Well, i have been in the same shoes and recently, my downvoters came back. You have pointed out, hive is a decentralized system, i hope yo see the freedom of speech that we have.

Lets make it more welcoming, when anyone defaults or wrongs, they can be corrected in love, not by insults or by being belittled.

Your post made my day

> my downvoters came back.

I can stay around if you want :D

You don't have to, i have noted that your downvote was a means to correct me and i have learnt from that. I don't even post up to four times a week now.

You are a good person, i was downvoted by another that i don't know some days ago. That's what i was addressing.

🙏🙏🙏

Oh my George!!

As long as downvotes exists, we are all venerable to get downvoted and I know that would hurt.

I don't know what's the solution for this. If those whales or communities are reasonable, you can reason with them but if they are not, they just do that one downvote stoke...ouch!!

I think whales have power you know...and in one way project.hope has supported new comers who write good content to get visibility and votes they deserve.

And see you are not buying the votes na...your donating it out of your writing.

I am sorry dear, it's unfortunate.

Just can you correct that project home to project hope or is there really a community called project.hope.

Well...I guess if you have support of group of people and community who can support you with upvotes to counter those painful downvotes, it's some consolation, maybe.

I corrected already Project Home is now Project Hope...

And no i dont want to counter, i want them to site down and face eachother and not treat us like kids and handle us like they do...

Saying that beneficiaries are "too high" does not make any sense. It is a feature that is there to be used and all users consent to use the decentralized platform as they fit. I don't know much about your past history. I can't judge about those without spending hours digging into old articles. But what I can say is that arbitrary claims about using beneficiaries are simply wrong.

These HiverWatchers have done some good work to tackle problems such as plagiarism and scams on blockchain. They should stick to them instead of driving real communities and content producers away based on arbitrary reasons.

The issue here seems to be bid-botting via beneficiaries.

Beneficiary uses proceeds to lease HP and uses that HP to proportionally upvote those who set beneficiaries.

When i got to know about hive i've created lots of interesting articles that barely got support or upvotes i was skeptic about credibility of the platform, how low content post would get big upvotes and payout joining project.hope community actually made my stay on hive fun, i spend my previous time and energy to write good content that are plagiarized free so as to avoid any sort of downvotes, i made all my beneficiary support to the community out of freewill and not as act of vote selling.

> i've created lots of interesting articles

No, they are not interesting.

Thanks for not finding them interesting, i'm sure are!

If you disagree, mention me on a particular post you want me to give you feed back on.

Hey i'm not here to compete with anyone just being myself and doing my best.
To deliver the best i can to my audience, if none of my content interest you you are free to drop some comments i'm always open to learn from anyone i come across life is simple and short we don't have all the time/room for endless arguments.
I'm only five months old here from your profile you've been around since 2018 that's interesting, i know little here compare to you.
Best regards.

I'm only asking you to tag me on a post of yours you think is interesting if you disagree. How else would I give the appropriate feedback? Now if you are just going to give me a lip service about being open to learn then shy away from the learning session when presented, don't bother with the facade.

Sure i get your point here is one i just posted not quite long https://hive.blog/hive-175254/@mccoy02/understanding-litecoin-an-improved-version-of-bitcoin

Sure will check this out later.

Sure will check this later

Sure thanks

Wasn't interesting. Just a spun article.

I scanned it hours ago and got the same impression but will use more time to sit on it and give detail on what areas he can improve on. Still at work~

I remember when I started on hive @josevas217 guided me and delegated me part of his voting power so I could grow now that I find my place in a community and want to support by delegating part of my earnings "they give me negative votes", that's censorship, he uses power against small accounts of content creators to force us not to support a community, from my point of view I don't see it fair at all.

most of us are careful not to break the rules of this platform and I believe that delegating earnings is not a fault, your actions are based on assumptions, it is up to me to decide which user or community I delegate my earnings to, no one is forcing me.

you can try to buy my support in exchange for votes and you will see that my answer is "NO" because my decisions are based on my principles and these are not negotiable, on the other hand if you require my help for a good cause you will see that you have my support, it is as simple as that.

That's all fine and dandy, but there's no need to tag 900+ people to get your point across.

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Examples of sensationalism:

> In fact, their only job was to embarrass me in front of my readers.

> just because I dared to confront and ask questions.

> exactly the same way our controlling teachers would do in less privileged parts of the world!

Much of this post reads like propaganda. It's pinned to the top of the PH community page. Only those benefitting from this scheme of robbing its members under the guise of 'good' have the ability to pin a post.

All they want is your money. All you have to do is say no. Then they can 'curate' and give you the full value of what they think your content is worth. Otherwise you're getting ripped off. There's no need to hand over your money to these group leader accounts. They're taking advantage of you. Many members are in on the scheme, posing as innocent members of the community. This community is much like a cult. Don't waste your time here. It's all smoke and mirrors.

This post appears to have been produced by the leader of the community himself.

I dare to confront and ask questions. So now what? Help yourselves.

https://blog.usejournal.com/10-signs-youre-probably-in-a-cult-1921eb5a3857

thanks for your reply.
What you see as sensationalism is the true feeling one gets when he/she is discredited and embarrassed in front of everyone for something they didn't do. However, I do appreciate your time in reading this post. I have no part in the so-called propaganda, and I appreciate my post being pinned, even if it serves one's purpose but let me assure you, this is purely my own experience on the hive. My first encounter (mentioned in this post as First Time) happened when I was not part of PH, and my second encounter (Second Time) is also not about PH.

I started here with NOTHING and didn't know anyone, years ago. I produced my own brand of content, almost daily, for a very long time. Not once did I ever ask for support. People simply enjoyed what I do. No tricks, no gimmicks, nothing but that long list of posts you see in my blog and all those comments from actual people offering organic support.

My first downvotes came from the largest account in all the land. Why? I don't know. But I assume it was because I wrote a comedy piece about the F-word, and there was about ninety of them in that post. At first I was put off but instead I channeled that energy into doing even more stupid things. When there's a crash, people stop and stare, so instead of being a baby, I used the attention to my benefit. It was a blessing in disguise.

There was a time I saw what I'd consider to be unnecessary downvotes handed out to artists and entertainers on the trending page. So instead of pouting and acting like a victim, since my content was blindly targeted as well, I simply wrote a post calling them out. AND WOW did that ever piss that guy off, but who cares! So he started to act like a bully, downvoting everything I did. So what I do? I wrote a post about bullies and how soft and sensitive they are. I took some flak for a few days but eventually, it went away.

Right now this PH community is accusing others of being hateful, because PH decided to get greedy and got called out on it. Do you see me shedding tears and acting like a victim? No. I push forward, without handing out any downvotes (yet), to tell you people you're getting ripped off and taken advantage of. I could give you several more examples of the times I've put my ass on the line to call out bullshit when I see it here.

We worked hard and pushed for a more fair and balanced system. And PH wants to take that away.

NOPE. Not happening. PH thrives on weakness and victimhood. You're the perfect prey. They'll make you feel like you're nothing without them.

> the true feeling one gets when he/she is discredited and embarrassed in front of everyone for something they didn't do.

But it's perfectly fine for PH to smear Hive and its members for no reason? NO. It isn't. The place isn't perfect but nobody here with a brain expects perfection.

I've been downvoted over some petty shit in my day. Yet I still managed to make all that money in my wallet and then some, all while my integrity remained intact. So why can't a big community like PH do the same? You folks are paying a coward to hide away, and he props you up to make you look like a pussy or in your words:

> I being an obedient small fish

You people are bigger and better than this. PH is nothing without you. You're in control and you're more than welcome on Hive, but this shady shit PH is doing has got to go. They can support you just as easily, the honest way, and still earn fair curation rewards, like the rest of us. There's no need for you folks to be taking a pay cut just because some guy wants to pretend to be God.

Hello Project HOPE community.

Project HOPE has only been voting on posts that set their ph-fund account as a beneficiary. This is a vote-selling/self-voting scheme that attempts to use the members of the community as a shield from downvotes. Unfortunately, removing the economic incentive of this scheme has to be done with downvotes.

I've been participating in countering the scheme as a Hive stakeholder. With an exception or two for a post about a scam, and plagiarism, my hope is that these posts still receive some payout. The goal is to make the Project HOPE/Tipu voting scheme less profitable than curating posts without beneficiary set 50% to @ph-fund.

Voting on Hive helps your stake grow with curation rewards. That's how it is designed. But voting on posts because they set you as a beneficiary is vote-selling. That is more like a cancerous growth. That is why some Hive stakeholders including myself have taken action to stop the scheme.

Lol not your keys, not your crypto.

There isn't even a smart contract enforcing what these "leaders" do. Just words. No binding contracts.

You guys can keep going like everyone who believed @ned until he pulls the rug and sell the so-called "community fund" over the counter, not even allowing for price movement on the open market, which could have at least benefited those who invested.

My grandmother used to say: 你要他們的利, 他們要你的本.

Basically, it means "you want their interest, but they want your capital".

Don't trade in your inheritance for a mess of pottage.

Hey buddy,
No hard feeling when downvote comes in just like when Upvote comes. In one way there are articles readers will like and while others will not, It's all about personality and community at large.
I love your open heart to relay this message out but all i will say is, Hive has a lot of community that gives support without looking at what they will get back all they want is to give hope to the hopeless and encourage your time spent to create something. Great to see PH part of the community given support,.

HiverWatchers again — why I'm not surprised?

BTW: there has been a 2nd fork from Steem and it's a far less toxic fork:

https://blurtter.com/@vixmemon

Mind your, Blurter only forked your wallet and not your postings.

Each person has the right to express themselves however they want and as they wish, especially if they do so respectfully.
I make a living with my content, and I understand how you feel because I am also going through the situation of receiving downvotes. And I want to say that with each of these actions that try to discredit me, my desire to continue writing and sharing my ideas increases.

Nobody is going to take that right away from me.

It is my decision who I put as a beneficiary, as well as what content I want to share, and I find it unpleasant that for publishing on dbuzz, for belonging to a community or choosing a niche, I will be blacklisted or suffer sanctions for it.

I take it as a teenage tantrum because true entrepreneurs would make better decisions.

Keep going and keep writing, because believe me, in my vision, I recognize the quality and I count on those who do a good job in making Hive a pleasant place and attracting great new users.

> I take it as a teenage tantrum

Why the insults? You, or, your post, was not being downvoted. The reward farm scheme now posing as a charity is what's getting downvoted. Has nothing to do with you or any member of PH, personally. Those are the facts.

The only ones recommending you stop talking are the founders of PH, according to their 'official statement'.

I'll never be able to understand why so many PH members, like yourself just now, can't communicate without adding in sensationalism and disinformation.

> Why the insults? You, or, your post, was not being downvoted

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By the way that downvote was just given to my most recent comment in this conversation, so you are refuting yourself.

If you don't feel identified, you shouldn't be offended.

And there is the proof that refutes what you say...

I receive automated downvotes and in my most recent publication, the same thing happens.

So it is clear that you do not know what is happening.

And as you can see, this comment also received downvotes. And spaminnator is in charge of Hivewatchers as far as I know ...

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I never said I was offended. I simply asked why you'd choose to use insults.

I was talking about the PH beneficiary debacle. Not your own little issue where someone automatically downvotes you for something you probably did in the past and decided against settling the dispute. That's my guess anyway. Seen that happen before. It's usually no big deal. Were you caught plagiarizing or something like that?

> Were you caught plagiarizing or something like that?

I have never plagiarized. And I don't really know the reason why that happens, it's not really important. I suppose it must be for publishing a couple of weeks ago on dbuzz because I did not know the platform and I understood that it works in the style of Twitter, and I assume that from there that may happen with spaminnator.

Regarding downvotes, I have received them in my most recent post. If you like, come to my profile and check because there are downvotes of OCD and other stakeholders.

So as you can see, I am not a sensationalist, I just speak with events that occurred and may continue to occur. I hope that you will take into consideration the work of users who really do not have to see in this conflict and we do not want to take part in it either.

But if it is a question of claiming something unfair, then, of course, we must notify it so that you can conciliate about it.

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Okay so you said you're getting downvoted, and that's not cool, because you do this for a living. You mentioned the automatic downvotes just now that we can see on your comments, but no rewards are deducted when those come in, nor do they silence your views or ideas. I'm reading you just fine. If you don't know why they're there, you should take it upon yourself to find out.

And what you just mentioned here with the downvotes from OCD and others is what I explained initially. You, nor your post or the content is what's being downvoted in that case. It's the reward farm now posing as a charity that's getting downvoted. Has nothing to do with you, personally.

> You, nor your post or the content is what's being downvoted in that case. It's the reward farm now posing as a charity that's getting downvoted. Has nothing to do with you, personally.

The point is very clear, but everyone decides to place the beneficiary that one wishes.

In my opinion, it would be better to find a solution that does not harm users who participate in a community or place a particular beneficiary. And in any case, the most objective thing would be to talk with the person responsible, trying to minimize the collateral damage that others are suffering.

And it is very personal,

Because they are messing with the money that I need to earn a living weekly [which means that thanks to this problem I am no longer receiving money that I have destined for food, payment of services, and other things, so it is something very personal against me. They are messing with my money], since I am ceasing to receive it, for a situation for which I am not responsible, this is a matter between the accuser and the accused, the rest of us shouldn't suffer the consequences, don't you think it's @nonameslefttouse?

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Have a look around. Notice there are several hundred and at some point thousands earning. Take a look at your choices. Take a look at theirs. Many are in the same boat as you, except they're making independent and productive choices for themselves. Decentralization means: no one single point of failure. Since PH the organization is centralized, their one poor decision is that single point of failure. Growing a community is much like growing an orchard. The posts are fertilizer. PH wants to fertilize one tree, and let the rest die. But if PH was decentralized, then all accounts get to grow, and their votes are like fruit that feed the other members. 1000000 HP in one account yields the same amount of fruit as 100 accounts with 10000 HP. But if one tree dies, there are still 99 more. In one comment you're talking about being entrepreneurs. The decision to depend solely on 1 account or 1 leader is what got everyone in this mess. The people in the mess are free to remove themselves from the mess. Holding your earnings and allowing your account to grow is not selfish when those votes can then be used to support the community. PH members should hold the PH community money, not PH the organization. Look at my case. If one decides to no longer support my work, I'll be okay, and maybe at some point someone else will want to support my work. It's all organic. No strings attached. And if I wanted to support a legitimate charity, I have money in my wallet to do so. You should be seeing red flags when an organization calls itself a charity, but the one providing majority support to the beneficiary in the form of votes is also the beneficiary. A real charity does not pay itself. That could be considered a scam, or shady. So because of that, it gets downvoted. The reward pool is a shared resource. All Hive members are under no obligation to support this supposed charity. The money is not yours until its in the wallet. That rule is the same for everyone. Please pardon this wall of text. Was in a rush.

> PH wants to fertilize one tree and let the rest die

It is not like that, in fact, they have taken care of renting with the funds of thecommunity HP via dlease to support users within the community and grow the accounts. This is one way to encourage account and Hive growth.

> The decision to depend solely on 1 account or 1 leader is what got everyone in this mess

In this I agree with you, I see that it is a mistake, because the most logical thing is to diversify.

> Look at my case. If one decides to no longer support my work, I'll be okay, and maybe at some point, someone else will want to support my work. It's all organic. No strings attached.

Because surely you invested, and now with 140k HP you can be more than calm hahaha.

And I plan to do the same in a couple of years when I accumulate about $ 1000 or more. I see the investment here at Hive. And I applaud it because I agree that it is one of the smartest things to do. Just depending on yourself, even if it sounds selfish, but here we are talking about business, and it works this way.

> No strings attached. And if I wanted to support a legitimate charity, I have money in my wallet to do so. You should be seeing red flags when an organization calls itself a charity, but the one providing majority support to the beneficiary in the form of votes is also the beneficiary. A real charity does not pay itself. That could be considered a scam, or shady.

And I suppose this explains the point or suspicion of you the stakeholders. And you have a good basis for it without a doubt.

But at the same time it should be given a space for doubt and an opportunity to show that things can be reasonable and work in another way and that they will make Hive grow as they are doing, because all this noise that is being created With this disaster, it only attracts more attention and drives trending topics between both parties involved in this episode.

> Please pardon this wall of text. Was in a rush.

No problem, I really appreciate that you are taking the time to talk for a while with the user that you were a long time ago when you were a little fish like me [trying to make you remember those times when you were not influential I guess].
What you do is very positive and helps a lot for the image of Hive and the stakeholders. I wish other people had the objectivity of talking to users for a while in a neutral and objective setting, without having to kill each other, exposing and sharing their points of view, because that is what builds a great community.

It also happens that many users fear talking with those who have power, for fear of being rejected or receiving hostility, and I assure you that on many occasions that happens.

Thank you for your feedback, I consider this talk very important and I hope that other users take it as an example so that they understand that you can exchange ideas without having to be hostile.

And always available to exchange ideas with you, Mr. Whale.

For my part I enjoy it.

I tried my best to press for answers from PH management and was told to either look at someone else who they thought was doing bad things, or I was handed insults. Not one question was answered. So, I started looking, and following the money. They're eating bread and giving members the crumbs. So of course I disagree with what's happening. But I've not been handing out downvotes. I prefer to talk. After talking for many days I've concluded, based on the evidence I've seen and the lack of evidence provided, there's nothing pure about this operation. And I think people who need help are being taken advantage of. Members are basically working to pay debts created by poor management. There are plenty more people from troubled nations earning without coming to this group to take a pay cut. This is the first time in my life I've seen workers demand less pay.

> Members are basically working to pay debts

I can testify that I am one of those cases because my income is to pay for services and my daily life. Since I live in Venezuela, and I suppose you must have read about the financial situation and the disaster that ordinary citizens with limited resources trying to overcome. And this is where Hive and large stakeholders have the power to use their influence to help in this situation.

It is a curious and complicated situation, I cannot explain or find logic to many things. There may be many factors involved such as fear of losing income by the community, fear of being labeled a traitor, or maybe other things, I don't know.

What I can say is that it is a case worthy of being analyzed by thinkers and studied by specialists in psychology, because in my opinion there is a lot of that in the whole environment. And I personally am very curious, I suppose you have it too.

I think that only through time is all this going to be clarified, but my biggest concern is that the process of all events lasted, many of us are being harmed in one way or another, and that is a sensitive issue.

What to do to avoid that? Here is a very sensitive question to consider.

No, I meant workers are working to pay the debt of someone else. No their own.

> fear of losing income by the community, fear of being labeled a traitor

That's what I think is happening. This group preys on people in desperate situations and naivety. I say that only based on observations. The management also plays mind games. Anyone on the outside is deemed dishonest. Several times now I've been told the only reason I earn is because I kissed someone's ass. Or I earn because of connections. Or because I'm rich. The reality is, you see those stupid posts I made? People liked those. I started with nothing. Always spoke my mind. I don't play this game where others are on a pedestal and I'm to believe I'm somehow lesser. You're either eye to eye with me or, there is no other option. I don't talk about life much in my posts but there was a time in my life where my only source of income was finding ways to hustle pocket change from passersby. But somehow, when I come to talk in front of this group, I'm labelled a villain by default. When you're on the outside, it's very easy to detect manipulative ways on the inside. That's why I think it acts like a cult. No cult member knows they're in a cult. Every cult member thinks they're nothing and can't succeed without the cult. And my personal conclusions have nothing to do with why PH gets downvoted. That's just how I feel and I'm not stupid. I had a hunch instantly, then looked for answers, and found them.

And to avoid it, stand up for yourselves. Watch how fast they leave you folks behind when it's no longer profitable for them to use you. They can just as easily earn fair curation reward like the rest of us. They don't deserve more than anyone else. We worked hard on Hive to create a more fair system. PH wants to be unfair, so they get downvoted. Simple.

You know who else used to go around demanding a percentage of business profits in a community? Mafia. Gangsters. And they said that was for a good cause, too. It was for 'protection'. You either pay them or they beat your ass.

> The reality is, you see those stupid posts I made? People liked those

But now how you have power is different, because people seek to get your vote and they find everything they do fun, being honest with you that is what happens. I hardly think that that happened to you when you had 200 HP or you weren't recognized in the community, and that is a problem to deal with, because many of the people who are in Hive only look at voting power and making profits, And I'm not saying that this is wrong, but there are also other things that are better, creating bonds, talking with interesting people as we are doing [I'm far from looking for a favor or vote from you, actually I'm very pleased to be able to speak with you about different things and about this problem.

> But somehow, when I come to talk in front of this group, I'm labeled a villain by default.

That sucks and I understand how unpleasant that must make you feel. And I'm really sorry that you have to endure going through that. No one should put up with it and no one should have to be labeled a villain, or something similar, that's something that I despise a lot and don't like.

But I believe that I am the living example that not all are equal, maturity is demonstrated with facts just like you are doing and I truly congratulate you for that. You have to be very focused to be able to have an objective conversation with someone and maintain a pleasant atmosphere.

> We worked hard on Hive to create a more fair system. PH wants to be unfair, so they get downvoted. Simple.

And I grant you the point, I understand perfectly. In that sense, I see that both parties have different points of view. And I am in the middle of both because my income depends on this, and it is a delicate situation for me. But I hope it will not be for long, and it will surely improve even if it is criticized or despised for what I say in these conversations. In this sense I share what you express, I am here for me, for my benefit because it is through my work and content that I earn a living. Otherwise, I was really screwed, and what I can say is that it has been a win to win situation and not a charity because I have made many publications in exchange for being able to pay my bills in a financially destroyed country, and with a personal financial situation disastrous.

Fortunately, I am already coming out of that, diversifying my income and I hope soon not to depend on a single source. So I no longer see myself involved in these dramas, which only bring toxicity and conflicts in my life, causing me to have to participate in something that I don't like! [Speaking of this type of conflict whereby saying something that is not well seen you can end up crucified and goodbye forever to your main source of income]

I appreciate the effort that you have made and that you do to keep things well at Hive, and I understand your views. I wish I wasn't in such a screwed-up situation to be able to better express my views, and you must imagine why, from the financial aspect, because if it weren't for that, I wouldn't mind expressing what I think. But it is not the case because I have to take care of what I do, although I would not be surprised at all if I ended up being labeled a villain or worse, and all simply for being true to what I think and having an opinion.

> You either pay them or they beat your ass.

Sorry, but you made me laugh with this hahaha. And I mean it in a good way because that's how the mafias operate.

And the simple fish like me have to take care of ourselves, it is very sad, but until we grow up to a dolphin or a whale we have no other option.

> But now how you have power is different, because people seek to get your vote

I apologize. That's where I stopped reading. My experience here was the same, regardless of how much was in the wallet. You've also insulted the integrity of all those who enjoy my work and choose to support it for whatever reason.

And that's it. Conversation over. Not interested in the rest.

Well my intention is not to offend you, but to speak to you from reality. A pity that you interpret it that way. But that is what happens, people approach those who have voting power because of their stake and their interest in obtaining profits, that is the reality and for the most part that is what happens.

If you went and said that to everyone who ever left a comment under my posts, you'd get shouted out of the room. If you really think those people are only there in order to get something out of me, maybe your head is screwed on, but it's backwards.

With that attitude of yours you hold so dear, you will always remain on the bottom. And it's your fault, because that's how your brain works. If all you think one has to do to get somewhere around here is kiss ass, that's why you can't get anywhere.

https://peakd.com/life/@nonameslefttouse/ass-kissing-brownnosers-are-useless

You're saying I must have kissed ass to get ahead. You're saying I want my ass kissed. I hate that shit. I'm not offended. You're just a lost cause. Kiss my ass, you get nothing. Insult me, you get nothing.

Now, take your bad attitude, and use it to get ripped off by PH.

Bye!

> You're saying I must have kissed ass to get ahead. You're saying I want my ass kissed. I hate that shit.

That is your interpretation, but not what I have said.

Also, it is the reality, the users look for profits in these platforms [and also there is nothing wrong with wanting to win from those who have a big stake], a win to win relationship.
To think otherwise is to lie to yourself, so the one who has the problem is not me :]

> Now, take your bad attitude, and use it to get ripped off by PH.

I will tell you that I don't really have it, but if I did, I would go on my own, without being asked.

We have different points of view, so there is no need to say more.

You can't speak on behalf of everyone. Only yourself. All you're saying is you're an ass kisser. That's it. You're revealing your one and only strategy, disguising it as advice, all while proof you're wrong is sitting right here, telling you you're being moronic. You started out sounding intelligent. Then you started reading off the PH bottom feeder be a loser forever and blame everyone else for your own misfortunes script. You literally pay your bosses just to kiss their ass. That's how far gone you are. And to top it off, you want people to feel sorry for you. Dude. I can't be around people like you. It's bad for the health.

I do wish you the best of the luck. You'll probably need more than luck though. Go kiss an ass. See if that helps.

I wish you the best too, and regarding kissing butts, I prefer those that are female and if they are Latin much better:]

And don't get sick, take care of your health!

Well if you want to kiss those asses, that's cool. LOL! Good man. End it on a light note. See you around.

Yep, see you on the blockchain, cheers.

FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY

It amazes me... i spent a few months away from here, and guess what... nothing ever change...

I don't know to to say because am speechless but trust me I am behind you.

> So like a good, obedient citizen, I joined their discord server to discuss the matter

I never bothered. Was pretty clear to me that Hive wasn't any better the Steem.