd just never invested. Kicking myself hard at this point. I've been waiting for a big correction to maybe put 50% of my BTC in ETH, but it just keeps surging. Not sure what I'll do at this point, probably miss the boat as usual. Think it's too late to jump on the ETH train, or are we going north of $1000+ for sure? Haha wish I had a crystal ball... Also, I thought Vitalik was really pushing sharding vs lightning channels?

@kozak | June 29, 2017, 7:41 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

I'm out for the moment. Believe in ETH long term. Look at the one month chart. It's a declining trend since the 12th of June or thereabouts. Now it may be in a turnaround phase. However if it dives, the downward trend continues.

I'm in this long term. I'm keeping plenty of cash to the side for the moment because there is crazy volatility in cryptoland. Furthermore the problems (seemingly related to ICOs) of recent times don't help. I was sold on ETH because of it's promise of scaling well. However we have seen that it is not without its own issues. I'm sitting on the fence for the moment. Also IOTA looks seriously promising...

I'll finish by saying I think both ETH and IOTA have a future. Not so sure about bitcoin...

We live in interesting times...

@ashaman | June 30, 2017, 3:52 a.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

It's declining in part because of all the massive ICOs. Companies that did ICOs cashing out is suppressing the price.

@transisto | June 29, 2017, 7:20 p.m. | Votes: 2 | [ VOTE ]

What's the incentive for ETH stake producers to increase the resources their node make available to the network ? Is holding 1000 ETH in itself mean anything in terms of keeping up low latency with very high number of transactions, resilience and large redundant storage ?

@jamesray | July 4, 2017, 11:33 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Still, it seems that not all of the advantages of EOS have been addressed in the Ethereum roadmap.

@texasvsjohnson | Oct. 5, 2017, 1:16 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Ethereum wont make it. And you wont make 120k year annually. When all these new eco systems start coming out that make it more user friendly then Ethereum, Ethereum will be an obsolete product. Bitcoin is an obsolete product. The reason prices are so high is from chinese investors that don't have a clue of what is going on. 90% of the crypto market is from chinese investors and they are not experienced with investing. They over inflated the prices and the prices will come crashing down. These prices are not realistic. They did the same thing with their stock market. All these smart hedge fund managers were investing heavily into china as I shook my head that its not realistic market.

What makes ecosystem work and take on mass adoption is ease of use. Its hard to even do a transaction with ethereum. You have to sign on to your wallet make sure the long address is right, the erc20 token is the right one and then make sure your gas costs are right before you send out your crypto currency to whatever address. That is not taking on mass adoption. People want it to be like a credit card. Swipe and your done. Or put in your credit card number click send and done. Not do 3 or 4 steps and try make sure everything is right. If you think that will work your being delusional. Ethereum is to slow, and when they do updates its never smooth. They always run into tons of problems because try to push stuff out to fast. Even some of their own community complained about doing things to fast.

One day their will be a eco system that is user friendly, can update the network smoothly and will take on mass adoption. Don't know what it will be but all these new cryptos coming out are new and improved from what Ethereum is. More and more will come out. But all ethereum and bitcoin did was get the train going. Its like the first cell phone came out. Then apple and samsung make smart phones and take over the market. Ethereum and bitcoin are like the first cell phones out. Cheap, put on market to fast and not well made.

Anyone invested in cryptos at these over inflated prices will be broke in a few years. I seen this over and over again. Warned people over and over again to stay out of over inflated markets from novice investors over buying in the market. They learn the hard way. Patience is key and waiting for that one product that is putting out a quality product. I don't see one on crypto space yet. I remember this old man told me I was crazy to think oil can ever free fall. I said it will. He said but oil used in everything even tires and we will run out and it something world has to have. I told him don't ever fall for a sale pitch that technology over time will replace everything. He lost tons of money. I seen people argue same thing about housing and gold. Its just novice investing. . Always check the background of the people who make the coin not their idea. Then look at the idea and see how they handle ddos attacks, how they handle new software updates, how they deal with tech problems and always study their competition and compare products. Technology is so fast anything can be replaced at any time. No coin has stood out to me yet. The only thing that has impressed me so far is actually steemit.

@wallysalman | Jan. 5, 2018, 3:31 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Actually, I think the Chinese investors know what they are doing. They'll relocate their funds once Tencent comes out with their own currency that will absorb wechat and alipay.

@baker777 | Jan. 5, 2018, 4:44 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

So glad i never listened to you

@tzs | June 30, 2017, 4:39 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Who is going to run their computers for EOS? What's the benefit of contributing to the network as there's no mining?

@exan | July 1, 2017, 8:50 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemitimages.com/60x60/https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2012/04/16/12/26/chart-35773_1280.png

Congratulations @trogdor

You took 3 place in my Top 100 of posts

@snoweye | July 3, 2017, 12:28 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Had to go brew a strong coffee just to read this.

Thanks for the info, i just got some from an exchange "bitfinex"

Lets get wealthy.

@jamesray | July 4, 2017, 11:29 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I'm trying to figure out how to Resteem this post (I remember reading that it can be done) but it isn't clear from the UI.

@tipolj | July 5, 2017, 8:28 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

thanks for posting , up voted . I SUPPORT YOU

@tradz | July 6, 2017, 2:22 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great P0st
Followed/Upvoted ;)

@chickenpie | July 8, 2017, 10:41 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

@trogdor This article was so great, I signed up on Steem so I could upvote it! (This is the first comment from my Steemit account!) Thanks for your detailed analysis!

@xiaoyang | July 9, 2017, 1:19 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

this post is so good that makes me have a more deep comprehension about EOS

@philloverton | July 10, 2017, 11:24 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

great post

@maxtill94 | July 12, 2017, 2:52 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

NEVERDIE ICO is LIVE.
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@novo | July 17, 2017, 5:10 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Whooow trogdor, thank you!! Upvoted and Followed :)

@crowe | July 20, 2017, 11 p.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Trogdor. I want to thank you for the upvotes on many of my posts. That was very nice of you indeed. very much appreciate that. I am following your blog. cheers.

@dinar | July 26, 2017, 5:26 p.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

Wow 😳 interesting post!!

@sky77 | Aug. 1, 2017, 6:30 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This post is an excellent white paper on EOS.

@flatrider | Aug. 6, 2017, 10:38 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

This is what I've been looking for and I cannot wait for EOS to launch! Thanks @trogdor, following.

@didjadream | Aug. 9, 2017, 11:58 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Great post , very informative and described complexity in a way that is easily understood. I found this post very useful. Thank you.

@trogdor | Aug. 9, 2017, 1:07 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks for reading!

@akkha | Sept. 3, 2017, 11 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Wow ! Interesting post !!
Helped me to understand about these two things clearly .
Great information @trogdor !
Thank you so much for your contribution .
👍👍👍

@thename | Sept. 6, 2017, 2:22 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Best article I read about the subject. Great work. Upvoted and I would resteem, but once again there is no resteem button... Don't know why.

@nueza | Sept. 6, 2017, 5:32 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thank you for this detailed comparison!

@shihu4937 | Sept. 20, 2017, 6:35 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Good article. EOS seems like a good crypoto, however its release mechanism, 2 million new tokens everyday for one years since its release date would make its prices keep dropping probably for at quite long time. I will consider to invest when the price is low !

@ashvecchio | Nov. 10, 2017, 1:19 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

How do you feel about EOS today? Plasma and the Raiden network and Casper seem ready to go the ethereum. I don't own any ethereum. Just curious.

@bleury | Nov. 21, 2017, 1:26 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

I'm interested in EOS so I reached here from surfing Internet. Thanks for cool posting.
I have a question about chapter 6. As far as I understand, GAS helps to avoid infinite loop call by a heavy miner. If EOS allows certain amount of bandwidth by their stake always, doesn't it cause a tipping effect?

@aquahelix | Dec. 11, 2017, 4:25 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Thanks so much for this post. Really informative 👍🏻👍🏻

@mountain-wind | Dec. 14, 2017, 2:23 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Great and useful article article, thanks!

@tateshep | Dec. 19, 2017, 5 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Very enlightening article!

@novusabeo | Dec. 24, 2017, 10:19 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@novusabeo/why-ethereum-has-sold-out-to-corporations

@amata | Dec. 25, 2017, 3:30 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

With that said the price is bound to go up too.

@kjnk | Feb. 4, 2018, 6:47 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

This was an awesome overview. It's well written and very informative. Thanks.

@ivrmakers | Feb. 14, 2018, 8:03 a.m. | Votes: 3 | [ VOTE ]

If someone could answer.. I opened metamask & added eos token in it.. can now I transfer my EOS on an exchange to this metamask address? Will I receive any airdrops in future for EOS?

@dive-into-crypto | March 10, 2018, 2:11 p.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

super informative!

@jeffzheng | May 25, 2018, 2:37 a.m. | Votes: 1 | [ VOTE ]

Hi @trogdor,
Thanks for the comprehensive comparison.
I'm choosing between EOSIO and Ethereum for my company's dApps development and this post has convincing points which leads me to favor EOSIO than Ethereum in terms of scalability and TPS.

Given that EOS mainnet is going to launch next week, I'm pretty excited to start development of smart contract on EOS blockchain.

@rtjv90 | June 8, 2018, 11:16 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

bookmarked :) thanks this is helpful

@oudekaas | June 19, 2018, 9:25 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Hi trogdor, great post, I am wondering if you would be interested in writing benchmarks like you sort of did here.
I created https://cryptoowls.com it is a new ranking site, that ranks crypto using benchmarks. Allowing a direct comparison between crypto assets.

I have only just finished it so would love to hear what you think?

The benchmarks are posted on the steemit blockchain so that you may be rewarded for your efforts.

@pen.pursuit | June 28, 2018, 1:04 a.m. | Votes: 0 | [ VOTE ]

Ethereum currently processes 5 tx/s. 6 would be it's current optimization capacity. Great post!

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