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neat good job

Thanks

You really nailed it here, @webcoop. Most times I really wish I was a developer. Steemit has really opened a wide business opportunity to designers and developers. I guess I need to learn these things. @greatness96

I wish I am too, would be nice if I know how to do this things programming and what not. I'm not sure what the deal with steemit.com if anyone can clone it for free and put in their own improvements, like an open source (if that is what they call it).

We have busy.or, zappl, steepshot and utopia and if those will become successful they could monetize it and become millionaires.

Are you high af right now?

Because I got high

Some nice piece of information !

Thanks

I'm gladful to you that you share huge of information that need every person life. Thanks @webcoop

You are welcome

Edit: I've thought about what I've written and while I still believe that huge amount of bought upvotes are somewhat irritating for the user to determine if that post has real value - the things I've wrote were too harsh. Let's create on something positive instead of being destructive!

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What the actual fuck? Have you taken a look at the github pages from steem(it), busy or utopian? If you would have, then you would have realised that there are a lot of people doing a lot of work to make 'your dream world' come true.

The funny thing is that the lack of actual value in your post and the amount of useless rumble of thoughts without a line isn't what pisses me off about your post.

What pisses me off is: the fact that you bought votes worth over 140$!

You blame steemitinc, busy and all the developers that they're not doing their job (which is not true) - and instead pump your post with an incredible amount of money - which truly has, in my opinion, a value of max. 5$.

How about you start looking at yourself and the post you've written, before you start putting the finger on others..

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You sir are a savage, and you have warranted a follow from me.

haha - appreciate that!

Aww you only like savages? How about me, a gentle, kind hearted soul.

Thank you for pointing this out. . .funny how you didn't receive a response.

Well, I wrote this in the first place as a statement. He prob. has a good reason why he did it - everbody has their reasons.

Ohh boy! :) Do you use some browser widget to know how much was the vote power of the users?

Good points! I guess the info about the votes should be presented at the beginning of the post, for more visibility.

A notice like saying

"I have used up-vote bots on this post to increase visibility only and not for any other reason"

Is that what you mean?

Yes, I was thinking that the author should make a notice he plans to use up-vote bots for his post. Also the devs, maybe could make the voting info available on the post preview, before the post is opened, here : [IMAGE: https://res.cloudinary.com/hpiynhbhq/image/upload/v1511523693/of2ux1afbr5tmurxxs9h.png]

If you see that it is up-voted, promoted or boosted by bots you probably say "not worth reading".

Always don't judge the book by its cover. I always look at the title of the post and if I see it is interesting I read it. I don't really look at the value of the votes made, because it could be upvoted by whales or bots which does not really have anything to do with the value of the post.

> Also the devs, maybe could make the voting info available on the post preview, before the post is opened, here :

That could be an update for "steemit more info" by @armandocat

>What pisses me off is: the fact that you bought votes worth over 140$!

Oh the hypocrisy, you are doing the same. You are buying votes as well, it just happen that I have more money put in there.

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By the way, are you not one of the minnowbooster bot creator? Well I am one of your best customer so you are actually making money from me.

The Wolf Voting Bot

Oh the hypocrisy continues on, are you not selling up-vote with your wolf voting bot (WVB)?
What is it? You are the judge, you will see if their content meets your expectation and you reject them based only on your opinion. Which you are not doing a good job because I saw one that pasted an image from website and basically wrote what was written on that image. You up-voted that post, or your bot did.

What’s your voting bot cost? If I put in 0.30$, I get an up-vote from your of 0.30$? Also when you up-vote you leave a comment asking them to up-vote your comment. Man you really are squeezing money from fellow minnows. This is why and all taken from your POST.

>If a 100% Vote from @therealwolf has a value of 0.30$ (real value on steemnow) then the cost will be 0.30$.

Minnow give you 0.30$ you up-vote that minnow for 0.30$, subtract the 25% (0.075$) for curators. How much left for that minnow? Only 0.225$

You know what the other sneaky thing about this? If @therealwolf up-vote himself with his 100% 0.30$ self up-vote, he will only get 0.225$ after the curation reward is taken off and the rest goes to his SP. But if he sell his up-vote he will pocket the whole 0.30$. Genius.

I know, I know not much difference but I guess getting that liquid 0.30$ from other minnows is better than up-voting himself.

Wait There Is More. His Vote Cash Back Scheme.

This is where he is asking you to vote for his comments.

>Example: Let's say your vote is worth 0.10$ and you vote on 10 different posts/comments from @therealwolf.
>
>0.10$ * 10 = 1$ / 0.3 => 0.33$
>
>Then you gain 0.33$ Balance which is enough for one whole up-vote.

If you follow the example above, how much you gain. You will gain 0.33$

How much will @therealwolf get? 1$ - 25% curation reward - 0.33$ (your gain) = 0.42$. He gets 0.42$

Okay let us say you get that 25% curation reward of 0.25$, so you have a total of 0.33$ + 0.25% = 0.58$ total.

You are probably saying it’s okay because this time @therealwolf is getting less than me.

That’s what you think. What if instead of up-voting his 10 comments and up-vote your own comments. How much will you get? You will get that 1$ wouldn’t you?

>the lack of actual value in your post and the amount of useless rumble of thoughts without a line isn't what pisses me off about your post.

>which truly has, in my opinion, a value of max. 5$.

That is your opinion. I have a looked at your blog and you are the same. In my opinion some of your post lack value and your useless rumbles.

You have bought yourself an up-goat worth of 7+$, which truly has, in my opinion, a value of max 1 cent.

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> You blame steemitinc, busy and all the developers that they're not doing their job (which is not true)

Oh no, did I blame them? Sorry steemitinc, busy and all the devs.

@therealwolf maybe if you so kindly highlight where I blamed them in my post because with all the useless rumbling on my post I lost myself.

> What the actual fuck? Have you taken a look at the github pages from steem(it), busy or utopian? If you would have, then you would have realised that there are a lot of people doing a lot of work to make 'your dream world' come true.

What the fuck is a github? Is that a new steemit platform or a steemit.com blog website where I can go and see updates or news regarding what is being done for steemit.com? Ohhhh sooo good I might go and visit the github. Can I put in my 2 cents in that website?

> How about you start looking at yourself and the post you've written, before you start putting the finger on others..

How about you start looking at yourself, the posts that you’ve written, the content of the posts that your bot has up-voted and your ways of getting money from minnows by selling your votes using your Wolf Voting Bot before you start pointing the finger at me or others.

Edit: I was too harsh. We shouldn't waste our time fighting. Let's rather try creating something positive. :)

Github is the space where developers work on different projects.

https://github.com/steemit/steem

and here all the projects that have to do with steem(it)
https://github.com/steemit

And yes - you're right. My posts in the beginning were pretty bad. The content my bot upvoted wasn't that great but I didn't have a lot of 'users' to choose from. However, the facts you based your math on are outdated and wolf's voting bot is deprecated (outdated). I used it as a way to work on a more serious project.

Now that I think of the issue with buying votes, should we as a community set up an account that burns all the steem used to buy upvote? Sent sbd could be used to buy Steem and burn. This would benefit the whole ecosystem rather than select few.

>Sent sbd could be used to buy Steem and burn. This would benefit the whole ecosystem rather than select few.

Could you please elaborate more on this, I am a bit slow in the steemit ecosystem.

How can burning all the steem used to buy up-votes benefit the ecosystem of the platform?

The overall supply of Steem would diminish, Steem would become more scarce and by doing so raising the value of every Steem in existence.

Essentially what people are doing by buying upvotes to get into trending page is what Steemit Inc should have provided by default, but now we have this promoted tab that no one visits making it useless.

What gives Bitcoin its value is that there will be only 21 million of them, ever. Steem has somewhat high inflation currently so little deflation won't hurt, it would rather pique the interest of investors.

If Steemit Inc isn't willing to fix the promoted feature, maybe we can do it together so everyone benefits. But I'm not sure if there's a way to burn Steem, anyone know if it's possible?

Maybe send the Steem you want to burn to an inactive whale. Wouldn't that be like burning it?

I can be inactive and you send Steem to me, sure :)

I'm sure you get the point. It needs to be 100% certain that the funds are gone. No trust required.

It's all good mate. I don't really take things to heart over here. We are all different people and we all have different opinions. So things like this I don't really call it fighting, maybe heated up discussions or discussions with a passion.

> I still believe that huge amount of bought upvotes are somewhat irritating for the user to determine if that post has real value

Dollar signs (pay out value) don't really have anything to do with the quality of the post or article that is posted because I could be a whale and upvoted myself for 50$ them my other whale friends and relatives who got me on their auto vote will also give me 50$ each. Then there are also these upvote bots.

So yeah in my opinion the posts that are on trending or hot don't mean it is all good quality articles.

Since you touched that subject and you are irritated with it. Maybe you can suggest something to me how to make this tactic of mine better.

Every time I have money for the steemit platform I go and buy steem or sbd at the exchange. I then transfer it to steemit.com.

Now instead of powering up all the steem in one go. I decided to use it to promote or boost my posts using upvote bots. I look at it as hitting 3 birds with one stone.

1. I am investing in steem (by buying steem at exchange)
2. I am using it to promote or boost my posts
3. I am helping out the guys who owns the bots minnowbooster, buildawhale, etc by using their bot

I believe in steem and the future of steemit.com that is why I am investing in it little by little as long as I have money to put in.

So yeah let me know if my way is harmful to the steemit.com and please tell me how. And please don't stop there, suggest something, something I could do better

I understand that. Again - I was too emotional. Should have taken a step back and looked at the situation - you're just trying to get you message out. And it's a flaw in the system that one can manipulate the trending page so much.

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I'm new to the community and really enjoying the platform! Hopefully we the Steemians all benefit!

Good job

Thanks

I think you are on to something?
So what are your thoughts on Facebook? Zombie world? 😋

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nice to learn with you guys , i hope it will work out :)

What will work out if I may ask?

The problem is that there are people abusing their voting power if they don't agree on contents. Get rid of flagging and steemit will be a better place.

It's a catch 22. If you remove flagging more spam will come out or plagiarism.

Well that sux

There's a whole internet out there you can work on. It doesn't have to be all on steemit. In fact, that proposition seems rather silly.
To a brand newcomer, this post tells me to run away. Thanks.

Which propsition is that if I may ask?

The proposition of working only on steemit. I want to be building my own websites, not just working on someone else's.

How come you haven't responded to @therealwolf ?

I have a good response but too long. Busy at the moment with work. I will be posting it later

I have replied

talk about that... this post savagely turn tides...
Good pointers @therealwolf

I have replied therealwolf. Have a read and join in with the discussion if you wish.

>this post savagely turn tides

In what way?

Today, as much as we knew tech era did well... then social media era took place and sky rocket everything... This platform turns tide in social media history... merging with the crypto-currency idea it became a wide array of possibilities thus changing lives.

Otherwise if not this is only like myspace and friendster that after few years of reigning it shuts down.

what it means anyway!!

which topic?

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The world is old.

not steemit world

Is amazing how at this point, this kind of tools exist and there are people trying to cheat. maybe steemit is the gate to new tools like this. but now the people should start learning how to use it..

Thanks for the post!

>Is amazing how at this point, this kind of tools exist and there are people trying to cheat

Cheat in what way?

>people should start learning how to use it

Maybe the have learnt how to use it well that is why they are using it.

@webcoop: Look no further for the potential of steemit than just see how this post itself has fared.

While you are extremely sceptical of the potential of steemit, you still earned $165 in rewards simply for sharing your insights here - which other platform wold provide such a reward system that makes it worthwhile to post your opinions and insights and as long as people find it valuable, gets rewarded? None really.

To put things in perspective, as a blogger and , I have posted great content over the years in various platforms - Blogspot, Wordpress, Facebook and none of them even earned me a penny! I've written countless 1500 - 2000 word articles educating people on various things, sharing ideas and knowledge on a host of topics and this one post has outearned my 12 years of earnings. Truly ironic, isn't it? :-)

Also, I often get annoyed by this whole "moon moon" thing - seems everybody on any cryptocurrency only wants the moon without sparing a though to see if that platform is constantly creating value and solving real world issues :) ... When currency/token simply rises for no reason, that creates a bubble.

Steem may not be shooting through to roof today, but it has a solid foundation in place - an ecosystem that makes it worthwhile for a user to participate in social media in actual monetary terms. When more projects are built on steem, and the potential keeps getting realised, the token value of Steeem dollars will appreciate.

I am one such user who is willing to wait and be just stay happy creating good value content and getting a readership till that happens. A platform like steem is invaluable for somebody like me who spent more than years creating original blog content and never got rewarded apart from gaining a handful of likes on facebook - Steem gives me the assurane that my time and energy accounts for something in the and and that's why I'm on it. :)

yes you nailed it there. The problem is this is mainly for bloggers. Bloggers who wants to make money for their blogs.

When a good quality post will only earn a few cents, a non blogger at heart will just quit because they will say spending few hours making a good quality article for a few cents is not worth it. That few hours spending creating blog could be spent somewhere else better.

That is the reason it is hard to get a wider audience because steemit is limited to only bloggers. We might just have to wait until a better version or another site that will actually create or implement a social media functionalities before we invite others.

But that don't mean we stop inviting other to steemit, we never know we might make them a better bloggers than they think they are.

About the investors, people do invest in steem and steemit due to it being the first to couple social media and cryptocurrency and we are looking at it as there is a future for it. It might not running as a bull right now but it might one day when more and more apps and website adapt to its structure and using steem.

https://steemit.com/steemit/@xsid/steemit-cured-my-social-media-funk

The more and more I think of it (and yes I have used them in the past), the more I despise upvote bots. I will not be using them anymore and didn't on my last post a few days ago.

Well they have given us these tools to use so let us use it for goodness not for evil.

We love Steemit and we hope for long live steemit

Good points! I guess the info about the votes should be presented at the beginning of the post, for more visibility.

Hi @Webcoop,

I'm @joshua-golbuu, or Josh for short and I just joined @TeamAustralia / #TeamAustralia a few week ago (I moved from the islands of Micronesia to Australia to study and live here).

I just wanted to drop a note to say hello.

As I'm new to Steemit, I don't really get how things work yet but I do appreciate your perspective on the Steemit world. Thank you for sharing.

I don't have many recent posts because I just finish my last exam on Friday, but I very much like to get to know everyone in our team. Hope we will meet on Steemit.

here is my re-intro with more details: https://steemit.com/teamaustralia/@joshua-golbuu/from-micronesia-to-australia-my-journey-re-introducing-myself-to-teamaustralia-and-to-everyone-in-steemit-after-my-exams

Peace ✌ & 💖 love!

Steemit is very good for earning and social connection. it is also knowledgeable too.